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Not much of a garden.
#14102887 - 03/11/11 08:37 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Not much of a garden but I do love the view.  You can see how dry it is here, I need to engineer this to hold water quickly when there's rain or snow. Plan is to enrich the soil using coir/verm/gypsum, which I'll decompose using fungus in 6qt shoeboxes.
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Re: Not much of a garden. [Re: Doc_T]
#14103214 - 03/11/11 10:09 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Take what you got and make it work! Love the view!
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Re: Not much of a garden. [Re: Doc_T]
#14107733 - 03/12/11 07:35 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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small spaces can work well and provide a lot more than you expect, my suggestion is to get a rain barrel, a 55 gallon drum on a stand, run you a gutter along the front and allow the gutter to drain into the barrel
fr planting, there's plenty of plants that work really well together, tomato and basil for instance, the basil actually improves the flavor of the tomatoes, toss in a few carrots which will pull nutrients from deeper in the soil and allow the tomatoes to feed a little better, plant bell peppers near them and inter plant that with onions, for some reason the things that go well in a salad grow pretty well together
as the tomatoes start to develop, pluck off the first to start, the second blooming is always better, more prolific and better quality
squashes/melons, beans and corn as well, plant the corn in 6" spacing and plant a couple of beans with them, no need for trellises because the beans use the corn and being nitrogen fixers they benefit the corn, of course this isnt an immediate benefit, it only comes after the beans die off, regardless, pick the beans before they're ripe or they stop producing. the squash will help the soil retain moisture... keep your corn as far from your tomatoes as possible
to aid in moisture retention as well as nutrients, plant clover, clover is another nitrogen fixer and in addition they shade the ground from the sun and attract bees which will help with pollination, they also help to deter aphids... if you cant find clover seed, lemme know, I have some to spare. regardless, plant everything densely, it'll help to smother out the weeds and cut down on your gardening work
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Re: Not much of a garden. [Re: Prisoner#1]
#14107795 - 03/12/11 08:01 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said: my suggestion is to get a rain barrel, a 55 gallon drum on a stand, run you a gutter along the front and allow the gutter to drain into the barrel
This would be seriously illegal. You have to bury the barrel so nobody sees it, and I don't have a bobcat.
I am planning a fountain/water feature which will have a large reservoir though. 
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keep your corn as far from your tomatoes as possible
No foolin'? Why?
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small spaces can work well and provide a lot more than you expect,
Completely agree. I'm going to dig this out the whole length of the house, but half or more will be wildflower mix this year. I'm planning mostly herbs and small stuff for the practical plants. Garlic, hot peppers. Cilantro.
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Re: Not much of a garden. [Re: Doc_T]
#14107937 - 03/12/11 08:52 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said: my suggestion is to get a rain barrel, a 55 gallon drum on a stand, run you a gutter along the front and allow the gutter to drain into the barrel
This would be seriously illegal.
rain barrels are illegal in the state of stupor?
I just googled it, how totally gay, someone needs to sue the state for monopolizing on retardation
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keep your corn as far from your tomatoes as possible
No foolin'? Why?
pests, corn ear worms and tomato worms are closely related and keeping them close together could invite both pests in, some other plants like potatoes, kholrabi and brassicas can cause other problems with tomato growth, usually with disease or stunted growth
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I'm going to dig this out the whole length of the house, but half or more will be wildflower mix this year. I'm planning mostly herbs and small stuff for the practical plants. Garlic, hot peppers. Cilantro.
actually those flowers are beneficial for a food garden as well, four o clocks kill off japanese beetles which love the plants, nastursiums attract aphids and other harmful pests, once the plant is covered you pull it up and burn the plant, and they secrete enzymes which can stimulate growth of other plants
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Re: Not much of a garden. [Re: Prisoner#1]
#14107957 - 03/12/11 08:59 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I don't think Colorado has a monopoly on that. (We do however have dispensaries, I guess that's cool.)
