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OfflineAnthony917
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Re: Obama Plans On Slashing $4,000,000,000,000 Out Of The Budget [Re: Kinko]
    #14291124 - 04/14/11 04:21 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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because if we didn't have a solid military this country would not exist.
that's why defense is important. If you don't think that there is a correlation between our military strength and the greatness of this country then you are in fantasy land.



you are talking about the past , not present.
how is cutting the defense budget bad ? are you afraid of the taliban? or alqaida? you are 1,000x more likely to die from a car accident than any foreign regime.




read my posts and you will see that I am in favor of cutting SOME of the defense budget.

The fact remains, whether you like it or not, that we are the worlds police. We have the most massive military on earth and NO ONE will fuck with us because of it. And if they try, they will go down. That makes me feel safe, and I support our military 1293812093%

Again, I think there are DEFINITELY places that can be cut, but our defense is absolutely critical to our national security.



so you agree we should end the wars and bring our troops home?

how about germany and japan? im pretty sure hitler is dead yet we have 50,000 troops in germany.:borat:




This is common military practice to leave troops stationed in places that were once hostile (as germany & japan were).
I am in favor of NOT getting involved in Libya.

I wouldn't say it's as simple as just "bring our troops home!" you know? We need to have goals in place, and once those goals are accomplished, we need to leave. It is not our responsibility to set up governments all around the world. It is our responsibility to protect our national security, and if that security is not threatened we should take NO military action.

I believe that our national security WAS threatened in iraq/afghanistan, but it's been almost 10 years now, and we're still diddling around. I think we need a more clear and established military approach, with a set of defined goals, and once those goals are completed, we need to leave. :shrug:

I wouldn't just instantly recall all our troops though.


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Re: Obama Plans On Slashing $4,000,000,000,000 Out Of The Budget [Re: Anthony917]
    #14291134 - 04/14/11 04:23 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

You just said before that we are the military police of the world whether we like it or not.

This is incongruous with " It is not our responsibility to set up governments all around the world. It is our responsibility to protect our national security, and if that security is not threatened we should take NO military action."


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Re: Obama Plans On Slashing $4,000,000,000,000 Out Of The Budget [Re: propensity]
    #14291150 - 04/14/11 04:25 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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You just said before that we are the military police of the world whether we like it or not.

This is incongruous with " It is not our responsibility to set up governments all around the world. It is our responsibility to protect our national security, and if that security is not threatened we should take NO military action."




I never said that I liked the fact that we were the police of the world :shrug:
We are, but that doesn't mean I support all of our military action. I support the military, and I support the troops, but I don't necessarily support the people in charge.


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Re: Obama Plans On Slashing $4,000,000,000,000 Out Of The Budget [Re: Anthony917] * 1
    #14291183 - 04/14/11 04:30 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

We aren't the world police. And the longer we pretend to be, the more developing nations (parallel to developing humans, i.e. teenagers) will cry 'fuck tha police!!' - which will not stand to our advantage when they grow up and still have that hunch against the US.


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Re: Obama Plans On Slashing $4,000,000,000,000 Out Of The Budget [Re: twighead]
    #14291190 - 04/14/11 04:32 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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We aren't the world police. And the longer we pretend to be, the more developing nations (parallel to developing humans, i.e. teenagers) will cry 'fuck tha police!!' - which will not stand to our advantage when they grow up and still have that hunch against the US.




You don't think so? Why is it then that we get involved in nearly every single military fucking conflict on the planet?
WHY are we involved in libya spending millions of dollars? To police the world. or at least try to.
I don't support it, but we keep doing it.


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Re: Obama Plans On Slashing $4,000,000,000,000 Out Of The Budget [Re: Anthony917] * 1
    #14291212 - 04/14/11 04:36 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I said we pretend to be - but no one is. Its just a passing trend in US foreign policy - one that will end as quickly as it arose, either through wise choices made by the government, or more likely through staggering debt problems, increasing hostility against quasi-imperialist policies, and war.


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Re: Obama Plans On Slashing $4,000,000,000,000 Out Of The Budget [Re: Coaster]
    #14291439 - 04/14/11 05:16 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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he does

its repubs that wont let him





the repubs want to cut more from the budget than the dems but I guess you'd
have to start off having a clue what's going on instead of hearing a few
snippets from your favorite probama news agency


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Re: Obama Plans On Slashing $4,000,000,000,000 Out Of The Budget [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14291465 - 04/14/11 05:23 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

ya the repubs want to slash medicare obama wont let them
i dont even own a tv


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Re: Obama Plans On Slashing $4,000,000,000,000 Out Of The Budget [Re: Coaster] * 1
    #14291527 - 04/14/11 05:32 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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ya the repubs want to slash medicare obama wont let them
i dont even own a tv





maybe because it would expose that obama has already slashed medicare in his health insurance reform bill


