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Is it time for reorganization
#14281619 - 04/13/11 12:11 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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When will Americans get off their lazy asses and take over running the country?
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Re: Is it time for reorganization [Re: 4HO-DMT]
#14281624 - 04/13/11 12:13 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: Is it time for reorganization [Re: 4HO-DMT]
#14281639 - 04/13/11 12:17 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I think that the structure on which the elites stand will eventually collapse upon itself. It's been a house of cards all along, and in the grand scheme of things has only been in existence for a very short time.
I'd prefer to watch out for myself and take care of my own than fuck up the country even worse with some perverse, rapacious form of "altruism."
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Re: Is it time for reorganization [Re: 4HO-DMT] 1
#14281641 - 04/13/11 12:17 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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e. wait till they collapse under their own stupidity (which they will) and build something better, we have the technology.
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Re: Is it time for reorganization [Re: Shroomism]
#14281645 - 04/13/11 12:18 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Shroomism said: e. wait till they collapse under their own stupidity (which they will) and build something better, we have the technology.
and the natural resources and the land.
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Re: Is it time for reorganization [Re: Shroomism]
#14281660 - 04/13/11 12:23 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Tchan909 said: I think that the structure on which the elites stand will eventually collapse upon itself. It's been a house of cards all along, and in the grand scheme of things has only been in existence for a very short time.
I'd prefer to watch out for myself and take care of my own than fuck up the country even worse with some perverse, rapacious form of "altruism."
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Shroomism said: e. wait till they collapse under their own stupidity (which they will) and build something better, we have the technology.
Believe it or not, I think the Lazy cow method will work in the end. We dont even have to give the politician/Gov a rope to hang themselves with, because they went and brought their own. Its just a matter of time.....
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Re: Is it time for reorganization [Re: 4HO-DMT]
#14281668 - 04/13/11 12:25 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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and the peoples and the numbers, wait what the fuck are we waiting for anyway? oh that's right natural disasters have to happen first and the power and tv has to go out before people revolt. The future is in renewable energies and self-sustainable communities!
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Re: Is it time for reorganization [Re: Shroomism]
#14281674 - 04/13/11 12:27 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Shroomism said: and the peoples and the numbers, wait what the fuck are we waiting for anyway? oh that's right natural disasters have to happen first and the power and tv has to go out before people revolt. The future is in renewable energies and self-sustainable communities!

I can't wait to see what small, self-determining collectives will be able to achieve with full ownership of modern technology.
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Re: Is it time for reorganization [Re: Shroomism]
#14281682 - 04/13/11 12:31 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Shroomism said: and the peoples and the numbers, wait what the fuck are we waiting for anyway? oh that's right natural disasters have to happen first and the power and tv has to go out before people revolt. The future is in renewable energies and self-sustainable communities!
I like this. But, I am not content with the lazy cow approach. You know, 5 years before the fall of the Roman empire, you could walk down the street and say watch the fuck out because this shit aint gonna last. Soon you will be destroyed. And, you know what? There general response was to wait it out and see. Well, we all know how that ended. History repeats it self. This is one of the most important things to keep in mind when thinking about the history our country makes these days.
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Re: Is it time for reorganization [Re: Shroomism]
#14281688 - 04/13/11 12:33 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Shroomism said: and the peoples and the numbers, wait what the fuck are we waiting for anyway? oh that's right natural disasters have to happen first and the power and tv has to go out before people revolt. The future is in renewable energies and self-sustainable communities!
I agree. with the first part. We gotta take those cunt wipes by surprise.
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Re: Is it time for reorganization [Re: 4HO-DMT]
#14281693 - 04/13/11 12:35 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Power corrupts. You take power away from the elites, you become an elite.
History occurs in cycles, right?
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What would it be, rich vs. poor? I'd choose poor though because sure I'm comfortable, I don't think the distribution of wealth is fair and the people who disagree are the super rich and I don't know or give a fuck aboutem
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Tchan909 said: Power corrupts. You take power away from the elites, you become an elite.
History occurs in cycles, right? 
Right you are. Nature repeats in cycles. Fuck, as far as we know the universe expands and contracts in cylces. I study cylces for a living. There is always a spectral cycle that you can findz: Econmonics, Politics, Global Fake ass warming, weather, Even the nightly posts on here tend to have a general genre that is periodic.
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Re: Is it time for reorganization [Re: PreparationH]
#14281705 - 04/13/11 12:39 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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PreparationH said: What would it be, rich vs. poor? I'd choose poor though because sure I'm comfortable, I don't think the distribution of wealth is fair and the people who disagree are the super rich and I don't know or give a fuck aboutem
People honestly do get fucked over by the system in this country, and it's going to get worse before it gets better IMO.
I find Physicist's interpretation of power and class relationships to be immature, though. The people who did most of the dying when the Roman Empire collapsed were soldiers and elites. The cattle turned out fine for the most part.
