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JOE MOLLOY FOR PRESIDENT 2012!!!!!!!
    #14286155 - 04/13/11 07:43 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

"I suffer no fools, cut through the bullshit, and say what I feel.  My brutal, sarcastic, and heartfelt honesty offends many.  Fuck it."- Molloy


Behold the words of our future leader. The kinda guy we all have been waiting for.

JOE MOLLOY FOR PRESIDENT 2012!!!!!!
JOE MOLLOY FOR PRESIDENT 2012!!!!!!
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JOE MOLLOY FOR PRESIDENT 2012!!!!!!

You got my vote Joe.


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Re: JOE MOLLOY FOR PRESIDENT 2012!!!!!!! [Re: CounterCulturest]
    #14286206 - 04/13/11 07:49 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

great another mindless thread


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Re: JOE MOLLOY FOR PRESIDENT 2012!!!!!!! [Re: CounterCulturest]
    #14286222 - 04/13/11 07:51 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I made a thread about him. Dudes pretty popular love him or hate him.
He still offends me slightly at times. But Id be a liar if I said he hasn't reminded me to stay grounded despite what I go through on trips.

Some people seriously need it lol.


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Re: JOE MOLLOY FOR PRESIDENT 2012!!!!!!! [Re: AbstraKt_I_Am]
    #14286304 - 04/13/11 08:03 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: JOE MOLLOY FOR PRESIDENT 2012!!!!!!! [Re: waves]
    #14286337 - 04/13/11 08:07 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

The bullshit that Joe Molloy so courageously cuts down was put up by someone who cared about the meanings it may have held. I would just be happier if he gave his experiences in a tone that didn't have to offend someone.

There's a difference between your opinion offending someone and you offending someone.


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Re: JOE MOLLOY FOR PRESIDENT 2012!!!!!!! [Re: waves]
    #14286367 - 04/13/11 08:11 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Yea, I hated this guy for a little bit, but decided to look at his other posts to make sure I wasn't jumping to conclusions. I actually respected him a bit more after that. I don't like the way he responds to some people who gather a lot from trips, but like you said, he certainly tries to keep people grounded.

^^ Like this guy says, he really could say things in a more respecting fashion


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Re: JOE MOLLOY FOR PRESIDENT 2012!!!!!!! [Re: CounterCulturest] * 1
    #14286445 - 04/13/11 08:25 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Hell, I'd vote for him FOR REAL!  He speaks with brutal honesty.  You gotta admit, you would at least know where the guy stands on any given issue.

Compare that with the folks who allegedly "represent" you...they're all lying, deceitful, self-interested bastards who disguise their positions and say only what any given group they're addressing wants to hear.

Fuck that!  Give me JoeMalloy any day!  He says what he thinks, and his opinion and position can be held up to scrutiny and debated on the merits.  Only through THAT process can any sensible, representative policy result.

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Re: JOE MOLLOY FOR PRESIDENT 2012!!!!!!! [Re: Nature Boy]
    #14286491 - 04/13/11 08:32 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Nature Boy said:
Hell, I'd vote for him FOR REAL!  He speaks with brutal honesty.  You gotta admit, you would at least know where the guy stands on any given issue.

Compare that with the folks who allegedly "represent" you...they're all lying, deceitful, self-interested bastards who disguise their positions and say only what any given group they're addressing wants to hear.

Fuck that!  Give me JoeMalloy any day!  He says what he thinks, and his opinion and position can be held up to scrutiny and debated on the merits.  Only through THAT process can any sensible, representative policy result.

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^^^ This is what I'm talking about. SUBSTANCE. Substance is only 1 of the many tools Joe has to offer.


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Re: JOE MOLLOY FOR PRESIDENT 2012!!!!!!! [Re: Nature Boy]
    #14286548 - 04/13/11 08:44 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Nature Boy said:
Hell, I'd vote for him FOR REAL!  He speaks with brutal honesty.  You gotta admit, you would at least know where the guy stands on any given issue.

Compare that with the folks who allegedly "represent" you...they're all lying, deceitful, self-interested bastards who disguise their positions and say only what any given group they're addressing wants to hear.

Fuck that!  Give me JoeMalloy any day!  He says what he thinks, and his opinion and position can be held up to scrutiny and debated on the merits.  Only through THAT process can any sensible, representative policy result.

N.B.




Are we talking about for office? Then fuck yeah I'd vote for Joe. I'd kill to see somebody kick every senator in the face with the message "FUCK THIS BILL, GO GO DEMOCRACY!" or something.


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Re: JOE MOLLOY FOR PRESIDENT 2012!!!!!!! [Re: CounterCulturest]
    #14286558 - 04/13/11 08:45 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Joe makes interesting posts I have no problem with him, the only thing I'm confused about is how he can say "The (DMT) experience is powerful and awesome" but at the same time his title displayed on every post he makes is "DMT is bullshit." I've asked to have that explained but have never got an answer so he remains questionable in how serious I can take his posts.