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Re: Obama Plans On Slashing $4,000,000,000,000 Out Of The Budget [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14291529 - 04/14/11 05:32 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

thats what bipartisanship is
he didnt want to do that originally
not his idea


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Re: Obama Plans On Slashing $4,000,000,000,000 Out Of The Budget [Re: Coaster]
    #14291550 - 04/14/11 05:35 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

dont even try that, the bill sat on harry reid's desk with no one able to
read it, the refused input and objections from the right and kept adding
hundreds of pages of their own, that's not bipartisanship, that's democrats
holding the nation hostage... that's why so many tea party republicans hold
office now and why they're stirring the stink


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Re: Obama Plans On Slashing $4,000,000,000,000 Out Of The Budget [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14291557 - 04/14/11 05:36 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

"we have to pass this bill so we can know what's in it" -Nancy Pelosi on obamacare


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Re: Obama Plans On Slashing $4,000,000,000,000 Out Of The Budget [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14291650 - 04/14/11 05:54 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

thats what they do with everything!! - source fat pudgy micheal moore


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Re: Obama Plans On Slashing $4,000,000,000,000 Out Of The Budget [Re: Konyap]
    #14291729 - 04/14/11 06:06 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

The hairy mole in those whole bullshit fest is that the budget was due to be passed last year before the 2010 elections when the Dems controlled everything.  They could have done just about anything they wanted.  They have no case to claim they were thwarted in their aims.  But they wouldn't do it because they knew that they would be crucified even worse.  Cowards who lack the courage of their convictions.


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Re: Obama Plans On Slashing $4,000,000,000,000 Out Of The Budget [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14291766 - 04/14/11 06:15 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

What pris is saying regarding the recent medicare bills is quite correct.

IMO the entire Medicare bill was a band-aid on a broken leg.

Medicare is unfixable until a few aspects of our society are addressed first:

  • Too many people. Overpopulation makes any medicare system - public, private or mixed - totally impossible to implement successfully.

  • There are too many synthetic medications which could, for cheaper, be replaced by naturally grown alternatives (For example: Ibproefun is just a more powerful, but also more toxic, version of a chemical found in willow tree bark). If society realizes this less stress will be put on the medical system and its own resources can be put towards more necessary endeavors. I have nothing against synthetic chemicals... but no-one can deny that not everyone is a household chemist. Being able to grow/produce one's own medications for simple ailments (minor aches and pains, mostly) is a huge way to lessen the burden by which an amassed medical system must operate.

  • Most people's diets and the food that is most abundant for purchase are total crap. Until people's diets and personal maintenance improves, the strain on any medicare system is being stressed far more than it should be.


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Re: Obama Plans On Slashing $4,000,000,000,000 Out Of The Budget [Re: Remix]
    #14291785 - 04/14/11 06:17 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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IMO the entire Medicare bill was a band-aid on a broken leg.






broken leg dont need a bandaid, just walk it off, you'll be fine!


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Re: Obama Plans On Slashing $4,000,000,000,000 Out Of The Budget [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14291813 - 04/14/11 06:22 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Obama Plans On Slashing $4,000,000,000,000 Out Of The Budget [Re: Remix]
    #14291992 - 04/14/11 07:06 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Remix said:
What pris is saying regarding the recent medicare bills is quite correct.

IMO the entire Medicare bill was a band-aid on a broken leg.

Medicare is unfixable until a few aspects of our society are addressed first:

  • Too many people. Overpopulation makes any medicare system - public, private or mixed - totally impossible to implement successfully.

  • There are too many synthetic medications which could, for cheaper, be replaced by naturally grown alternatives (For example: Ibproefun is just a more powerful, but also more toxic, version of a chemical found in willow tree bark). If society realizes this less stress will be put on the medical system and its own resources can be put towards more necessary endeavors. I have nothing against synthetic chemicals... but no-one can deny that not everyone is a household chemist. Being able to grow/produce one's own medications for simple ailments (minor aches and pains, mostly) is a huge way to lessen the burden by which an amassed medical system must operate.

  • Most people's diets and the food that is most abundant for purchase are total crap. Until people's diets and personal maintenance improves, the strain on any medicare system is being stressed far more than it should be.






seriously, if people just did basic things, they would be healthy.

People WILL eat themselves to death. My mom and dad were family doctors in the mountains-those people will by and large will rather die than change. The people around here complain about the price of diabetic medication, and their carts in the food market are filled with ice cream and cookies/cakes.

That person, just doesn't effect themselves, no no. Financially they burden you, and when they die from a heart attack-you best hope they are not in the oncoming lane in traffic.


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Re: Obama Plans On Slashing $4,000,000,000,000 Out Of The Budget [Re: Lennyk]
    #14292074 - 04/14/11 07:22 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

10x more then ciggerette smokers its true


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