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c0sm0nautt
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Wrap your mind around this
#14287437 - 04/13/11 11:07 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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In 30 years (or less) your life will be alien to what it is now. Computers are doubling in speed every 2 years. Eventually we will become symbiotic with artificial intelligence. A homeless kid in Africa, with a smart phone, has access to more information now than the CIA did in this early 90s. I could go on but you get the point. Where is this all taking us? Are we too caught up in daily trivialities to really take in the degree and speed in which our existence is changing? I know I sure am.
This interview was pretty cool: http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/381488/april-12-2011/ray-kurzweil I look forward to the documentary when it comes out.
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Re: Wrap your mind around this [Re: c0sm0nautt]
#14287624 - 04/13/11 11:38 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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What an awesome Colbert report! That documentary sounds quiet interesting.
This report reminds me of some ideas spoken by Terence McKenna.
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Re: Wrap your mind around this [Re: 2bakednate]
#14287680 - 04/13/11 11:51 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I think about this every day, have been since before being connected to the net was common. It's a bigger change than the printing press and the automobile, but will be more positive than either.
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Re: Wrap your mind around this [Re: Doc_T]
#14287799 - 04/14/11 12:28 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I saw this last night on the Colbert Show. My buddy and I were watching it and both of thought that it was pretty weird. I remember this guy talked about living forever by being able to upload our brains into these super computers and keep downloading new information. At that point my friend and I just looked at each other said that if that were to ever happen, we'd want to shoot ourselves. I personally wouldn't want that.
On top of that, I wouldn't want nano computers crawling around inside of me like he mentioned. Seems so... inhumane.
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Re: Wrap your mind around this [Re: r72rock]
#14289536 - 04/14/11 11:30 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Soon everyone interested in new experience will be sucked into the virtual world to dance in its limbo for god knows how long. Then the streets will be empty and I can finally practice my singing everywhere.
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Re: Wrap your mind around this [Re: Tony]
#14289803 - 04/14/11 12:24 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: Wrap your mind around this [Re: r72rock]
#14289916 - 04/14/11 12:48 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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r72rock said: I saw this last night on the Colbert Show. My buddy and I were watching it and both of thought that it was pretty weird. I remember this guy talked about living forever by being able to upload our brains into these super computers and keep downloading new information. At that point my friend and I just looked at each other said that if that were to ever happen, we'd want to shoot ourselves. I personally wouldn't want that.
On top of that, I wouldn't want nano computers crawling around inside of me like he mentioned. Seems so... inhumane.
Sounds like Ray Kurzweil. He's an intelligent guy, pretty much invented AI, invented text-to-speech converter, print to speech converter, and is a firm proponent of the singularity. He's got a few technology/philosophy books about where we draw the lines between man and machine, and how this line will shift as humans start getting neural implants, auditory implant, etc. to enhance our sense of the world. Nano bots performing nano surgery on our nano tissues, keeping us health and alive forever.
Living forever won't solve anything, IMO. People will still be as unfulfilled after a thousand years as they are after eighty. Virtual sex is a dope idea, however.
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Re: Wrap your mind around this [Re: c0sm0nautt]
#14290922 - 04/14/11 03:52 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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c0sm0nautt said: In 30 years (or less) your life will be alien to what it is now. Computers are doubling in speed every 2 years. Eventually we will become symbiotic with artificial intelligence. A homeless kid in Africa, with a smart phone, has access to more information now than the CIA did in this early 90s. I could go on but you get the point. Where is this all taking us? Are we too caught up in daily trivialities to really take in the degree and speed in which our existence is changing? I know I sure am.
Basically you are right. But the part I disagree with is that we will become A.I. symbiont... Stuff is changing but I know for sure that I wont take implants and stuff to connect my brain with wires and stuff... Im going back to nature, whatever future may hold.
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Re: Wrap your mind around this [Re: ivander]
#14291228 - 04/14/11 04:38 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Being symbiotic with AI doesn't necessarily mean cybernetics. We are basically symbiotic with technology now the way we rely on the internet and telecommunications for well, everything.
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Re: Wrap your mind around this [Re: c0sm0nautt]
#14291612 - 04/14/11 05:47 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I get you.. but you really cant grow your own stuff via internet.. not yet at least
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Re: Wrap your mind around this [Re: c0sm0nautt]
#14291685 - 04/14/11 05:59 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I was reading his Wikipedia page... pretty interesting dude.
