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Peyotelove
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My love for Peyotes =) 6
#14283215 - 04/13/11 10:55 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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]I like peyote, I want to know something. I dont want to eat my plants but i want to know if this plants should contain mescaline? Some people says only the plant in there habitates have mescaline and the plant in the cold Europe countries are free of mescalie. I know this man dont like if people eat there plants because the plants are very old but will someone please tell me if my plants are free of mescaline or do i have potent plants? the most of my plants are 40 years and older,, have some plants of 100 or older!!!




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Re: My love for Peyotes =) [Re: Peyotelove]
#14283247 - 04/13/11 11:01 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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..wow 
There does seem to be a myth that peyote grown out of habitat is inactive, but it is just that, a myth.
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Quote:
Mostly_Harmless said: ..wow 
There does seem to be a myth that peyote grown out of habitat is inactive, but it is just that, a myth.
Correct. This is just a myth.
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Peyotelove
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Hello The most of my plants are original plants from habitate. They are imported when import of plants was legal by the low in 1960s or 70s.
So the most of my plants are very very old. But Guys, you think i can have a nice trip if i (ever) shall eat some of this plants? Can i have a light mescaline trip? how potent are this plants? should this plants ( so old) be very potent?
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Re: My love for Peyotes =) [Re: Peyotelove] 1
#14283497 - 04/13/11 11:53 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Peyotelove said: Hello The most of my plants are original plants from habitate. They are imported when import of plants was legal by the low in 1960s or 70s.
So the most of my plants are very very old. But Guys, you think i can have a nice trip if i (ever) shall eat some of this plants? Can i have a light mescaline trip? how potent are this plants? should this plants ( so old) be very potent?
Yes. you'll have a wonderful experience. They all look very healthy and happy. And you'll feel the same. I don't think they'd mind if you ate just a couple of buttons. You should eat a couple of buttons and then go in that greenhouse and spend time with the peyotes.
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Peyotelove
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Thanks for your comment guys. What i feel for peyote is mutch more than only a hobby or play. It is a way of life for me. I can only think on peyote the whole time, spend many hours with my plants ( if im free of my work) and talk with them'.
I have experience with Ayahuasca, Salvia and mushrooms ( many times) but mescaline is new for me. I like Peyote so mutch that i feel the feeling to want to meet the soil of the plant and ( teach) its lessons.
I live in Holland and next after a coupel of weeks there will be a huichol sjarmaan here for a hikuri=peyote session in Holland. I would participate with that session.
I really want to know from people who personally has taken peyote. Is the experience comparabel with mushrooms of ayahuasca? Would the trip be very strong? I have heard de sjarmaan takes dry skin peyote with him and you may take as much as you want ( teaspoons of peyote).
If i want self eaten some of my own buttons, how many buttons are ready? i have ever eat 4 very small buttons of 4 cm, i had make tea of it and take it with 100 grams of hony but i became only relax and tired... i think it was not enough mescaline in the plantsm, that plants were very young and small... i have many many big buttons,,, if a plants is about 70 years, would the plant have much more mescaline in it? how many big plants i need for a mild and nice trip? ( first time not too strong)
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Re: My love for Peyotes =) [Re: Peyotelove]
#14283873 - 04/13/11 01:12 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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That is a beautiful peyote collection!
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Re: My love for Peyotes =) [Re: Peyotelove]
#14283934 - 04/13/11 01:22 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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http://www.erowid.org/plants/peyote/peyote_dose.shtml
I couldn't say how accurate this is, and the button count is based on much smaller specimens than yours, but it may help somewhat using the weights as a guide.
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Incredible collection you have. Thanks for taking care of such nice plants.
Can you point out the oldest ones you know of in there? Best of luck with your journey.
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Peyotelove
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hello guys Tommorow, i shall take new picturs of the oldest plants with there habitate variation. The most are from diffrent habitates,, all of them are williamssi but with variation, i have plants from texas, hipolito, san antonio and more.... the most are imported in 1960 but the plants were as big as now ( mature plants) and i think the age would be over 100 years!!!!
I can find information about buttons of 6 cm to eat but my plants are mutch bigger,, i have plants with one head i think about 50 gram ( maybe more). I will not eat the big ones but i think the trip would be amazing. Gys, please share your story, everything about peyote with me... have you ever eaten your own buttons? is the trip strong? mild/? and how many buttons of the big plants you think i need? ( buttons of my plants)
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Re: My love for Peyotes =) [Re: Peyotelove]
#14285068 - 04/13/11 04:47 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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i to you my friend.
those pics would have been a great addition to this thread.
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Those are amazing plants! More power to you for keeping those guys thriving! Have you started a legacy of seedlings yet? Either way those are beautiful!
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Re: My love for Peyotes =) [Re: fngbronco]
#14285462 - 04/13/11 05:57 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Irie, Sweeeet! Can't ya prune them???? Then let them grow back??? Respect, Z
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Re: My love for Peyotes =) [Re: Zaka]
#14287613 - 04/13/11 11:35 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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eat a big old one man.... you wont be dissapointed, here they call them peyote abuelo... grandfather peyote and are the most potent...
if you dont want to sacrifice an elderly plant then eat no less than 5 decent sized buttons
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Re: My love for Peyotes =) [Re: AIRDOG]
#14287653 - 04/13/11 11:45 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I would eat the biggest oldest man... its a once in a lifetime oportunity....
there arent big plants like that in the wild anymore you know.... you have a big trasure there... Im sure that eating just one wont hurt.... you have alreay done lot for the conservation of the specie
you grow rigth??
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Re: My love for Peyotes =) [Re: AIRDOG]
#14288272 - 04/14/11 02:34 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Holy shit! That'd have to be the most impressive personal Loph collection ive ever seen. Very nice.
I suppose with a collection like that you wouldnt miss one or two of the big old ones too much.
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Re: My love for Peyotes =) [Re: Shroomeup]
#14288328 - 04/14/11 02:59 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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wow.
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Re: My love for Peyotes =) [Re: madcapper]
#14288410 - 04/14/11 04:06 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Edited by waves (04/22/11 12:38 AM)
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Re: My love for Peyotes =) [Re: waves] 1
#14288510 - 04/14/11 05:31 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Guys Thanx for your comment and compliments. Realy, i love peyote with my heart and soil. I have now taken some new pictures of some plants of close so you can see them better.
plant number 1, lophophora Williamsii v. Rinconada from 1988, plants has now 3 flowers and is very fine. ( the plant witout flower is lophopora willamssi from San roberto).

