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Most intense trip of my life. Scary, but eye opening.
#14284736 - 04/13/11 03:54 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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So lately I've been diving headfirst into ayahuasca. Lots of research for a couple months now. So as a kind of testing the waters dose, I made an ~7 gram dose jello shot. It was great. No taste, no nausea. I could not have been happier with the trip. In fact, I told myself that my drug of choice had changed from LSD to aya.
Today was different. I decided to take a big dose. Something almost heroic. I went for 15 grams. I had no idea what I was in for. I tried to make this a jello shot too, however it failed to solidify. So I drank it down, and it tasted similar to bitter coffee; not good, not bad. Since it hadn't turned to jello, I was doubting its potency and I was a bit anxious because i wasn't expecting much.
About 45 minutes in, I was having some pretty good visuals, but nothing crazy. Then I suddenly felt really nauseous. I threw up and felt so much better, so I decided to lay down and just watch a little tv. This is when I noticed that my eyes were getting really heave, and I was yawning a lot. I was thinking to myself, "Am I really going to fall asleep and waste this?" Then things took a turn out of reality. I started floating in space, inside of a huge fabric tunnel that was pulsating. I started seeing faces, and new rooms, and demons. I saw some of my friends and my mom dead. This was all so scary, and I was super creeped out and I felt like I was losing my mind. I was worried about how this trip was going to change me as a person. I thought I would change completely.
Then, the scariness started to subside (thanks to some help of my fellow shroomerites). And when it did, I was happy that I had gone through the scary parts. I felt like I was better for the experience. For example, seeing my friends dead would usually not be okay, but it really made me feel like I just needed to appreciate them more, as much as I can.
This trip made it clear to me that a difficult trip is not necessarily a bad one. I think this is the experience that has taught me to just accept the scary things that can go on during an aya trip, and you will eventually feel like you learned from it.
I am very happy I went through this, and while I might not do a dose this large again, I do not regret it even a little.
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Re: Most intense trip of my life. Scary, but eye opening. [Re: bholzer]
#14285038 - 04/13/11 04:42 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Great read. It has me anxious for my biggest dose on mushies coming soon. I already know it won't be pleasent but I'm accepting that now.
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Re: Most intense trip of my life. Scary, but eye opening. [Re: bholzer]
#14285070 - 04/13/11 04:47 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yawning is a very common prelude to tryptamine intoxication. It is a heralding sign - commonly referred to as an "alert". You will most likely notice you will yawn on the come up on a decent dose of mushrooms, too.
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Re: Most intense trip of my life. Scary, but eye opening. [Re: AbstraKt_I_Am]
#14285575 - 04/13/11 06:14 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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AbstraKt_I_Am said: Great read. It has me anxious for my biggest dose on mushies coming soon. I already know it won't be pleasent but I'm accepting that now.
How much do you plan on taking?
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Re: Most intense trip of my life. Scary, but eye opening. [Re: bholzer]
#14285581 - 04/13/11 06:15 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I've taken heroic doses of shrooms twice, and both times it was enjoyable. Eating a lot doesn't make the trip bad, just more intense. You control whether it is bad or not.
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Re: Most intense trip of my life. Scary, but eye opening. [Re: Joolz]
#14285612 - 04/13/11 06:22 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Joolz said: I've taken heroic doses of shrooms twice, and both times it was enjoyable. Eating a lot doesn't make the trip bad, just more intense. You control whether it is bad or not.
Yea, I've eaten a 7 gram dose of shrooms a few times, and I've also had a couple times of eating a ten strip. I'm a heroic dose kind of guy. That's why I thought I could handle the heavy aya dose, but it really was shocking to me how difficult of a trip it was. I think a large percentage of trip reports where people take this much have the same result: really really intense fucking trips that are on the scary side.
I will never again underestimate the power of this drug, as I think it is a different monster from both cid and shrooms
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Re: Most intense trip of my life. Scary, but eye opening. [Re: bholzer]
#14285628 - 04/13/11 06:24 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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bholzer very interesting, I'm intimidated by ayahuasca and it is reports like this that tell me I am not ready for something that fast. But I suppose lower doses would be a lot more manageable.
Nature boy yes I absolutely get the yawns, especially on mushrooms but also sometimes on LSD.
