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    #14280133 - 04/12/11 08:14 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

the fakeness... the embarrasing confessions.. people who take too much and their face does weird shit

damn it gives me the creeps.

that being said, some people handle themselves well on the drug and it doesn't really change them and there is pretty much no sketchy comedown. I think it's cool if you take it when you're already happy, but if you take it to get yourself out of a bad mood then you are just going to need it again the next week or the next month.

some people say that ecstacy changed their life permanently for the better. I am not sure about this.


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Re: the thought of people taking ecstacy now makes me feel sick [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #14280155 - 04/12/11 08:17 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

It def changed mine for the better, I was super shy recluse until I did that.  Then I ralised I could be compleletly different and now I have the choice.

It taught me to open up and enjoy life.


When people abuse it it is just shitty - no need to do massive doses.

As for the fake loved up thing - happens on alcohol as well so kinda used to it.

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Re: the thought of people taking ecstacy now makes me feel sick [Re: EternalCowabunga] * 1
    #14280162 - 04/12/11 08:18 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I had a good time the 2-3 times I took 1 pill with friends but people get goofy and super retardely to emotional on more then 80 or so MGs. I can imagine it working great or helping you really know if its over in a relationship with communication problems with a low does and a counselor.


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Re: the thought of people taking ecstacy now makes me feel sick [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #14280165 - 04/12/11 08:19 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

You're about to get a lot of haters in here but I agree with you completely, dude.

The last time I took MDMA with a good friend of mine we actually had a bit of a weird unspoken falling out because I got irritated with the way he was talking and how he would keep repeating inane cosmic nonsense over and over again. After we smoked some DMT it got much, much worse. And he kept smacking his lips like I can't even describe... I found it profoundly obnoxious, somehow.

I feel like kind of a dick for it. He asked to smoke more DMT and I refused on the premise that I was concerned for his safety. He kinda saw through it. Things got really awkward after that and I felt responsible and apologized for being "negative."


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Re: the thought of people taking ecstacy now makes me feel sick [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #14280200 - 04/12/11 08:24 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

MDMA is a seriously overrated drug IMO. I'll agree it's a lot of fun, but it's fun the same way stimulant amphetamines are. When people actually call MDMA psychedelic I get like all :zomgwtf:. Pot is far more psychedelic and yet still not considered "psychedelic" by most people.


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Re: the thought of people taking ecstacy now makes me feel sick [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14280205 - 04/12/11 08:25 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: the thought of people taking ecstacy now makes me feel sick [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #14280208 - 04/12/11 08:26 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Ecstasy is party fuel for the fam straight up. I don't have any problem with it.


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Re: the thought of people taking ecstacy now makes me feel sick [Re: nice1]
    #14280223 - 04/12/11 08:28 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

it definitely changed my life as well. it taught me where my center was, and I was able to incorporate that center into my sober life. Having done it a grand total of five times, I can't say I ever got into the scene, but I did go to a couple of 'e-parties' and i can def see what you are talking about.

but i feel my experience (and my reason for doing it) were definitely different than the people who frequented the parties i went to. as a result my behavior and outcome from use was fundamentally different from the people I met at those parties.


the people i met at those parties it seemed like they were using it much like people use alcohol to just bug out and dance/be sexual not to really take anything from the experience.

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Re: the thought of people taking ecstacy now makes me feel sick [Re: muistrue]
    #14280228 - 04/12/11 08:28 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

As long as you understand that's what it is, party fuel.

I can understand how it makes people feel like they're having lots of deep thoughts, having their minds expanded on it, but I simply think they're wrong, straight-up. It can help you get more comfortable with yourself and others, but so can booze. It's a great drug for a good time but it irks me when it gets called "psychedelic." I'd even go so far as to say DXM is more worthy of being called "psychedelic."


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Re: the thought of people taking ecstacy now makes me feel sick [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14280254 - 04/12/11 08:32 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

MDA can be pretty psychedelic at certain doses and that's usually what I party with. I also rarely do it by itself it's a good primer for other psychedelic drugs.


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Re: the thought of people taking ecstacy now makes me feel sick [Re: muistrue]
    #14280281 - 04/12/11 08:37 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I also like to chase my 'shroom tea with a beer or two. :crazy:

I can't speak for MDA though, I'd like to try that one. I only have experience with MDMA which IME has far more in common with something like adderall or meth than with LSD or mushrooms.


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Re: the thought of people taking ecstacy now makes me feel sick [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14280337 - 04/12/11 08:45 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

MDA is awesome man, I like it way more than MDMA.


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Re: the thought of people taking ecstacy now makes me feel sick [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14280401 - 04/12/11 08:55 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

MDMA filters more social and psychological bullshit than it causes.

This is only a problem with individuals at a party if the meeting is under the pretense of egos, social games like partner hunting, false friendships or repressed animosity.

Weirdness only comes out because you either aren't being honest with yourself, or you aren't being honest with someone else. MDMA works in such a unique way though that if stigma still persists between people, they usually either agree to work it out, part ways quickly, or ignore it and seek stimulation elsewhere.

The false promises and spewing of intimate details is just a catalyzing of the flood gates. It doesn't put anything there that wasn't already there to begin with. Those little pressed pills don't contain your memories, ideas, dreams, fantasies, fears, etc. The question is whether or not you are comfortable being yourself - and around which type of people.


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Re: the thought of people taking ecstacy now makes me feel sick [Re: The Whale]
    #14280438 - 04/12/11 09:00 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I just don't find anything truly worthwhile in it. I think it could be used to treat PTSD and I'm glad it's being researched for that purpose, but as a recreational drug it's pretty dirty. It's pure euphoria, there is literally nothing more to the experience than euphoria. People mistake it for more than that because of how intensely euphoric it really is, but my experiences (positive AND negative) have shown me it's basically just a lovey-dovey version of speed. (And yes, I'm talking about the pure stuff, not pressed pill cut with actual speed.) I find that boring at best, degrading at worst.

Call me a Puritan... :shrug:


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Re: the thought of people taking ecstacy now makes me feel sick [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14280478 - 04/12/11 09:07 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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MDMA is a seriously overrated drug IMO. I'll agree it's a lot of fun, but it's fun the same way stimulant amphetamines are. When people actually call MDMA psychedelic I get like all :zomgwtf:. Pot is far more psychedelic and yet still not considered "psychedelic" by most people.




Agreed.

Best mixed with real psychedelics. Alone it feels empty, missing something.


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Re: the thought of people taking ecstacy now makes me feel sick [Re: propensity]
    #14280492 - 04/12/11 09:09 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

MDA + 2C-B is all sorts of fun.


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Re: the thought of people taking ecstacy now makes me feel sick [Re: muistrue]
    #14280509 - 04/12/11 09:11 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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MDA + 2C-B is all sorts of fun.




Now 2C-B is something I'd give my left nut to try.

Where do you find all this stuff man? :sad:


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Re: the thought of people taking ecstacy now makes me feel sick [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14280521 - 04/12/11 09:13 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I'd also like to try 2c-b. Its a shame they scheduled it.

AMT is another one I really fucking want to try


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Re: the thought of people taking ecstacy now makes me feel sick [Re: propensity]
    #14280529 - 04/12/11 09:13 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I'd also like to try 2c-b. Its a shame they scheduled it.

AMT is another one I really fucking want to try




Me too dude. AMT sounds amazing.


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Re: the thought of people taking ecstacy now makes me feel sick [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14280540 - 04/12/11 09:15 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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MDA + 2C-B is all sorts of fun.




Now 2C-B is something I'd give my left nut to try.

Where do you find all this stuff man? :sad:




It just tends to find me man it's a mystery.


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