Water law goes back before this was a state, when you could be killed for stealing water. Water is life out here. The city is here because of water, it's right there in the name of the place. It's true for everybody, but we are at the heart of it all and live it daily.
That snow in the pic above^^^, lots and lots of people are going to drink that between here and the Gulf of Mexico.
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Re: Not much of a garden. [Re: Doc_T]
#14108320 - 03/12/11 11:02 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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you know that fish pee in that stuff you're drinking
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Re: Not much of a garden. [Re: Prisoner#1]
#14108399 - 03/12/11 11:18 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Stuff I drink is filtered through a couple miles of granite. You should taste the water here, it's soooo good. Our tap water is better than some peoples' bottled water.
Of course, we get more cancer at this altitude. It's a tradeoff. A delicious, quenching tradeoff.
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Re: Not much of a garden. [Re: Doc_T]
#14110356 - 03/12/11 06:13 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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your water may compare to mine, mine is spring water from an artesian aquifer, it's untreated... best municipal water ever, we actually pipe it to a few bottling plants, when Alton Brown did his show on water, this was the place he chose to shoot it
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Re: Not much of a garden. [Re: Prisoner#1]
#14187392 - 03/26/11 03:28 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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you guys are lucky, water in FL tastes like the swamp just farted an egg.
Peat moss is really good for water retention... that and a bag of cow manure compost and you'll be a-okay.
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Re: Not much of a garden. [Re: Prisoner#1]
#14256553 - 04/08/11 12:16 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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rain barrels are illegal? seems odd.
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Re: Not much of a garden. [Re: shubrick]
#14257251 - 04/08/11 06:53 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Trust me when I say that the water in Doc_T's area is better than 90% of bottled waters out there. It also comes out of the tap at roughly 40* pretty consistently.
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Re: Not much of a garden. [Re: Sillicybin]
#14257296 - 04/08/11 07:10 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yes, rain barrels are "water diversion", a very serious crime in this area.
We hang horse thieves, but water thieves... you don't want to know.
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Re: Not much of a garden. [Re: Doc_T]
#14258236 - 04/08/11 12:04 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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lol... can't be stealing water from the sky!
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Re: Not much of a garden. [Re: dummy]
#14274275 - 04/11/11 07:00 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Herbs and garden plants sound good for that climate,with a little help.
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Re: Not much of a garden. [Re: riptorn]
#14276754 - 04/12/11 07:13 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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dig up all the top soil, lay down heavy plastic, layer gravel, heavy retention compost(peat as well)then replace top soil. if you use the 55g barrel as a compost barrel, just leave lid off to collect water into the compost, then drain off the water from bottom of barrel, compost piss, works wonders, the other thing is a clear or translucent roof over your garden, to retain moisture and gather dew.
iam a world away in the water wonderland, so i dont realy have the issue.
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Re: Not much of a garden. [Re: trigger]
#14314950 - 04/19/11 12:05 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Looks like the same environment I'm in. You might want to check out hotbox composters, also worm composting works well as long as you keep it in a shaded area so it doesn't bake the little wrigglers.
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Re: Not much of a garden. [Re: Doc_T]
#14315456 - 04/19/11 02:16 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Good thread you two, learned allot about how its illegal to harvest rainwater in colorado.
Kind of like in texas, if two trains meet at an intersection, both must stop and neither can proceed until the other has passed.
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Re: Not much of a garden. [Re: Psychoslut]
#14315800 - 04/19/11 06:21 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Completely unlike that law. Water diversion is murder.
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Re: Not much of a garden. [Re: Doc_T]
#14315851 - 04/19/11 06:56 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Doc_T said: Not much of a garden but I do love the view.  You can see how dry it is here, I need to engineer this to hold water quickly when there's rain or snow. Plan is to enrich the soil using coir/verm/gypsum, which I'll decompose using fungus in 6qt shoeboxes.

Yeah, nice view!
Did you climb to the top yet?
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