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Re: Is it time for reorganization [Re: PreparationH]
#14281710 - 04/13/11 12:42 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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PreparationH said: What would it be, rich vs. poor? I'd choose poor though because sure I'm comfortable, I don't think the distribution of wealth is fair and the people who disagree are the super rich and I don't know or give a fuck aboutem
GO with who you please but about 90% of us umptine million people are approaching poverty with the raising cost of living. The rest just sit upon piles of money that is incomprehensible schooling us for every dime that they can. If I had to pick a side, it would be with the 90%
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I would consider ideologues with delusions of grandeur sufficient enough to think they know what's good for the entire country far more dangerous than the current ruling elite.
Consider the People's Revolution in China - the country was taken over by disgruntled workers. While I'm all for control of the means of production by the workers, Mao extended this control by his gang over the entire country, resulting in the death of 45 million by starvation as he and his cohorts blundered through the process of centralizing food production in their so-called Great Leap Forward.
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Re: Is it time for reorganization [Re: 4HO-DMT]
#14281719 - 04/13/11 12:45 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I dunno, the 10% can afford better weapons lol jk let them buy them I'll take them and el oh el
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Tchan909 said: I would consider ideologues with delusions of grandeur sufficient enough to think they know what's good for the entire country far more dangerous than the current ruling elite.
Consider the People's Revolution in China - the country was taken over by disgruntled workers. While I'm all for control of the means of production by the workers, Mao extended this control over the entire country, resulting in the death of 45 million by starvation as he and his cohorts blundered through the process of centralizing food production in their so-called Great Leap Forward.
China is a funny country. On the books they are communist. However one of the major financial hubs of the world resides in Hong Kong. I know somebody there that works for the World Bank, and the guy pulls in 1 to 2 mil per year. Communist???
There really is no perfect economic system. I think it should be a combination of socialism and capitalism, but I'm not trained to set that up. I'm gonna ride the bull just like everybody else and see how it goes. I think I would like to see some bloodshead and action on our soil though. Truth.
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Re: Is it time for reorganization [Re: 4HO-DMT]
#14281766 - 04/13/11 12:57 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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China is not communist and I could make a fair argument that they never were. China (and until 1990 the USSR) both tend to use the Communist Manifesto as a kind of Bible, distorting it to rationalize their various bizarre and otherwise unjustifiable practices.
I, personally, would prefer never to witness bloodshed or premature death of loved ones.
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Re: Is it time for reorganization [Re: 4HO-DMT]
#14281847 - 04/13/11 01:20 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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You don't have the poll option I want.
- Do nothing for fear of jail/prison/being named a terrorist
You're right; peaceful demonstration does nothing. Without the ability to actually interfere with businesses and the daily lives of the people in charge, we are helpless. *Carry on America*
Besides, America is doomed anyway, it's just going to be another Mexico (can you say uh-oh, Canada? LOL!). In 2030 whites will supposedly be the minority, due to the baby explosion of immigrants. I love how they say that whites are not as fertile. Um, hello? We're *responsible*, and don't have eight kids at a time. There are some pretty racist assholes here (not talking white people although there are also those). YMMV.....
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Re: Is it time for reorganization [Re: 4HO-DMT]
#14281857 - 04/13/11 01:24 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I must say that I am disapointed with these results. the majority are lazy fucks that don't want to move forward and take what is ours. This is what I was worried about. I mean if I had posted on myface or spacebook, I would have expected this, but not from you guys. If we do this, I guarantee that all that money we spend abroad on national defenece? It will come right back to us.
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Re: Is it time for reorganization [Re: sandi]
#14281859 - 04/13/11 01:24 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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sandi said: You don't have the poll option I want.
- Do nothing for fear of jail/prison/being named a terrorist
You're right; peaceful demonstration does nothing. Without the ability to actually interfere with businesses and the daily lives of the people in charge, we are helpless. *Carry on America*
Besides, America is doomed anyway, it's just going to be another Mexico (can you say uh-oh, Canada? LOL!). In 2030 whites will supposedly be the minority, due to the baby explosion of immigrants. I love how they say that whites are not as fertile. Um, hello? We're *responsible*, and don't have eight kids at a time. In Norcal there are some pretty racist assholes here (not talking white people). That comes with living in a predominantly asian-mexican neighborhood I suppose. YMMV.....
Yeah, I know. But If you want true change you have to take risks.
as for America becomeing another Mexico, Almost every imigrant that I have met in the US is one hard working motherfucker, and They done't do a tax return, so they are overtaxed and we benefit from that. Plus they take the jobs that prissy americans have their noses to high to even think about doing that work. The whole imigration deal is based on media propaganda in order to boost their agenda.
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Re: Is it time for reorganization [Re: sandi]
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sandi said: You don't have the poll option I want.