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Re: JOE MOLLOY FOR PRESIDENT 2012!!!!!!! [Re: CounterCulturest]
    #14286575 - 04/13/11 08:49 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Not to push the analogy too far...but drugs can lie to you just as readily as a politician, or (not to put too fine a point on it) WE lie to ourselves about our drug use, motivations, and perhaps exaggerate their benefits in a misguided attempt at controverting thirty plus years of negative drug propaganda...so having someone "call bullshit" is often a healthy reality check.

I love the guy for having put a cap on the bullshit we sell ourselves.  After all, we ARE a group of like-minded individuals prone to enable and support our behavior.  And like any enthusiastic "club" we can lose our objectivity a bit in favor of our common interest.  JoeMalloy has done more than ANYONE on this forum to prevent us from getting too full of ourselves.

That takes incredible courage, and, if I am not mistaken, JM is motivated by his sincere belief that any extreme view on the value inherent in psychedelic use, may prove unhealthy.  The "middle way" as Buddha says, is the TRUE path.

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Re: JOE MOLLOY FOR PRESIDENT 2012!!!!!!! [Re: Nature Boy]
    #14286611 - 04/13/11 08:54 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

It just dawned on me why I dig Molloy. He reminds me ALOT of Adam Carolla. Carolla is the Loveline legend/mesiah among men (for those who don't know). He is straight to the point but keeps it dirty. I'm sure his whole "dmt is bullshit" rant might just be comparing it to the epic trips and revelations he reads about. I'm sure he digs dmt but not so much the pedistal it gets put on around here. At least that's what I gather.


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Re: JOE MOLLOY FOR PRESIDENT 2012!!!!!!! [Re: muistrue]
    #14286629 - 04/13/11 08:57 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Joe makes interesting posts I have no problem with him, the only thing I'm confused about is how he can say "The (DMT) experience is powerful and awesome" but at the same time his title displayed on every post he makes is "DMT is bullshit." I've asked to have that explained but have never got an answer so he remains questionable in how serious I can take his posts.




I don't find that statement confusing or internally inconsistent at all!  DMT IS a powerful and awesome experience.  So is a HUGE roller-coaster or parachute jumping.  But there are things that DMT is NOT that people claim it is by the simple virtue of its power and awesomeness...  It is not "the answer" some people seek through powerful psychedelics.

I don't mean to speak for him...but that is my take on his position.

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Re: JOE MOLLOY FOR PRESIDENT 2012!!!!!!! [Re: Nature Boy]
    #14286663 - 04/13/11 09:03 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I don't find that statement confusing or internally inconsistent at all!  DMT IS a powerful and awesome experience.  So is a HUGE roller-coaster or parachute jumping.  But there are things that DMT is NOT that people claim it is by the simple virtue of its power and awesomeness...  It is not "the answer" some people seek through powerful psychedelics.

I don't mean to speak for him...but that is my take on his position.

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Still not understanding how DMT is bullshit. Maybe he'll enlighten me but it hasn't happened yet so I doubt it.


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Re: JOE MOLLOY FOR PRESIDENT 2012!!!!!!! [Re: muistrue]
    #14286680 - 04/13/11 09:05 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

He can be the grounding link without being so harsh. Give your opinion, yes, but we're all equal in the scope of things. Just talk to each other in civilized manners, please! :peace::heart: and all that :hippie::glittershitz:


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Re: JOE MOLLOY FOR PRESIDENT 2012!!!!!!! [Re: Nature Boy]
    #14286690 - 04/13/11 09:06 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Hell, I'd vote for him FOR REAL!  He speaks with brutal honesty.  You gotta admit, you would at least know where the guy stands on any given issue.

Compare that with the folks who allegedly "represent" you...they're all lying, deceitful, self-interested bastards who disguise their positions and say only what any given group they're addressing wants to hear.

Fuck that!  Give me JoeMalloy any day!  He says what he thinks, and his opinion and position can be held up to scrutiny and debated on the merits.  Only through THAT process can any sensible, representative policy result.

N.B.




My nation is not a place where people like joemolloy, nature boy and myself are not in abundance, but somehow we lost control over the sociopathic megalomaniacs (both human and corporate) who wish to use our planet and all the animals and plants on it to gain control over something as petty as national and international politics.


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Re: JOE MOLLOY FOR PRESIDENT 2012!!!!!!! [Re: healing]
    #14286763 - 04/13/11 09:18 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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My nation is not a place where people like joemolloy, nature boy and myself are not in abundance, but somehow we lost control over the sociopathic megalomaniacs (both human and corporate) who wish to use our planet and all the animals and plants on it to gain control over something as petty as national and international politics.




Not sure when, but my government stopped speaking for me a long time ago.  Make no mistake, I love my country, but I fear and distrust my government, and I object to my tax dollars being spent on the instrumentalities of WAR and global environmental rape and destruction.