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Re: Most intense trip of my life. Scary, but eye opening. [Re: drr]
#14285695 - 04/13/11 06:32 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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drr said: bholzer very interesting, I'm intimidated by ayahuasca and it is reports like this that tell me I am not ready for something that fast. But I suppose lower doses would be a lot more manageable.
Nature boy yes I absolutely get the yawns, especially on mushrooms but also sometimes on LSD.
My 7 gram dose was perfect. I literally don't think I could have had a better time. It was like taking some strong acid with a lot of empathy thrown in. I was talking as much as I do on X.
I would say (and I'm no expert, just had the two experiences) that there's no need to be intimidated, just be sure you understand the power of the drug you are taking. Know that you can have a really fun and happy trip if you take the right dose, but you can also have a very intense and significant trip.
My suggestion for your first aya, is to use 7-8 grams of mimosa and 3.5 grams of rue, and use the jello tek. I felt no nausea with it.
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Re: Most intense trip of my life. Scary, but eye opening. [Re: bholzer]
#14285845 - 04/13/11 06:56 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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AbstraKt_I_Am said: Great read. It has me anxious for my biggest dose on mushies coming soon. I already know it won't be pleasent but I'm accepting that now.
How much do you plan on taking?
25-30g wet Atlantis Sclerotia.. Aged at around 5 months. 18g last time caught me off guard when I was only wanting to have a recreational trip. I was in the process of forgetting who I was and having my ego erased, had psychedelic "rainbows" take over my OEV during the peak..
But I called a friend and fought,fought, and fought for 5 hours. A few more grams and I wouldn't have been able to resist. Now Its intentional to dose high, I just don't know compared to Cubes where Id be in terms of dry grams.
And I know the trip wont be bad. But I know my inner demons all too well and the things that make me a shitty individual at times are going to come full force. Im ready to submit.
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Re: Most intense trip of my life. Scary, but eye opening. [Re: AbstraKt_I_Am]
#14285886 - 04/13/11 07:02 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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AbstraKt_I_Am said: Great read. It has me anxious for my biggest dose on mushies coming soon. I already know it won't be pleasent but I'm accepting that now.
How much do you plan on taking?
25-30g wet Atlantis Sclerotia.. Aged at around 5 months. 18g last time caught me off guard when I was only wanting to have a recreational trip. I was in the process of forgetting who I was and having my ego erased, had psychedelic "rainbows" take over my OEV during the peak..
But I called a friend and fought,fought, and fought for 5 hours. A few more grams and I wouldn't have been able to resist. Now Its intentional to dose high, I just don't know compared to Cubes where Id be in terms of dry grams.
And I know the trip wont be bad. But I know my inner demons all too well and the things that make me a shitty individual at times are going to come full force. Im ready to submit.
I was caught off guard like that too. I tried to submit, but since I was so shocked by the strength, I couldnt give in. Now though, since I know what to expect, I think I'll have more control over it the next time. I'll be ready to handle the things that come at me.
I think your large dose, like mine, will probably have a level of difficulty to it. But trust me, it is worth it to feel like I did after.
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Re: Most intense trip of my life. Scary, but eye opening. [Re: bholzer]
#14285924 - 04/13/11 07:08 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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bholzer said: But trust me, it is worth it to feel like I did after.
AMEN to that.
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Re: Most intense trip of my life. Scary, but eye opening. [Re: AbstraKt_I_Am]
#14286378 - 04/13/11 08:13 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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WOW! You guys really push the envelope on dosage! That amount of decent cubensis is inconceivable to me!
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Re: Most intense trip of my life. Scary, but eye opening. [Re: Nature Boy]
#14286425 - 04/13/11 08:23 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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UGH! I'm a heroic dose kind of guy too. I can't WAIT till my shrooms are done growing so I can eat all of them.
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Re: Most intense trip of my life. Scary, but eye opening. [Re: Joolz]
#14286439 - 04/13/11 08:24 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Joolz said: UGH! I'm a heroic dose kind of guy too. I can't WAIT till my shrooms are done growing so I can eat all of them.
I'm thinking of starting my own grow. How much time and money have you invested?
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Re: Most intense trip of my life. Scary, but eye opening. [Re: bholzer]
#14286556 - 04/13/11 08:45 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Joolz said: UGH! I'm a heroic dose kind of guy too. I can't WAIT till my shrooms are done growing so I can eat all of them.
I'm thinking of starting my own grow. How much time and money have you invested?
