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Re: Chicago Schools banning homemade lunches... [Re: Shroomerette]
#14277827 - 04/12/11 12:49 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'm a lunch lady in a school cafeteria. Every district in every state is different. They may have to meet a sodium or fat guideline, but what they serve is kinda up to them. If my manager wants to try something new, she just has to come up with a recipe that meets grain/protein/fruit or veggie requirement while also keeping it under a certain number for sodium/calories/fat. We recently made a sandwich similar to a Zaxby's sandwich with texas toast, chicken tenders, mozzarella, and marinara. Most, if not all of the cheese we use is made with low fat or skim milk. We have a product called Butter Buds that adds a butter flavor with 0 fat, 0 calories, and 0 sodium (don't want to really know how they can do that...) but it tastes fine. Just like butter. Our elementary schools have a fresh fruit and veggie program that gives the children a wide variety of fruits and veggies every afternoon. Every child gets a (free) snack. I'm not saying this crap isn't processed, and our chicken sandwiches come frozen. But it's decent food. I eat it 5 days a week. All that being said...whatever a parent and/or child chooses to eat is their right and I don't want to make that much food in a day! Let 'em bring their own crap!
All that shit downing chocolate or strawberry milk, well that's just crazy. The kids would have to eat more food to make up for vitamins and nutrients you get from drinking milk. Some kids hate white milk. I'd rather them get the calcium and vitamins (and the sugar) from our 1% chocolate milk, that have it omitted from the meal completely. I just get heated sometimes because people don't realize it's really different everywhere you go. My mom has worked in the School Food Service for 20 years and I've been with them for 4. (Sorry for the long post guys!)
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Re: Chicago Schools banning homemade lunches... [Re: Shroomerette]
#14277846 - 04/12/11 12:53 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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When I was a kid, all the school lunch fuckin' blew. Tasted like metal and grease. The cheese was obviously old on the pizza..the tomato sauce was shitty as fuck too.
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Re: Chicago Schools banning homemade lunches... [Re: Moronicus]
#14277951 - 04/12/11 01:12 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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It is absurd to ban homemade school lunches. This is yet another way the government is trying to CONTROL the population. Bullshit.
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Re: Chicago Schools banning homemade lunches... [Re: dshow]
#14278127 - 04/12/11 01:48 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Doc_T said: Link to source story?
Oops I thought I put a link, I'll edit original post with it in a minute when I find it again.
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Re: Chicago Schools banning homemade lunches... [Re: Shroomerette]
#14278218 - 04/12/11 02:05 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Fuck school lunches... Tomato, cheese n mayo sandwiches, crisps, banana and fruit slice is all I needed in school.
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Re: Chicago Schools banning homemade lunches... [Re: mongo lloyd]
#14278241 - 04/12/11 02:11 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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wow this is retarded. like the kids can't go home and eat a bunch of shit, unless they plan on controlling that too.
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Re: Chicago Schools banning homemade lunches... [Re: uber_aj]
#14283683 - 04/13/11 12:35 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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uber_aj said: I think banning homemade lunches is a good thing, especially in Chicago, where lots of parents are poor minorities who let their kids have KFC and grape soda for lunch.
you cant buy KFC with food stamps, where are they getting the money to send their kids to school with fast food
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Re: Chicago Schools banning homemade lunches... [Re: Prisoner#1]
#14283697 - 04/13/11 12:37 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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uber_aj said: I think banning homemade lunches is a good thing, especially in Chicago, where lots of parents are poor minorities who let their kids have KFC and grape soda for lunch.
you cant buy KFC with food stamps, where are they getting the money to send their kids to school with fast food
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Re: Chicago Schools banning homemade lunches... [Re: Normal Flora]
#14283963 - 04/13/11 01:27 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Laurelei said: All that shit downing chocolate or strawberry milk, well that's just crazy. The kids would have to eat more food to make up for vitamins and nutrients you get from drinking milk. Some kids hate white milk. I'd rather them get the calcium and vitamins (and the sugar) from our 1% chocolate milk, that have it omitted from the meal completely.
not only do kids get the sugars from the milk in the form of lactose but they get an additional 5 teaspoons of sugar in each of those little cartons, 25 grams of sugar in all, doubling what 1% milk contains yes, the nutritional value of added sugar is so important, no wonder the kids love it
they fortify milk with various vitamins, they enrich breads with many other vitamins and nutrients, just read the package on those sheet pizza, all kinds of extra crap is added and shitloads of sodium, the TVP patties they call burgers contain as much calcium as the milk
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Re: Chicago Schools banning homemade lunches... [Re: ROFL_my_ WAFFLE]
#14283977 - 04/13/11 01:28 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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uber_aj said: I think banning homemade lunches is a good thing, especially in Chicago, where lots of parents are poor minorities who let their kids have KFC and grape soda for lunch.
