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Re: [PIC] Is this water or contam? [Re: Psilocyentist]
    #14274531 - 04/11/11 07:57 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Thank you, I'll try it next time! I'll try a new batch in a month if nothing's happening. I sure as hell hope something will happen, it's my second batch and I have yet to see a single pin... Perseverance is the key (I hope)!


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Re: [PIC] Is this water or contam? [Re: bobini]
    #14274657 - 04/11/11 08:26 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Was the tape wet covering the holes? Was the foil on loose? That wet they will probably stall.


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Re: [PIC] Is this water or contam? [Re: savage.renegade]
    #14274671 - 04/11/11 08:30 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

The foil wasn't loose and it was hard to say if the tape was wet; it seemed different, like it melted a bit of compressed on itself. There were little drops of water on the lid, maybe as big as the tip of a syringe.


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Re: [PIC] Is this water or contam? [Re: savage.renegade] * 1
    #14274678 - 04/11/11 08:32 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

You pc ed them with micropore tape. Start a new batch and use a tape that will keep moisture out


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Re: [PIC] Is this water or contam? [Re: bobini]
    #14274697 - 04/11/11 08:34 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

What's strange (and made me think it could be contamination in the first place) is that the wet spots are only localized in maybe 5-10% of the jar's surface. The rest seems pretty dry.


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Re: [PIC] Is this water or contam? [Re: savage.renegade]
    #14274705 - 04/11/11 08:35 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Oh! I always assumed that micropore tape was implied when "tape" was mentioned.  :facepalm3: What kind of tape do you suggest?


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Re: [PIC] Is this water or contam? [Re: bobini] * 1
    #14274724 - 04/11/11 08:39 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I think most people use masking tape, i use curads waterproof tape that they use in hospitals but i dont know where you would buy it


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Re: [PIC] Is this water or contam? [Re: savage.renegade]
    #14274735 - 04/11/11 08:41 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Damn details man, thanks a lot! You know what they say, third time's the time! :toast:


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Re: [PIC] Is this water or contam? [Re: bobini]
    #14274748 - 04/11/11 08:43 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Damn details man, thanks a lot! You know what they say, third time's the time! :toast:




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Re: [PIC] Is this water or contam? [Re: roulette450]
    #14274789 - 04/11/11 08:49 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I just made that up but it has to be true in my case :tongue:

Anyway, thank you all! If I had 4 more posts I'd give you all 5/5 ratings! Like Arnold once said, "I'll be back!"


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Re: [PIC] Is this water or contam? [Re: roulette450]
    #14274793 - 04/11/11 08:50 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Its all gravy. I know cuz i failed too. Also make sure to loosen the lids just a little bit, bout a 1/4 turn or so.


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Re: [PIC] Is this water or contam? [Re: savage.renegade]
    #14274842 - 04/11/11 08:57 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Noob question: what purpose does it serve?


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Re: [PIC] Is this water or contam? [Re: bobini]
    #14275015 - 04/11/11 09:29 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

To allow steam to escape


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Re: [PIC] Is this water or contam? [Re: savage.renegade]
    #14275149 - 04/11/11 09:49 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Oh ok thank you!


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Re: [PIC] Is this water or contam? [Re: bobini]
    #14275304 - 04/11/11 10:12 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

You absolutely can and should use breathable tape over the holes. That's not a problem here. Follow this tek to a T and you'll be fine: http://www.mushroomvideos.com/BRF-Pf-Tek

I'm guessing perhaps you just mixed the substrate too wet, which is easy to do and is a very common problem. Or maybe the photo is deceiving and the substrate composition is perfect, can't really tell. In any case, there's nothing you can do about any of this now except hope the jars flourish. Good luck!


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Re: [PIC] Is this water or contam? [Re: freespeech]
    #14276579 - 04/12/11 05:09 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Curad waterproof breathable tape = micropore tape.

The tape is only there to act as a barrier for contaminants before inoculation, so you don't end up with contams sitting on top of your verm layer that could get pushed down through when you innoc.

You don't need to loosen the lids because the pressure can equalize via the 4 innoc holes.

As freespeech said, watch the videos, follow the tek to a T and you'll succeed.


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Re: [PIC] Is this water or contam? [Re: Trippy_Smurf]
    #14279274 - 04/12/11 05:47 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Will do, thank you for the tips! The jars are in the incubator so it's out of my control for now.


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Re: [PIC] Is this water or contam? [Re: bobini]
    #14279451 - 04/12/11 06:22 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

put my 2 cents in a day late, but i need to pop my first post cherry.
ive done a lot of brf an can say it looks like water got into your jar. imo you put to much water in your pc,one layer of rings works fine just fill to 1/4 inch of water above the bottom of the jars and make sure you have foil covering the top of your jars and your golden.


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Re: [PIC] Is this water or contam? [Re: chilidog]
    #14279467 - 04/12/11 06:25 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Thank you chilidog, that's an useful first post! Keep them coming!


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