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Re: Organic Certification [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #14288416 - 04/14/11 04:11 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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We just got our final state organic inspection and passed with no issues.  What a great feeling this is, after 2 years of construction and planning!  When I get time, I'll try to write an article about all the hoops that had to be jumped through to make it happen. 

I had to file over 20 pages of forms and other paperwork, $700 in fees, plus this final inspection.  They say it should take about a week to get our certificate in the mail, and then we can advertise our mushrooms and substrate blocks, etc., as "Certified Organic by the Washington State Department of Agriculture".  Woot!
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That just made my morning :smile:

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Re: Organic Certification [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #14288481 - 04/14/11 04:59 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Nice going RR! I hope you and the Mrs had a party to celebrate.


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Re: Organic Certification [Re: waixingren]
    #14288624 - 04/14/11 06:40 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

:congrats: Congratulations RR.


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Re: Organic Certification [Re: Toni L]
    #14289575 - 04/14/11 11:39 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Congrats !

You mentioned 2 years planning? Was this intentional? Why 2 years?


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Re: Organic Certification [Re: ife]
    #14290211 - 04/14/11 01:52 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Congratulations are in order RR.  I know that Washington state is harder to get certified in than quite a few states.  Way to stick to it.  :smile:


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Re: Organic Certification [Re: Alkaloids]
    #14291253 - 04/14/11 04:44 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Congrats RR, way to stick with it!


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Re: Organic Certification [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #14294438 - 04/15/11 07:46 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Awsomeo!!:thumbup:


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Re: Organic Certification [Re: ife]
    #14294496 - 04/15/11 08:17 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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ife said:
Congrats !

You mentioned 2 years planning? Was this intentional? Why 2 years?




We broke ground on our mushroom farm construction 2 years before we got our organic certification.  Our small, mom-and-pop mushroom farm was laid out and designed from day one for the organic certification system plan that I submitted. There are requirements for separating organic from non-organic production and materials, and to prevent cross-contamination with non-organic and/or prohibited materials, and this extends even to the ventilation system.

Many existing farms don't meet the ventilation requirements or may have prohibited construction materials which would prevent certification.  It's important to know before beginning construction what your eventual goals are.
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Re: Organic Certification [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #14301993 - 04/16/11 04:29 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

:highfive:


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Re: Organic Certification [Re: mister]
    #14329748 - 04/21/11 08:09 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Nice!

Blessings on your grows and business. Spread the Love of the Fungi kingdom :grin:


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Re: Organic Certification [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #14331919 - 04/22/11 06:33 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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They say it should take about a week to get our certificate in the mail, and then we can advertise our mushrooms and substrate blocks, etc., as "Certified Organic by the Washington State Department of Agriculture".





Amen, RogerRabbit.  I'm so happy and proud of you!  :highfive:


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It's time to get to making money for a change instead of the last two years of spending it.





I know exactly what you mean with this statement.  You gotta' spend money to make money.  Being that that's the case, IMHE, what goes around, comes around.  You'v been paying all these dues for the last couple of years.  Your sheer dedication to the hobby is bound to manifest some positive destiny your direction for the years to come.


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Re: Organic Certification [Re: hamloaf]
    #14480054 - 05/19/11 06:06 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Well, it took six weeks after the final inspection, but the paperwork arrived today.  It's now official!
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Re: Organic Certification [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #14480306 - 05/19/11 06:47 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Congratulations. Thank you for choosing to be a pure grower.

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Re: Organic Certification [Re: OneU]
    #14480546 - 05/19/11 07:38 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

@RR

With organic certification, what types of cleaning products are you able to use?  Sterilising alcohols? Bleaches? No more soaps in your soak?  Do you ever need to clean your grow space? Remove molds etc?


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Re: Organic Certification [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #14481223 - 05/19/11 09:36 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Well, it took six weeks after the final inspection, but the paperwork arrived today.  It's now official!
RR





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Re: Organic Certification [Re: NSF]
    #14481764 - 05/19/11 11:16 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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@RR

With organic certification, what types of cleaning products are you able to use?  Sterilising alcohols? Bleaches? No more soaps in your soak?  Do you ever need to clean your grow space? Remove molds etc?




Bleach is allowed to clean areas, but not on or near substrates.  I can spray out the growroom when empty with bleach.  I've only needed to once in the last two years.  Alcohol is fine for lab work.  If I used soap in the soaks, it would have to be organic certified soap.
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Re: Organic Certification [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #14483350 - 05/20/11 08:37 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

How about plastic spawn bags... are they legit?  My local organic certifiers website is pretty uninformative.


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Re: Organic Certification [Re: aris]
    #14483450 - 05/20/11 09:18 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Lol will your customers be eating plastic?  The spawn bags are just containers and as such I don't think they are regulated against.


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Re: Organic Certification [Re: aris]
    #14483461 - 05/20/11 09:22 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Yes.  There's nothing to stop you from using spawn bags. The part of the USDA regs that cover mushroom farms are only a few paragraphs.  However, the rest of the standard also applies, regarding prohibited materials and practices. 

The organic standard also requires you to constantly be making the soil improve, rather than degrade or remain the same.  Putting spent substrates back into nature's food chain fits the bill perfectly.  It would be nice if someone would develop biodegradable bags which could stand up to the autoclave.
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Re: Organic Certification [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #14492612 - 05/22/11 03:44 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Congratulations,
but please tell us the benefits of full concrete grow room. What are the downs of growing in modified metal seacontainer?


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