I spent like $45 and grew a half ounce of the weakest cubes ever. My dog ate over a quarter (accidently). I gave an 8th to a friend with the pre assumption I would get more and better flushes. But it caught horrible contams and the cops got my grow before it had any hope of turning around. I took back my $80 pressure cooker to wal mart after I knocked up the jars. People told me I had bad karma for that. Dunno.
The Atlantis truffles I grew cost $80 start to finish, and Ive gotten little around 1400 wet grams in truffles. With 25g wet said to equal around 5g's of dry cubes.
Cubes are way funner to grow though.
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Re: Most intense trip of my life. Scary, but eye opening. [Re: bholzer]
#14286566 - 04/13/11 08:48 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I've done two PF teks. Last time I had a total of 5 cakes going, and had like 7 more that were colonizing. I probably grew like 2 ounces of shrooms off those 5 cakes, but I had to get rid of all of it (the day I was going to birth 4 more cakes too, fuck. )
Now, I've got 8 cakes going, and will be making probably 8 more whenever I make more syringes from my first flushes. I've probably spent like 100-150 bucks for a thousand dollars worth of profit (inbetween the times I ate them or the times I'd sell em to friends to make the money I spent back). Honestly man, you can't go wrong with PF tek. 200 bucks in a place where you can get a good 30-50 cakes going (you can easily do that with 200 bucks I would think) is going to make you one happy fucking camper.
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Re: Most intense trip of my life. Scary, but eye opening. [Re: Joolz]
#14286729 - 04/13/11 09:11 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Wow. You guys need to do a single monotub. Stupid easy for practically NO money and MAJOR yield. Here's a picture of a FRACTION of the first flush of a monotub I did a couple of years ago:

Cambodian multispore in rye grain to 50/50 horse poo and straw. That's about 1/4 of the total yield and I simply tossed the grow 'cause I had more than I knew what to do with or could dry with my dehydrator.
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Re: Most intense trip of my life. Scary, but eye opening. [Re: Nature Boy]
#14286753 - 04/13/11 09:16 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Nature Boy said: Wow. You guys need to do a single monotub. Stupid easy for practically NO money and MAJOR yield. Here's a picture of a FRACTION of the first flush of a monotub I did a couple of years ago:

Cambodian multispore in rye grain to 50/50 horse poo and straw. That's about 1/4 of the total yield and I simply tossed the grow 'cause I had more than I knew what to do with or could dry with my dehydrator.
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You happen to have a semi-detailed tek? I know what you posted is super easy, but I like to have step by step the first time I try anything. That way I can know where I can change the technique, ya know?
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Re: Most intense trip of my life. Scary, but eye opening. [Re: bholzer]
#14286777 - 04/13/11 09:20 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Sure. I could put that together. Just give me some time. Sorry to the OP...seems we jacked your thread. Mea culpa.
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Re: Most intense trip of my life. Scary, but eye opening. [Re: Nature Boy]
#14286786 - 04/13/11 09:22 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Nature Boy said: Sure. I could put that together. Just give me some time. Sorry to the OP...seems we jacked your thread. Mea culpa.
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Awesome, it would be much appreciated.
And I don't care dude, I'm the one who asked about grows!
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Re: Most intense trip of my life. Scary, but eye opening. [Re: bholzer]
#14286835 - 04/13/11 09:31 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Awesome, it would be much appreciated.
And I don't care dude, I'm the one who asked about grows!
Hey few people have mentioned this. Kind of common sense but figured Id just mention it, When you mist your grow buy a bran new clean water bottle for spraying. I used one I washed out of cleaner and am pretty sure its what killed my grow and led to contams.
I had a small mono like Nature Boy. And for a shoe box that turned out with mostly dead Myc, I think a half ounce was a good yield. So hes def. right when he talks about production potential!
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Re: Most intense trip of my life. Scary, but eye opening. [Re: AbstraKt_I_Am]
#14286859 - 04/13/11 09:35 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Nature Boy said: Sure. I could put that together. Just give me some time. Sorry to the OP...seems we jacked your thread. Mea culpa.
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Awesome, it would be much appreciated.
And I don't care dude, I'm the one who asked about grows!
Hey few people have mentioned this. Kind of common sense but figured Id just mention it, When you mist your grow buy a bran new clean water bottle for spraying. I used one I washed out of cleaner and am pretty sure its what killed my grow and led to contams.
