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peyote seeds popped but dint show growth
    #14283912 - 04/13/11 01:19 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

can seeds stall??? because i planted 10 seeds in a container and only 2 of them have germinated adecuately...

other 2 seeds seemed to have cracked open but they havent shown signs of growth... i can only see a little white in the crack... using a magnifying glass of course???

so are these already dead???


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Re: peyote seeds popped but dint show growth [Re: AIRDOG]
    #14283945 - 04/13/11 01:24 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Could be a couple of reasons as to why this happened. Were they relatively fresh seeds? Older seeds have a much lower rate of germination. Another possibility would be too much light, or they got too dried out, or a mixture of both.

How long has it been since you planted the seeds?


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Re: peyote seeds popped but dint show growth [Re: LbDub]
    #14287576 - 04/13/11 11:28 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I planted on 21/03/11 I dont know how old the seeds are... i got them from a plant collected from the wild... the fruit was completely dried out and kinda hiding on the fuzzy crown


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Re: peyote seeds popped but dint show growth [Re: AIRDOG]
    #14288221 - 04/14/11 02:15 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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other 2 seeds seemed to have cracked open but they havent shown signs of growth... i can only see a little white in the crack... using a magnifying glass of course???





How long ago did you notice that those 2 seeds had cracked open? They could be just taking their time.

You seeing White is a good sign. They can start out this colour then green up over the next week or Two.


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Re: peyote seeds popped but dint show growth [Re: karode13]
    #14290663 - 04/14/11 03:09 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

they have been cracked open for like a week or so... one of them showed a little growth but it turned brown and didnt grow anymore


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Re: peyote seeds popped but dint show growth [Re: AIRDOG]
    #14291266 - 04/14/11 04:46 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Seeds do degrade over time. I got some seeds from a Dutch vender that had a 20% germination rate and I got some seeds from a British vender that had a 40% germination rate.


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Re: peyote seeds popped but dint show growth [Re: AIRDOG]
    #14294330 - 04/15/11 06:26 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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they have been cracked open for like a week or so... one of them showed a little growth but it turned brown and didnt grow anymore





If they turned brown then they're more than likely dead I'm afraid. Two out of Ten isn't great but at least you have something to work with.


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Re: peyote seeds popped but dint show growth [Re: karode13]
    #14297409 - 04/15/11 07:01 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

ohh too bad... :frown: should i remove it from the tray??? yeah I am thankful and glad that AT LEAST I have 2 nice healty looking babies. so when should I give them some nutes??? I really want to graft these babies... do you think its a waste to give nutes to the seedlings if im going to graft?? what size its the best for doing this??

thanx everyone for all your help for this hard headed hippe....


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Re: peyote seeds popped but dint show growth [Re: AIRDOG]
    #14297427 - 04/15/11 07:05 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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ohh too bad... :frown: should i remove it from the tray??? yeah I am thankful and glad that AT LEAST I have 2 nice healty looking babies. so when should I give them some nutes??? I really want to graft these babies... do you think its a waste to give nutes to the seedlings if im going to graft?? what size its the best for doing this??

thanx everyone for all your help for this hard headed hippe....





I'd keep them in there, I've had seeds sprout in betweeen 1-2 months after I sowed them. I imagine they don't need any nutes at the moment, especially if you're planning on grafting them.

As far as what size peyotes need to be for grafts I'm not entirely sure so I'll let the peyote lovers answer that. Best of luck.


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Re: peyote seeds popped but dint show growth [Re: AIRDOG]
    #14298343 - 04/15/11 10:18 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

The dead ones I'd remove, this is to prevent any mould or fungi taking hold on them. Just a precautionary thing.

I wouldn't bother giving them nutes if you're going to graft. They don't really need any for the first 6 months in my opinion.

As for grafting this will depend on what grafting stock you have available. If you have pereskiopsis you could graft now or in a few weeks, depending on how confident you feel you are. If you only have larger stock you may have to wait until they're larger, like a year+ old.


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Re: peyote seeds popped but dint show growth [Re: karode13]
    #14307749 - 04/17/11 05:26 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

awww it sucks I cant find pereskiopsis... i have already seatched for it in the local exotic cacti shop


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Re: peyote seeds popped but dint show growth [Re: AIRDOG]
    #14310075 - 04/18/11 01:20 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Can the pereskiopsis be slightly larger, and still take?


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Re: peyote seeds popped but dint show growth [Re: Dscid]
    #14314501 - 04/18/11 10:46 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

hehehe guess what?? just found out that there is an endemic species of pereskiopsis in my state!!!! hehehe im going out tomorrow to the spiny bushlands to search for my grafting stock


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