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Re: JOE MOLLOY FOR PRESIDENT 2012!!!!!!! [Re: Nature Boy]
    #14293455 - 04/14/11 11:45 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Joe makes interesting posts I have no problem with him, the only thing I'm confused about is how he can say "The (DMT) experience is powerful and awesome" but at the same time his title displayed on every post he makes is "DMT is bullshit." I've asked to have that explained but have never got an answer so he remains questionable in how serious I can take his posts.




I don't find that statement confusing or internally inconsistent at all!  DMT IS a powerful and awesome experience.  So is a HUGE roller-coaster or parachute jumping.  But there are things that DMT is NOT that people claim it is by the simple virtue of its power and awesomeness...  It is not "the answer" some people seek through powerful psychedelics.

I don't mean to speak for him...but that is my take on his position.

N.B.




NB, you do a better job of explaining the Bullshit slogan than me.

You and I have had a similarly long history with DMT and you get it.  You identify and understand my feelings about this drug because we've been to the same mindscapes on it and obviously have many of the same coping, analytical, and thinking patterns as me.  I know you don't wish to totally discount this drug as bullshit, but there's a place in you that appreciates and understands where I am coming from.  You are able to step away from the powerful experience and look at it skeptically.  That's a tall order.  And it seems to disempower the drug, to defuse it, to show it as the lame old man behind the curtain in Oz.  It's really strange this drug, it can be anything you want it to be and that's part of its power over people.

Fuck it, call its bluff and then smoke it.  It becomes a tinfoil experience, a chintzy moment, cheap.  I guess that's when I lost the respect for it.  And then I looked at how obsessed I had become with it, how it profoundly changed me into a superstitious zealot who believed he was close to solving the secrets.  Oh, so close, making progress by leaps and bounds, just one more trip.  Ha!  A fucking slave to it, the slave who thought he was free.  The slave whose mind was opened so wide that any old twisted thought took a prominent seat.  And the smarter and more intellectual you are, the deeper you get pulled in.  The better the excuses you can make to keep delusions and the lies going.  You're so damn smart, you fool yourself. 

Anyway, most casual psychedelic users won't get to this point but I bet many who frequent these forums are currently in different phases of that mindfuck maze.

Be well and call the bluff on these drugs.  You'll probably enjoy them more and it'll do less psychological damage to you.  Or better yet just quit them.  Now that's a tall order.


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Re: JOE MOLLOY FOR PRESIDENT 2012!!!!!!! [Re: joemolloy]
    #14293528 - 04/15/11 12:06 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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NB, you do a better job of explaining the Bullshit slogan than me.

You and I have had a similarly long history with DMT and you get it.  You identify and understand my feelings about this drug because we've been to the same mindscapes on it and obviously have many of the same coping, analytical, and thinking patterns as me.  I know you don't wish to totally discount this drug as bullshit, but there's a place in you that appreciates and understands where I am coming from.  You are able to step away from the powerful experience and look at it skeptically.  That's a tall order.  And it seems to disempower the drug, to defuse it, to show it as the lame old man behind the curtain in Oz.  It's really strange this drug, it can be anything you want it to be and that's part of its power over people.

Fuck it, call its bluff and then smoke it.  It becomes a tinfoil experience, a chintzy moment, cheap.  I guess that's when I lost the respect for it.  And then I looked at how obsessed I had become with it, how it profoundly changed me into a superstitious zealot who believed he was close to solving the secrets.  Oh, so close, making progress by leaps and bounds, just one more trip.  Ha!  A fucking slave to it, the slave who thought he was free.  The slave whose mind was opened so wide that any old twisted thought took a prominent seat.  And the smarter and more intellectual you are, the deeper you get pulled in.  The better the excuses you can make to keep delusions and the lies going.  You're so damn smart, you fool yourself. 

Anyway, most casual psychedelic users won't get to this point but I bet many who frequent these forums are currently in different phases of that mindfuck maze.

Be well and call the bluff on these drugs.  You'll probably enjoy them more and it'll do less psychological damage to you.  Or better yet just quit them.  Now that's a tall order.





I can kind of understand where you are coming from. You can never forget that psychedelics are just drugs.

I used to feel like eventually I was going to have this trip that was going to change me forever and turn me into this ideal version of myself. It took me a while to realize that no matter how much I take, or how often I trip, this wasn't ever going to happen. You have to make the change happen, the drugs are never going to do it for you. Sounds obvious, but it really took me a long time to really realize that.

So I will be the first to admit that one of the main reasons I use them is because I looooove to get high. Personally, I don't think there is anything wrong with that.  They make me happy. I don't need any more reason than that.

More times than not psychedelics also leave me feeling refreshed. They make me want to be a better person, and work harder to be the productive, positive person I want to be. Between that and making me happy and high as hell, that is really all the reason I need.


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Re: JOE MOLLOY FOR PRESIDENT 2012!!!!!!! [Re: waves]
    #14293559 - 04/15/11 12:17 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

That's one of the healthiest outlooks on psychedelics that I've read in a long time.  What clean, crystal clear fucking thinking.


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