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OfflineCynosure
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Re: The User? Or the Substance? [Re: joemolloy]
    #14282981 - 04/13/11 09:58 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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joemolloy said:
I suffer no fools, cut through the bullshit, and say what I feel.  My brutal, sarcastic, and heartfelt honesty offends many.  Fuck it.




:laugh2:

....:lol:


Anyways, I agree that the responsibility is indeed in the hands of the user.

I feel that we can almost blame our culture/media/what-have-you for depicting to the public that these drugs do in fact make you lose control.  I've seen many people lose control on drugs (even with small amounts of alcohol, or a few hits  of shisha) in a way that makes it seem as if they were expecting these sort of effects (usually losing control, but manifest themselves in exaggerating the effects) and forced it upon themselves.  I've seen these types of actions done out of the strive for attention, rebellion, and just plain ignorance. 
..but when it comes down to it, I still feel it is, 100%, the user's fault.


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Re: The User? Or the Substance? [Re: Cynosure]
    #14285769 - 04/13/11 06:45 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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"I suffer no fools, cut through the bullshit, and say what I feel.  My brutal, sarcastic, and heartfelt honesty offends many.  Fuck it."

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Re: The User? Or the Substance? [Re: CounterCulturest]
    #14285851 - 04/13/11 06:57 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)



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Re: The User? Or the Substance? [Re: Scudreloaded]
    #14293068 - 04/14/11 10:19 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Scudreloaded said:
i want to say its the user..
you bought the ticket....
you got on the bus...
the bus went for a ride....

your the one trying to kill the bus driver, not the bus itself...

but alot of drugs are more prone to generate certin mental spots..
and example is whenever i'm on XTC i'm exetremly open to pretty much anyone i meet, without i'm a sorta quiet person
trippin makes me think odd stuff..
someone told me once PCP isn't that crazy of a drug. its just another trip and you have to be able to handle yourself on it or else things go crazy...
...but i've never done pcp so i dunno to be exact.. i've heard stories of people freaking out on acid but when i did it i managed to control myself..some people just cant..
its mostly the user...just some substance are prone to generate some outcomes more easily





But i think there is a limit. Sure we can say "just handle yourself". But when push comes to shove i think the most mentally unstable person could handle a heroic dose of PCP out in a open field miles away from society.

Now lets give a "Normal" person a large dose of PCP and put him in a room full of alarm clocks going off, and strobe lights all over, playing the exorcist on a large projection screen against the wall. (just handle yourself right :shrug:)


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