- Do nothing for fear of jail/prison/being named a terrorist
You're right; peaceful demonstration does nothing. Without the ability to actually interfere with businesses and the daily lives of the people in charge, we are helpless. *Carry on America*
Besides, America is doomed anyway, it's just going to be another Mexico (can you say uh-oh, Canada? LOL!). In 2030 whites will supposedly be the minority, due to the baby explosion of immigrants. I love how they say that whites are not as fertile. Um, hello? We're *responsible*, and don't have eight kids at a time. In Norcal there are some pretty racist assholes here (not talking white people). That comes with living in a predominantly asian-mexican neighborhood I suppose. YMMV.....
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sandi said: You don't have the poll option I want.
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You're right; peaceful demonstration does nothing. Without the ability to actually interfere with businesses and the daily lives of the people in charge, we are helpless. *Carry on America*
Besides, America is doomed anyway, it's just going to be another Mexico (can you say uh-oh, Canada? LOL!). In 2030 whites will supposedly be the minority, due to the baby explosion of immigrants. I love how they say that whites are not as fertile. Um, hello? We're *responsible*, and don't have eight kids at a time. In Norcal there are some pretty racist assholes here (not talking white people). That comes with living in a predominantly asian-mexican neighborhood I suppose. YMMV.....

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sandi said: You don't have the poll option I want.
- Do nothing for fear of jail/prison/being named a terrorist
You're right; peaceful demonstration does nothing. Without the ability to actually interfere with businesses and the daily lives of the people in charge, we are helpless. *Carry on America*
Besides, America is doomed anyway, it's just going to be another Mexico (can you say uh-oh, Canada? LOL!). In 2030 whites will supposedly be the minority, due to the baby explosion of immigrants. I love how they say that whites are not as fertile. Um, hello? We're *responsible*, and don't have eight kids at a time. In Norcal there are some pretty racist assholes here (not talking white people). That comes with living in a predominantly asian-mexican neighborhood I suppose. YMMV.....

I can name several irresonsible whites that squirt a baby out about once a year. Racism is part of all of us. I have numberless accounts where people start a sentance with, "You people..." also, since I am in a confrontational mood, I might as well add that I believe that cultural differences lead to a form of racism. It is only natural. I can't tell you the number of times that I have walked past a "Black house" and said man what a pigstye. I know this is not true of all blacks, but the thought still runs through my head. I will add that I have a black tennant right now that is spic and mother fuckin' span.
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Re: Is it time for reorganization [Re: 4HO-DMT]
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I was mainly responding to the idea that the USA will become "just another Mexico" because of a Mexican majority. That is clearly pretty dang racist. Would you call the USA "just another Sweden," or even call Canada "just another USA" because they all share a northern-European majority?
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Violence is not the answer. This is the age of intelligence, information and technology..... We must overcome them by making it better..... by spreading knowledge... by being the change we want to see. Create an alternative reality.. based on logic, love, and natural cycles.. How best to cripple the empire? Then to bypass it completely. To throw their owns fallacies back at them, and shine the light of truth on their misdoings. To create something vastly superior in every way, based on universal truths and knowledge, not ignorance and separation. There is plenty of dirt already collected. Much more is yet unseen. It will all come out. They will destroy themselves. We don't have to even really worry about it.
There will never be a utopian society.... but we can sure as fuck do a lot better than this. The technology and resources exist today to care for every human being indefinitely if we drastically change our way of existence. The only reason we are on our current path of destruction is pure and utter greed Unfortunately that change might take the complete destruction of our civilization. Hopefully not though. The question is who will be there to pick up the pieces when it falls?
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Re: Is it time for reorganization [Re: Shroomism]
#14281914 - 04/13/11 01:46 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Fuck yes Shroomism. I would give you a cool +5 for that post if I hadn't opted out. 
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Tchan909 said: I was mainly responding to the idea that the USA will become "just another Mexico" because of a Mexican majority. That is clearly pretty dang racist. Would you call the USA "just another Sweden," or even call Canada "just another USA" because they all share a northern-European majority?
I call the USA the teenage country of the world. We been around for about 325 years compared to other countries with more experience that have been in business, war, and social upheaval. We all know that teenagers make unwise decisions that get themselves in trouble. We're bound to fuck it up.
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Re: Is it time for reorganization [Re: 4HO-DMT]
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That's kind of a limited way to view the situation...
Other cultures have been around far longer than American culture, it's true. However, very few governments or power relationships have been around longer than the American system. We are a young people with a decrepit, tired government.
I know the Man is old and obnoxious but seriously, just wait another few years and I promise he'll kick the bucket.
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The only reason we are on our current path of destruction is pure and utter greed Unfortunately that change might take the complete destruction of our civilization. Hopefully not though. The question is who will be there to pick up the pieces when it falls?
qf muthafuckin't I'm not in any way shape or from a violent person,but fuck look at history. Shit, look at Libya. Unfortunately, The US is a violent society. So, I am waiting to put my cards down, but if it comes down to it, I will pop anyone that wants to compromise my loved ones.
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