you cant buy KFC with food stamps, where are they getting the money to send their kids to school with fast food
Selling meth. 
meth reduces the incidence of obesity, maybe they should include it on the school lunch menu
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Re: Chicago Schools banning homemade lunches... [Re: Prisoner#1]
#14293190 - 04/14/11 10:40 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Laurelei said: All that shit downing chocolate or strawberry milk, well that's just crazy. The kids would have to eat more food to make up for vitamins and nutrients you get from drinking milk. Some kids hate white milk. I'd rather them get the calcium and vitamins (and the sugar) from our 1% chocolate milk, that have it omitted from the meal completely.
not only do kids get the sugars from the milk in the form of lactose but they get an additional 5 teaspoons of sugar in each of those little cartons, 25 grams of sugar in all, doubling what 1% milk contains yes, the nutritional value of added sugar is so important, no wonder the kids love it
they fortify milk with various vitamins, they enrich breads with many other vitamins and nutrients, just read the package on those sheet pizza, all kinds of extra crap is added and shitloads of sodium, the TVP patties they call burgers contain as much calcium as the milk
Our half pint 1% has 22g of sugar ( 3grams is 3 grams! right...?) but no seriously, it is high, I agree. At the end of each school year there's an abundance of white milk, so about the last 2 or 3 weeks of school, we don't sell chocolate. I notice a lot of kids either buying 2 OJs instead of a usual milk and juice, or coming through the line with sodas, gatorade(or something similar), and the most popular...drum roll please! energy drinks! Although I see energy drinks throughout the whole year.
I agree with the statement about our pizzas. Again, every school district is different in what type they serve, but our pizzas have something like 700mg of sodium per slice! That's just crazy. It does provide 468 IU Vitamin A and 264mg of calcium, so I don't know if they consider it a fair trade...but people would look at the sodium number and freak.
The burgers we have only provide 4.4 mg of calcium, whereas our milk provides 300mg. The burgers have 260mg of sodium, which is great compared to the pizza.
Not trying to be argumentative, I've just been close to the school food system growing up. I really love my job and I've had at least one student tell me that it's the only full meal they get regularly. I feel responsible for providing a meal that's BALANCED in nutrition, quality, and taste. It seems hard to provide all three in the way everyone wants them. A group over here wants little-to-no fats or sodium. There's a group over here that is concerned with the food being processed or artificial. And then we have kids bitching about the taste. So, it's really hard to decide what stays and what goes
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Re: Chicago Schools banning homemade lunches... [Re: Normal Flora]
#14293243 - 04/14/11 10:52 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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hmmm when I was in High School I spent all my lunch money on weed anyways. thanks mom and dad. I went to like 4 different High Schools and only 2 of them had a traditional cafeteria, but even then there were other options like student-run cafe's and off-campus lunch etc.
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Re: Chicago Schools banning homemade lunches... [Re: Great Scott]
#14293259 - 04/14/11 10:55 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I don't understand how they can take normal ingredients and make food that tastes so bland. At my high school and junior high, the food just tasted awful and bland. Even the french fries were horrible, I can take a potato quarter it and throw it in the oven with some oil drizzled on it and come out with way better fries.
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Re: Chicago Schools banning homemade lunches... [Re: pmb]
#14293321 - 04/14/11 11:07 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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pmb said: I don't understand how they can take normal ingredients and make food that tastes so bland. At my high school and junior high, the food just tasted awful and bland. Even the french fries were horrible, I can take a potato quarter it and throw it in the oven with some oil drizzled on it and come out with way better fries.
yeah, everything in there tastes SO processed
i wouldnt doubt it if they were just heating up TV dinners in mass quantities, i lived right across my elementary school, so i would just sneak out and run across the street, especially when I forgot my homework/parent signature for a field trip
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Re: Chicago Schools banning homemade lunches... [Re: Moronicus]
#14293351 - 04/14/11 11:14 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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that looks like hamster food wtf is that a free sample at stop n shop
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Re: Chicago Schools banning homemade lunches... [Re: Moronicus]
#14293354 - 04/14/11 11:15 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I think banning homemade lunches is a good thing, especially in Chicago, where lots of parents are poor minorities who let their kids have KFC and grape soda for lunch. Also you never know, they might bake marijuana in the treats, effectively putting all the children in jeopardy. If you give them an inch, they'll take a mile.
this guy is obviously trolling. Otherwise he would be a
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Re: Chicago Schools banning homemade lunches... [Re: dshow]
#14293369 - 04/14/11 11:19 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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id actually eat that stuff now that i look at it but whats up with the cheese slices lol
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Re: Chicago Schools banning homemade lunches... [Re: Konyap]
#14293377 - 04/14/11 11:22 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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how do you play sports there anyway if you only have that for lunch
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Re: Chicago Schools banning homemade lunches... [Re: Konyap]
#14293463 - 04/14/11 11:47 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Their just afraid that kids bring too many drugs in their lunches, which is true. I used to bring all kind of cannabutter laced goodness and share .