I had a small mono like Nature Boy. And for a shoe box that turned out with mostly dead Myc, I think a half ounce was a good yield. So hes def. right when he talks about production potential!
That sounds great. I plan on growing for personal use only, so this sounds perfect. And you can self-sustain easily with this one?
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Re: Most intense trip of my life. Scary, but eye opening. [Re: bholzer]
#14286946 - 04/13/11 09:48 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Nature Boy said: Sure. I could put that together. Just give me some time. Sorry to the OP...seems we jacked your thread. Mea culpa.
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Awesome, it would be much appreciated.
And I don't care dude, I'm the one who asked about grows!
Hey few people have mentioned this. Kind of common sense but figured Id just mention it, When you mist your grow buy a bran new clean water bottle for spraying. I used one I washed out of cleaner and am pretty sure its what killed my grow and led to contams.
I had a small mono like Nature Boy. And for a shoe box that turned out with mostly dead Myc, I think a half ounce was a good yield. So hes def. right when he talks about production potential!
That sounds great. I plan on growing for personal use only, so this sounds perfect. And you can self-sustain easily with this one?
Yup. Its so easy. I would say if you spend some time reading cultivation threads you should be able to throw it together in no time. Those 6QT plastic shoe boxes for a dollar is how I made my Shotgun Double Monotub.
Not a single shroom grew from the top of the substrate;Im guessing because the shit I used for mistings. But when my friend put his together(same size and everything) and had success, he got around 4 and half ounces off his.
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Re: Most intense trip of my life. Scary, but eye opening. [Re: AbstraKt_I_Am]
#14287014 - 04/13/11 10:00 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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this yawning thing is interesting to me.. its like your mind is preparing to go into a regenerative state
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Re: Most intense trip of my life. Scary, but eye opening. [Re: smokin427]
#14287057 - 04/13/11 10:06 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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smokin427 said: this yawning thing is interesting to me.. its like your mind is preparing to go into a regenerative state
Yea, it felt like my body knew it was about to go through a shitstorm, so it was getting ready.
Same goes to the heavy eyes. It was my mind forcing me to experience the aya to the fullest.
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Re: Most intense trip of my life. Scary, but eye opening. [Re: bholzer]
#14287119 - 04/13/11 10:19 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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bholzer said: I was caught off guard like that too. I tried to submit, but since I was so shocked by the strength, I couldnt give in. Now though, since I know what to expect, I think I'll have more control over it the next time. I'll be ready to handle the things that come at me.
That's exactly how I felt on my last LSD trip. I dropped a tenstrip of some really awesome acid...all my other trips were 2-6 hits, and this was on such a different level I couldn't even believe it. I had planned on submitting to whatever came, and then faced with a total loss of reality only 40 minutes in I freaked out and fought tooth and nail to hang onto it, afraid of how much more intense it was going to get. Lol I looked at the clock what felt like hours later at the 50 minute mark and I was just like "jesus christ, fuck it" and the rest was interesting to say the least. I don't remember a lot of the night, to be honest, but I certainly didn't regret it!
You should just go in not expecting anything whatsoever and just DO IT. Smoke a bowl at the first sign of effects and hang on for the ride.
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Re: Most intense trip of my life. Scary, but eye opening. [Re: tokinman21]
#14287206 - 04/13/11 10:35 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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bholzer said: I was caught off guard like that too. I tried to submit, but since I was so shocked by the strength, I couldnt give in. Now though, since I know what to expect, I think I'll have more control over it the next time. I'll be ready to handle the things that come at me.
That's exactly how I felt on my last LSD trip. I dropped a tenstrip of some really awesome acid...all my other trips were 2-6 hits, and this was on such a different level I couldn't even believe it. I had planned on submitting to whatever came, and then faced with a total loss of reality only 40 minutes in I freaked out and fought tooth and nail to hang onto it, afraid of how much more intense it was going to get. Lol I looked at the clock what felt like hours later at the 50 minute mark and I was just like "jesus christ, fuck it" and the rest was interesting to say the least. I don't remember a lot of the night, to be honest, but I certainly didn't regret it!
You should just go in not expecting anything whatsoever and just DO IT. Smoke a bowl at the first sign of effects and hang on for the ride. 
Almost word for word how I felt. Swear to god. Unfortunately, I cant smoke any bud on probation and I get tested randomly. Oh how I wish I could.
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