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Raw human emotion
    #14275455 - 04/11/11 10:35 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Most emotion nowadays is clouded by selfish desire, melodrama, the media portraying how one should act, etc. no one really actually KNOWS anyone else. were all strangers. we only know what weve already seen: crying over spilt milk is the coming of age philosophy only spilt milk is that cell phone you didnt get for xmas, or that boy who doesnt know you exist. happyness is falsly associated with money and 10000000+ channels of HDTV.
  The only way of getting to know people is by makeing them snap. bashing them with the things that hurt them most. getting under their skin and ripping it out (in a metaphorical sense only!) until they snap in a fit of rage, or sadness, or this could be reversed to make them snap with happyness, or maybe shame. whatever, it is their reaction to the mind blowing, ego killing, face smashing words that i encourage you to tell people. This is raw human emotion. EDIT: this is not the only way of getting to know people. i wrote this after dealing with a very quiet apathetic person who this literally is the only way of getting to know this person. Everything else i wrote i still believe.
  START A REVOLUTION! Shake the foundations of "reality" that everyone is living in! Destroy your TV, smash your cell phone. Delete your facebook. Go outside without shoes. quit thinking about things. buy at local thrift stores and garage sales. save your money. only buy what you need. entertainment is beautiful and fun when it is not mindless. creative entertainment sharpens the mind. Draw! paint! take a walk! read a book! WRITE a book! learn an instrument! discover new music! LOVE EACH OTHER!


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Re: Raw human emotion [Re: Kingkuper] * 1
    #14275474 - 04/11/11 10:39 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

OK!!!!! I'M FUCKING AMPEDDDDDDD
EXCUSE ME WHILE I SMASH THIS THING I PAID MONEY FOR! YARRRRRR


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Re: Raw human emotion [Re: Kickle]
    #14275488 - 04/11/11 10:41 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Haha i know your joking and its funny, but im actually serious... weather you think its silly or not :smile:


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Re: Raw human emotion [Re: Kingkuper]
    #14275522 - 04/11/11 10:46 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

to some extent I think it's silly
to some extent I think it's great
that's the problem with my raw human emotion, it sends conflicting messages
you may have only one way and that's GO, but that isn't so for everyone

Life will never be carefree and unified no matter how many revolutions happen


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Re: Raw human emotion [Re: Kickle]
    #14275538 - 04/11/11 10:49 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Not in america it wont.


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Re: Raw human emotion [Re: Kingkuper]
    #14275542 - 04/11/11 10:49 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

which is where i live


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Re: Raw human emotion [Re: Kingkuper]
    #14275554 - 04/11/11 10:51 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

there is no evidence that it is carefree and united anywhere at any point


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Re: Raw human emotion [Re: Kickle]
    #14275567 - 04/11/11 10:52 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

yeah i know. im just saying and you hafta agree somewhat. america is pretty much the leading cause of what im saying.


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Re: Raw human emotion [Re: Kingkuper]
    #14275571 - 04/11/11 10:54 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

to some extent I think it's great


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Re: Raw human emotion [Re: Kickle]
    #14275582 - 04/11/11 10:55 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

The idea behind it is great.


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Re: Raw human emotion [Re: Kingkuper]
    #14275620 - 04/11/11 11:03 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

i agree with the ideology, but i find it inapplicable. in today's society, you won't have a life without being a conformist. money has become the universal scale of human worth. accordingly, society has put a price tag on all of us. you can either play its little game, or scrounge for pennies on the street.


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Re: Raw human emotion [Re: meatcakeman]
    #14275631 - 04/11/11 11:06 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

this i also agree with. another senario (although HIGHLY unlikely) is if everyone stopped "playing the game" at the same time.


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Re: Raw human emotion [Re: Kingkuper]
    #14275646 - 04/11/11 11:11 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

if only you could somehow make everyone in the world trip major balls on DMT, SHROOMS, or ACID at the same time....  :laugh:


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Re: Raw human emotion [Re: Kingkuper]
    #14275654 - 04/11/11 11:15 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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if only you could somehow make everyone in the world trip major balls on DMT, SHROOMS, or ACID at the same time....  :laugh:




Tripping sack doesn't automatically turn you altruistic.

Counter example is simple, I've been out there as far as anyone and I still don't believe altruism exists.


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Re: Raw human emotion [Re: Kingkuper]
    #14275666 - 04/11/11 11:19 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Most emotion nowadays is clouded by selfish desire, melodrama, the media portraying how one should act, etc. no one really actually KNOWS anyone else. were all strangers. we only know what weve already seen: crying over spilt milk is the coming of age philosophy only spilt milk is that cell phone you didnt get for xmas, or that boy who doesnt know you exist. happyness is falsly associated with money and 10000000+ channels of HDTV.