This shit is messed up, they are taking this war on consciousness too far; there is only one way to fight back, with violence
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Re: Chicago Schools banning homemade lunches... [Re: Normal Flora]
#14293491 - 04/14/11 11:56 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Laurelei said: Our half pint 1% has 22g of sugar ( 3grams is 3 grams! right...?) but no seriously, it is high, I agree. At the end of each school year there's an abundance of white milk, so about the last 2 or 3 weeks of school, we don't sell chocolate. I notice a lot of kids either buying 2 OJs instead of a usual milk and juice, or coming through the line with sodas, gatorade(or something similar), and the most popular...drum roll please! energy drinks! Although I see energy drinks throughout the whole year.
3 grams is 3 grams but 22 grams is still a shitload but now what I find even more shocking is the gatorade, soft drinks and energy drinks, I challenge you to find me a nutritionist that says any of those is a healthy part of a balanced diet, I can show you many that will say these things can lead to obesity, they really have no place int he schools
as for the milk, offer the kids something with double the sugar as regular milk and they'll take it most of the time, if the school year starts without the flavored milks I guarantee the milk sales will start higher and remain high throughout the year
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The burgers we have only provide 4.4 mg of calcium, whereas our milk provides 300mg. The burgers have 260mg of sodium, which is great compared to the pizza.
add cheese and you have 600mg of sodium, add in the bun and you kick it up another 200mg so you're almost back to the level of the pizza and a an normal amount of salt in a diet is between 1000mg-2500mg
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Not trying to be argumentative, I've just been close to the school food system growing up. I really love my job and I've had at least one student tell me that it's the only full meal they get regularly. I feel responsible for providing a meal that's BALANCED in nutrition, quality, and taste.
no one is arguing, this is friendly discussion and the fact that you actually work in the industry is fantastic because it gives an inside look, one of my biggest problems is that so much of the dietary guidelines are put together and provided for by the packing industry, they lobby the FDA to make their foods available, as was stated it's about the $$$
I certainly cant trust Zartic or AdvancePierre foods to sell me the food and tell me they're really looking out for my health especially when neither will list ingredients, processes or nutritional contents of their products on their website and most of the hundreds of suppliers will supply the information unless you're buying their products, it's on the labels
I've done more reading on the topic since I last posted and I see things like sauces where 3 of the top 5 ingredients are sugar, brown sugar, corn solids, corn syrup, HFCS, sugar in some manner, I mean an all beef kosher hot dog who's ingredients are listed as "beef, water, sugar, potassium lactate, dextros (sugar), sodium nitrate, sodium diacetate, sodium erythorbate"... so much for all beef or macaroni and cheese that has 1300mg of sodium, add that up with the other stuff on the tray and it puts a kid into the high end of the sodium scale, mashed potatoes with 1700mg of sodium in those potato pearls and then the hydrogenated oils and other crap
when I was in school the food was cooked on the premises, most was still packaged foods like the potatos, fries, pizza and stuff, now I'm seeing prewrapped microwave junk like the uncrustables cheese or PB&J sandwiches, cases of pancakes, etc... I understand the short cuts due to budget and time constraints, a triple size commercial kitchen set to feed 800 hungry kids in a couple of sittings, it's an all day job and then some but the feds have put into place regulations that shouldnt be there that locks them into a group of suppliers that care about the steady dollar not the health of my kids
my kids BTW, fresh meals every night, all made from scratch including the pasta, breads and anything else they're served, my waffles and pancakes start with flour, eggs, baking powder and milk. there's no TV dinners and the only reason there's a microwave is because it was included, I use it to heat water occasionally... overall I dont have an issue with the school lunches, I can see some reasons for improvements but I'm not going to try and convince myself that they're any healthier than any other pre packaged food I can buy in the freezer section because they're pretty much the same, my problem is when a school decides to ban something parents send to school in order to combat obesity when the school lunch provides the same chances for that to happen, it tells me that someone at the school is getting kickbacks from the vendors... and since the school in question is in chicago, ask me if I'd be surprised by that
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