Picture 2 a big single head plant from Texas witch is imported in 1962 ( it was nearly as big as now), the plant is at least 80 years.

Plants 3 One of my oldest plants, from huizache, at least 100 years, imported in 1969

and number 4 a plant imported in 1969, one big head entro... ( i dont know the name)

Next month i shall go to a huichol sjarmaan who comes to Holland for a peyote-session and i ever shall eat some old plants of me when im ready for it,,,
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Re: My love for Peyotes =) [Re: Peyotelove]
#14288590 - 04/14/11 06:20 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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should be a diffrence in potency beteween peyote for exampel huizache or texana?
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Re: My love for Peyotes =) [Re: Peyotelove]
#14289987 - 04/14/11 01:07 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: My love for Peyotes =) [Re: waves]
#14290554 - 04/14/11 02:49 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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That really is an amazing collection!
If you are going to try eating some of those with experienced peyote users, you should not worry about eating too much. It will not kill you and those who are experienced can guide you.
Did you inherit that collection from your family?
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Edited by overstand (04/14/11 02:52 PM)
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Re: My love for Peyotes =) [Re: overstand] 2
#14290593 - 04/14/11 02:57 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Stunning! Amazing. You are my hero . Go ahead and take a ride with the oldest of your peyotes. You have done more than enough for their species. They look soo good and healthy  Great job.
Enjoy your experience
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Re: My love for Peyotes =) [Re: Damkina] 1
#14290683 - 04/14/11 03:13 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I don't think the old ones should be touched until he's become more experienced with their knowledge. I think like anything else he should apprentice first and follow the master and his journeyman then go from there. You don't swim the English channel your first time in the water.
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Re: My love for Peyotes =) [Re: fngbronco]
#14290858 - 04/14/11 03:42 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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how much to buy one?
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Re: My love for Peyotes =) [Re: imachavel]
#14291776 - 04/14/11 06:16 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Irie, Looks like a great idea would be to "Poll" it!!! Like Damkina said, you've done enough for the species and deserve the biggest, fattest, oldest one, just for yourself. Respect, Z
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Re: My love for Peyotes =) [Re: Zaka]
#14294082 - 04/15/11 03:55 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Guys thanks for your reactions. Im happy with this old plants. Im 28 and i shall take care of them many years. I can send you seeds if you wants seeds from original plants. I hope lophophora grow everywhere in the world
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Re: My love for Peyotes =) [Re: Peyotelove]
#14294210 - 04/15/11 05:03 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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First off, welcome to the Shroomery.
Secondly what a nice collection.
I've also got to ask you to please keep any trade talk to Private messages(PM) as it isn't allowed here in the Ethno Garden, only in the marketplace. I ask you to read the rules and guidelines of this forum if you haven't already. Here's a link.
As for eating them I agree with fngbronco. You should do a little more research into the endeavor before deciding what to do. You have a once in a lifetime collection there and it would be a shame to rush into it ill informed and regret it later. If what you say is true about the age of some of them then they're older than you. If I were in your position I wouldn't touch those old timers.
You can cut your peyote in a certain way and this will encourage it to regrow new heads from the areoles. I've just done this to one of mine at the start of January and it's already sprouting new heads.
Here's some links to information on how to do this. Something to consider anyway.
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Re: My love for Peyotes =) [Re: karode13]
#14294715 - 04/15/11 09:25 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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wooow... :O
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Re: My love for Peyotes =) [Re: lillFish]
#14296113 - 04/15/11 03:04 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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this thread has really sparked my interest in growing some peyote. 
what a beautiful collection of cacti. truly amazing.
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