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Phanodude
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Re: MMT Start-Finish (Start Phase) With Pics! [Re: Phanodude]
#14262467 - 04/09/11 10:21 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Well i've still got no pins and the room its in has absolutely no airflow in it at all. I think this may be a problem. I've been using the lid to fan untill i can buy a fan for the back room.
The garbage bag i believe is interfering with airflow so tomorrow before i go to work ima going to trim the bag, restuff with loose polyfill and purchase a fan to leave on in the room. Thoughts?
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Re: MMT Start-Finish (Start Phase) [Re: Phanodude]
#14262816 - 04/09/11 11:58 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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assuredly, no airflow is not a good thing, but if you are manually fanning 5+ times a day, you will hopefully still encourage evaporation. after you get your fan, it's recommended you leave it on 24/7 on the far-side room, opposite your FC.
only day 5 though on fruiting conditions, right? sometimes it takes a bit longer. don't worry until you get to day 8-10 IMO. even then, I'm sure there are cases where pins don't show for weeks.
I think this is why it's encouraged we let the substrate consolidate for a couple days, and up to a week, after 100% colonization. Let them tell us when to move to fruiting, rather than the other way around.
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Re: MMT Start-Finish (Start Phase) [Re: Primal Call]
#14263018 - 04/09/11 12:54 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Can tempuratures around 19-20 degrees slow pinning substantially?
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Re: MMT Start-Finish (Start Phase) [Re: Fryer Mike]
#14263586 - 04/09/11 03:54 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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it will slow everything in that range, but some actually prefer temps that cold because it makes for denser fruits and further discourages contaminate growth. I've read of someone fruiting as low as 58F/14.5C. I like to stay around 65-70F/18-21C. Here's some fruits from this range, and those stems are quite dense if the pictures don't show it.
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Re: MMT Start-Finish (Start Phase) [Re: Primal Call]
#14264862 - 04/09/11 11:06 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: MMT Start-Finish (Start Phase) [Re: Phanodude]
#14275729 - 04/11/11 11:36 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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cyantific said: i wouldnt call it shock so much as "sudden trigger introduction" ... one thing we can all agree on is that light falls somewhere between the 4th and 5th tier in regards to pinning triggers ... consolidation , FAE , loss of moisture / transpiration , temperature drop , being the unanimous forerunners ... each one of those triggers are only present in its life cycle during the fruiting stage ... light is indeed a pinning trigger , this is we can all agree on ... so doesn't it stand to reason that if you want to maximize a "trigger" you would treat it as a "trigger" and not a constant aspect of its life cycle ?
idk ... this has always been my reasoning ... and i have within the last couple years , since this was brought up more in the forums , done some side by side and noticed my subs being much more responsive to lighting when using the darkened jars and tubs ... this goes for length of time before pinning , and overall area of pinning and the even timing of the pins growth with the rest of the grow ...
but all that said its never conclusive enough to make a concrete call on it ... it would take many control groups to do that successfully ... but i truly do believe turning one of your triggers into an ambient constant of its life cycle only helps to take away that benefit when it comes to fruiting time ... measured against an almost imperceptible colonization benefit , i just think saving the light and its trigger benefits for fruiting is the way to go 
I know alot of people have been doing away w/ the bag, but this is my thinking on it also. I mean, it makes complete logical sense to me. I haven't done a tub w/o the bag yet so I can't say one way or the other, but in cultivation, weather it be plants or mushies, the grower tries to mimic nature as close as possible... and myc is underground, in the dark. I still keep my jars in the dark though, I notice that they start to fruit invitro whenever I don't.
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Phanodude said: Well i've still got no pins and the room its in has absolutely no airflow in it at all. I think this may be a problem. I've been using the lid to fan untill i can buy a fan for the back room.
The garbage bag i believe is interfering with airflow so tomorrow before i go to work ima going to trim the bag, restuff with loose polyfill and purchase a fan to leave on in the room. Thoughts?
You definitely need FAE, for 2 reasons: evaporation and to circulate the air to remove the buildup of CO2 Also, as Ryath already mentioned, PATIENCE!
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