I found this to be cool:
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Kurzweil has forecast a number of notable specific technological advances with specific dates in his books:
* before 2050 medical advances will allow people to radically extend their lifespans while preserving quality of life through the use of nanobots[3][33]. * a computer will pass the Turing test by 2029. * the first strong artificial intelligence will be a computer simulation of a human brain generated by nanorobotic brain scanning. * sentient artificial intelligences will exhibit moral thinking and respect humans * the line between humans and machines will blur as machines attain human-level intelligence and humans start incorporating more technology
And this I just found funny:
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Kurzweil ingests "250 supplements, eight to 10 glasses of alkaline water and 10 cups of green tea" every day and drinks several glasses of red wine a week in an effort to "reprogram" his biochemistry.[44] Lately, he has cut down the number of supplement pills to 150.
Haha, 250? That's like a full breakfast right there.
His entire page is interesting though, I actually hope to see his new movie now. This thread changed my view heh.
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Re: Wrap your mind around this [Re: c0sm0nautt]
#14292659 - 04/14/11 09:06 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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c0sm0nautt said: In 30 years (or less) your life will be alien to what it is now. Computers are doubling in speed every 2 years. Eventually we will become symbiotic with artificial intelligence. A homeless kid in Africa, with a smart phone, has access to more information now than the CIA did in this early 90s. I could go on but you get the point. Where is this all taking us? Are we too caught up in daily trivialities to really take in the degree and speed in which our existence is changing? I know I sure am.
This interview was pretty cool: http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/381488/april-12-2011/ray-kurzweil I look forward to the documentary when it comes out.
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Re: Wrap your mind around this [Re: c0sm0nautt]
#14292701 - 04/14/11 09:12 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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We might get blasted back to the dark ages bye then
I'm actually kind of in favor of that idea.
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c0sm0nautt said: A homeless kid in Africa, with a smart phone, has access to more information now than the CIA did in this early 90s.
How's a homeless african afford/ even find a smartphone? and why would he have it? I suppose he can't really use most of this info if he is illiterate, which i believe most africans are. lol
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Re: Wrap your mind around this [Re: Toe_Jam]
#14293060 - 04/14/11 10:17 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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E-in Liondragon said:
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c0sm0nautt said: A homeless kid in Africa, with a smart phone, has access to more information now than the CIA did in this early 90s.
How's a homeless african afford/ even find a smartphone? and why would he have it? I suppose he can't really use most of this info if he is illiterate, which i believe most africans are. lol
The technology is getting cheaper, i.e, the 100 dollar computer. The idea is that a human being with access to the internet has access to all of the information in the world, which is a relatively new thing.
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Re: Wrap your mind around this [Re: Toe_Jam]
#14294387 - 04/15/11 07:18 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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E-in Liondragon said:if he is illiterate, which i believe most africans are. lol
You are very, very wrong, but by all means, continue to preface easily verified falsehoods with "I believe."
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Re: Wrap your mind around this [Re: Lion]
#14294409 - 04/15/11 07:30 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I was joking, deep breath.
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Re: Wrap your mind around this [Re: Toe_Jam]
#14294421 - 04/15/11 07:36 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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But jokes are funny.
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Re: Wrap your mind around this [Re: Lion]
#14294441 - 04/15/11 07:48 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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yeah, it was funny, if you have a sense of humor.
And really, I'm sure you are right. All those bushpeople, child soldiers, and at war countries definitely advocate literacy. I'm sure tons of those people send their children down mined roads to school.
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Re: Wrap your mind around this [Re: Toe_Jam]
#14294765 - 04/15/11 09:42 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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If you look at the literacy rates of African countries, the vast majority are over 50% literacy. Even the war torn Congo is near 70% literacy. The worst it gets its around 25-30%. Literacy rates have substantially increased over the past decades and there is no reason to think that the introduction of cheap technology wouldn't make it sky rocket further. The technology itself would contain the learning tools to use the technology. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_literacy_rate
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Re: Wrap your mind around this [Re: Toe_Jam]
#14295123 - 04/15/11 11:30 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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E-in Liondragon said: yeah, it was funny, if you have a sense of humor.
And really, I'm sure you are right. All those bushpeople, child soldiers, and at war countries definitely advocate literacy. I'm sure tons of those people send their children down mined roads to school.
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