If it's real to anyone else, is it real?


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The only way of getting to know people is by makeing them snap.




I've found that sharing people's pleasures and pains over the years helps you get to know someone as well as I think is possible. It feels real to me.  In relation to my first question, if I've been through weddings and funerals with someone, laughed and cried with them, how am I a stranger to them? I've shared their deepest thoughts, shared years. How does this anti-capitalist screed make any of that invalid?

I'm going to write off the next paragraph (maybe you should use paragraphs next time, actually) as writing with "raw human emotion," and not any practical plan of action.

The following is decent advice, but none of it requires the radical changes in attitude you were talking about earlier.

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START A REVOLUTION! Shake the foundations of "reality" that everyone is living in! Destroy your TV, smash your cell phone. Delete your facebook. Go outside without shoes. quit thinking about things. buy at local thrift stores and garage sales. save your money. only buy what you need. entertainment is beautiful and fun when it is not mindless. creative entertainment sharpens the mind. Draw! paint! take a walk! read a book! WRITE a book! learn an instrument! discover new music! LOVE EACH OTHER!




It's possible to do all of these things without the beliefs you listed earlier, the former doesn't follow from the latter at all.


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Re: Raw human emotion [Re: Kid_Orgo]
    #14275677 - 04/11/11 11:23 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

altruism is like not caring about yourself and only careing about the benefit of others. thats not quite the point im trying to deliver.  im not trying to tell everyone to be altrustic, im telling everyone to let go of reality as we know it now. im basically attempting to destroy materialism is one shroomery thread. :laugh:


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Re: Raw human emotion [Re: Kingkuper]
    #14275689 - 04/11/11 11:25 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Well, getting my psyche leveled by drugs didn't cause me to let go of reality either. It made me appreciate concrete things, like pride in being a professional and pride in taking care of my family. Those things are definitely part of "reality as we know it."

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altruism is like not caring about yourself and only careing about the benefit of others. thats not quite the point im trying to deliver.  im not trying to tell everyone to be altrustic, im telling everyone to let go of reality as we know it now. im basically attempting to destroy materialism is one shroomery thread. :laugh:




I think you might be in the wrong forum, then. This is where we debate things.

I'm not shitting down your chimney, it's just that this is sounding awfully nebulous.


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Re: Raw human emotion [Re: Kid_Orgo]
    #14275699 - 04/11/11 11:28 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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The following is decent advice, but none of it requires the radical changes in attitude you were talking about earlier.

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START A REVOLUTION! Shake the foundations of "reality" that everyone is living in! Destroy your TV, smash your cell phone. Delete your facebook. Go outside without shoes. quit thinking about things. buy at local thrift stores and garage sales. save your money. only buy what you need. entertainment is beautiful and fun when it is not mindless. creative entertainment sharpens the mind. Draw! paint! take a walk! read a book! WRITE a book! learn an instrument! discover new music! LOVE EACH OTHER!




It's possible to do all of these things without the beliefs you listed earlier, the former doesn't follow from the latter at all.




yeah i know that part was a little random. my mind jumps different topics alot.


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Re: Raw human emotion [Re: Kid_Orgo]
    #14275704 - 04/11/11 11:30 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Quote:

Kingkuper said:
altruism is like not caring about yourself and only careing about the benefit of others. thats not quite the point im trying to deliver.  im not trying to tell everyone to be altrustic, im telling everyone to let go of reality as we know it now. im basically attempting to destroy materialism is one shroomery thread. :laugh:




I think you might be in the wrong forum, then. This is where we debate things.

I'm not shitting down your chimney, it's just that this is sounding awfully nebulous.




no trust me i do want a debate. but my debate is over how materialism is destroying true emotion. not altruism.


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Re: Raw human emotion [Re: Kingkuper]
    #14275716 - 04/11/11 11:32 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Kingkuper said:
Quote:

Kid_Orgo said:


Quote:

Kingkuper said:
altruism is like not caring about yourself and only careing about the benefit of others. thats not quite the point im trying to deliver.  im not trying to tell everyone to be altrustic, im telling everyone to let go of reality as we know it now. im basically attempting to destroy materialism is one shroomery thread. :laugh:




I think you might be in the wrong forum, then. This is where we debate things.

I'm not shitting down your chimney, it's just that this is sounding awfully nebulous.




no trust me i do want a debate. but my debate is over how materialism is destroying true emotion. not altruism.




materialism is not the downfall of true human emotion. humanity is the downfall of true emotion. materialism can just be a means to that end sometimes.


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