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Re: Nationalsozialismus [Re: ChuangTzu]
    #14321886 - 04/20/11 08:12 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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What ever happened to the OP...




Anna's avatar scared him away.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: Nationalsozialismus [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #14322334 - 04/20/11 10:21 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I find it exciting but I'm kinda jaded.  A little danger is stimulating.  :grin:


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Re: Nationalsozialismus [Re: johnm214]
    #14339066 - 04/23/11 03:34 PM (13 years, 29 days ago)

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Re: Nationalsozialismus [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #14339430 - 04/23/11 04:44 PM (13 years, 29 days ago)

Yeah you stated it in your first post.  It was ignorant and misleading.  You cite their hatred for communists but that was just a power struggle between two groups with similar statist ideologies.  You also cited their desire, falsely attributed as right wing, to subjugate the third world.  There is nothing right wing about that nor do you bother to mention that they were trying to subjugate the entire world, not just the third world.

Just because you spouted a bunch of afactual nonsense earlier in a thread doesn't make it any less nonsensical.


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Re: Nationalsozialismus [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14339716 - 04/23/11 05:38 PM (13 years, 29 days ago)

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Re: Nationalsozialismus [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #14339820 - 04/23/11 05:59 PM (13 years, 29 days ago)

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What's ignorant & misleading is your scale of left = statist & right = anti-statist since this would mean the religious right in U.S. are very much radical leftists, & 19th century Russian anarchists were right-wing extremists, as i already expounded upon.




You have expounded on much shit at some length.  It remains shit.  What specifically do you find "statist" about the religious right?  That they oppose abortion?  Do you think it is statist to prosecute murderers?  And only a blithering idiot would conflate anarchy with the limited government positions taken by the right in this country and elsewhere.  Though they are certainly anti state their positions have not one damn thing to do with the responsible proponents of limited government.  To propose otherwise is idiotic.  Also irrelevant to a discussion of whether nazism is anti-state because the Nazis were at odds with the Communists.
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The one (notable) person who would exemplify the above scale, Murray Rothbard, you called "scum," I believe.



I don't recall labeling Rothbard as scum.  You might have him confused with Lew Rockwell.  Who is scum.


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Re: Nationalsozialismus [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14339923 - 04/23/11 06:24 PM (13 years, 29 days ago)

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Re: Nationalsozialismus [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #14340105 - 04/23/11 07:11 PM (13 years, 29 days ago)

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Che Guevara... piece of shit... and Murray Rothbard is almost equally scummy.







OK.  I have no use for anarchists.
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P.S. I listed more much than abortion (although they even want the morning after pill banned.)




Regarding the religious right?  I didn't see any list.  And their view of the morning after pill is that it is abortion, which is not incorrect.  I'm going to ask again, what do you find particularly statist about the religious right?  That they believe in law to protect innocents?  The only alternative to socialism/communism is NOT anarchy.  It is limited government.  Not nonexistent government.


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Re: Nationalsozialismus [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14342850 - 04/24/11 10:14 AM (13 years, 28 days ago)

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Re: Nationalsozialismus [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #14342993 - 04/24/11 10:54 AM (13 years, 28 days ago)

I don't want to control the behavior of people when both parties consent.  Build another straw man, pumpkin.

The morning after pill is abortive
Hardly any religious want alcohol prohibition
drug prohibition has wide support, not just by the religious right
Not recognizing civil unions is not prohibiting homosexual behavior.
Andrea Dwoerkin would prohibit porno, too, and she is not of the religious right
There is almost no one left in the religious right who would forbid miscegenation.  It is a fringe position. 



Fred Phelps is no more representative of the religious right than Pol Pot is of Upper East Side limousine liberals but you keep living your bigoted lie.

That wasn't my post and yes, there is appropriate forms of government control.  Anarchists are retards.


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Re: Nationalsozialismus [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14344059 - 04/24/11 03:49 PM (13 years, 28 days ago)

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Re: Nationalsozialismus [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #14344602 - 04/24/11 05:46 PM (13 years, 28 days ago)

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I don't care about your position; I said the religious right, unless you consider yourself to be among them.

No, hard-line prohibition policies are supported much more by ppl who call themselves conservative than liberal.

There are

Morning after pill is not necessary "abortion." In the circumstances that it is, I don't even think the first mitotic division has occurred in the window that the pill is supposedly effective; thus we are talking about a single cell.

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/morning-after-pill/MY01190

As for interracial relationships, a poll came out fairly recently that I think said a majority of (white) ppl in the South have a favorable view of the Confederacy... thus the period of antebellum & the Jim Crow era that followed trying to retain its apartheid structures, of which a ban on "race mixing" was one of them.

Lastly, you said in a previous post on Nazi ideology that white supremacist doctrine wasn't necessarily based on a right-wing worldview. If so, name some left-wing white supremacist groups (i.e. some white supremacist groups that talk about things like the international working class solidarity & anti-war coalitions.)





That poll was suspect but I don't really care.  It wasn't the religious right that shot down same sex marriage in California.  I said nothing about supremacist groups. 

The hard line left are the ones who want to regulate the food you can eat, not the religious right.  They also have no interest in ending drug prohibition (I don't give two shits about separating pot out.  All or none or you are a phony.)

Regarding abortion and the morning after pill if you believe human life begins at conception then the morning after pill is abortion.  I don't agree with it but I understand it.  Any other position is arbitrary.  Which is fine.  It is just important to understand that it is arbitrary.  Blackmun based his legislation on medical technology of the time, i.e. that 6 months was pretty much the age of viability.  Medicine has progressed since.  Does that mean we should push the age of the fetus back before we can whack it? 

Do not for one second believe that I harbor the same beliefs as the religious right.  I do not.  But I find them to be more honest and consistent than anything on the left


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Re: Nationalsozialismus [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14344815 - 04/24/11 06:35 PM (13 years, 28 days ago)

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Re: Nationalsozialismus [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #14348180 - 04/25/11 09:33 AM (13 years, 27 days ago)

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Reason for the poll was that a week or two ago marked 150th anniversary of first shots that began the Civil War. Poll shows 1 in 4 Americans sympathize more w/confederacy than Union. In the South the % was closer to 40. Since I doubt too many blacks were among that 40%, based on demographics, that would I imagine mean something like 55-60% of white Southerners have more affection for the Confederacy & its cause than the Union & its cause.

http://sonsofconfederateveterans.blogspot.com/2011/04/war-for-southern-independence.html
Not exactly a liberal site that doesn't have a problem accepting the validity of the poll.

Regulating food eaten? How's that worse than taking money from healthier states (i.e. blue states), sending it to Washington D.C., & then shipping it out to cover healthcare costs in less healthy states (i.e. red states, especially in the South.) On average blue states overwhelmingly pay in much more to D.C. than they get back, while red states (again, especially in the South) overwhelmingly receive much more than they pay in. Who's the lazy, deadbeat, "socialist" welfare recipients now?



As a conservative in a blue state, NY, I find it disgusting that my representatives fuck me at every turn.  Whose fault is that?  My stupid fucking liberal neighbors.  The idiot bums and limousine liberal enablers who keep voting for Federal office liberals have no idea that if the federal government didn't fuck NY so much to help Mississippi the state government might be able to extract more money to help NYers who suck.  (That isn't really true, I know.  If NY raised its state taxes even more we would have the Tennessee Stock Exchange.)

By the way, do you know why NY manages to pay so much in taxes when upstate NY and much of NYC looks almost exactly like the poor South?  Financial industry.  Those fucking demon scum.[end sarc]


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