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Not sure if I should do LSD or not
    #14272465 - 04/11/11 01:42 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

So a couple of my friends are going to do LSD in a week or so and I have the opportunity to join them. Don't take this the wrong way. In no way shape or form are they pressuring me into doing LSD.  I have done shrooms before probably was at a 3 and had a blast. Just wondering what you guys thoughts were on this. To do acid or not to do acid. (1 hit)

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Re: Not sure if I should do LSD or not [Re: Tirain45]
    #14272531 - 04/11/11 01:55 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Really a decision that no one other than yourself can make.  Some one else telling you that you should do it will never help the situation.  If you are comfortable joining and taking the substance, by all means, go for it.  If you don't feel comfortable, or are questioning your judgement, it is probably best to wait or not do so at all.

At the end of the day, it is your personal preference...

Depending on your choice and the need there within: :raveface:

Good vibes and good luck to you either way :laugh:


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Re: Not sure if I should do LSD or not [Re: Tirain45]
    #14272549 - 04/11/11 02:00 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Ya i totally agree with you just wanted to get some input. I think ill probably go through with it. Seems like a fun time. =)

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Re: Not sure if I should do LSD or not [Re: Tirain45]
    #14272611 - 04/11/11 02:14 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Hi,

If you are in 100% health condition, there were not any psychical illness or suicide in your family tree, you have good setting, good company and good place to trip out, than - after you read whole shroomery - I would say chances are good that you will not suffer with any bigger problems.


The more points you dont meet, the more it is a lotery ticket (considering its your 1st LSD trip)

Maybe you have some basic experience with shrooms, but its possible that if you eat good acid now and you have eaten "not so good" shrooms before - that the result will be a quite different experience :smile:


As someone already stated, it all up to you, you know the best, just consider all factors I mentioned (and also those I have forgoten to mention :smile: )


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Re: Not sure if I should do LSD or not [Re: Tirain45]
    #14272656 - 04/11/11 02:20 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I'm pleased to see good advice in this thread. As already mentioned by Network23, check yourself, make sure you're a suitable candidate - don't take uncalculated risks.

Not sure about your area but it's not easy to get hold of here. To keep it short, my advice is, seize this opportunity, you will probably not regret it and the potential payoffs (a very memorable experience) could be hugely rewarding. The chances are, when you're old and reflective you will remember your first LSD trip as one of the most interesting things you did with your life.

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Re: Not sure if I should do LSD or not [Re: Tirain45]
    #14272736 - 04/11/11 02:37 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks for the advice guys! This is exactly what I was looking for. Ya its pretty easily obtained over where I currently live.  For a setting we are possibly thinking about outside since the weather is extremely nice right now.

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Re: Not sure if I should do LSD or not [Re: 420Experience]
    #14272774 - 04/11/11 02:42 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Really a decision that no one other than yourself can make.  Some one else telling you that you should do it will never help the situation.  If you are comfortable joining and taking the substance, by all means, go for it.  If you don't feel comfortable, or are questioning your judgement, it is probably best to wait or not do so at all.

At the end of the day, it is your personal preference...

Depending on your choice and the need there within: :raveface:

Good vibes and good luck to you either way :laugh:




My personal advice would be to take it. But DON'T take it if you feel pressured.
Why not meditate before hand?
But I think you will like it.
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Re: Not sure if I should do LSD or not [Re: Tirain45]
    #14272796 - 04/11/11 02:47 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

depending how strong your hit will be. the difference between mushrooms isnt that great. at low doeses it will be much more "handleable" and wont impair and "mindfuck" as they say you around as much as mushrooms have the potential to do. in other words to me it is a smoother and more reassuring trip. so "handling it" I think will be no problem. just find a good moment to do it. no rushing it [:...


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Re: Not sure if I should do LSD or not [Re: lasdR]
    #14272862 - 04/11/11 02:59 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

LSD rocks dude, DO IT! LOL

LSD won't give you any major surprises that shrooms haven't already given you. It just lasts a bit longer and is a little less confusing/emotional than shrooms. So if you were good with shrooms there is no reason you shouldn't be good with LSD.

Just make sure you aren't on any other medications, because that might be dangerous. If you aren't depressed or have mental issues or whatever then you'll be fine.

Whatever substance you trip on though, be sure you do it in a safe place. Choose your boundaries before hand, and don't do it in public or around other people who aren't tripping. Be able to control your environment. Don't have all your dumb stoner friends coming and going because this can fuck up the vibes of your space really bad.

and one last thing: LISTEN TO PINK FLOYD!!! Pink Floyd is fucking AMAZING on LSD. I recommend their album "obscured by clouds"...


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Re: Not sure if I should do LSD or not [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
    #14273221 - 04/11/11 04:10 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

In my experience, difference between shrooms and LSD is quite big. Also its all about dossage so its hard to judge.

I dont know how it is where you people live, but here, you can get 1 LSD "hit" with 50 to 200 gamma. And thats the difference between mild effects and possibly quite strong psychedelic experience.

Also I dont know, what quality of acid is sold elswhere, but if you would get a 250gamma trip, I would say eat a half if its a 1st :laugh:


My most hardcore experience where it was really on the edge were after "1 hit" which may to someone seem "funny thing to do". I wouldn love to see any 1st timer getting this one, its not a hit like a hit :smile:

After such a acid, me and couple of friends were triping for at least 48 hours straight, now tell me how much LSD must have been there?


I dont want to discourage or encourage anybody, just stating what happened. But that was 10 years ago.


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Re: Not sure if I should do LSD or not [Re: Network23]
    #14273570 - 04/11/11 04:58 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

If you handled the level 3 shroom trip alright, then you should be ok with some Cid doses. Every trip is different. Just remember the guiding principles of tripping: proper mind set and proper setting.


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Re: Not sure if I should do LSD or not [Re: FleshCap]
    #14273667 - 04/11/11 05:15 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Eat the:lsdabc:

Just don't go all :fasted:.


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Re: Not sure if I should do LSD or not [Re: Network23]
    #14273726 - 04/11/11 05:26 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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In my experience, difference between shrooms and LSD is quite big. Also its all about dossage so its hard to judge.

I dont know how it is where you people live, but here, you can get 1 LSD "hit" with 50 to 200 gamma. And thats the difference between mild effects and possibly quite strong psychedelic experience.

Also I dont know, what quality of acid is sold elswhere, but if you would get a 250gamma trip, I would say eat a half if its a 1st :laugh:


My most hardcore experience where it was really on the edge were after "1 hit" which may to someone seem "funny thing to do". I wouldn love to see any 1st timer getting this one, its not a hit like a hit :smile:

After such a acid, me and couple of friends were triping for at least 48 hours straight, now tell me how much LSD must have been there?


I dont want to discourage or encourage anybody, just stating what happened. But that was 10 years ago.




another one.. you tripped 48 hours off "1 hit"? not that it is impossible. but that would be after perhaps the equiliant of 5 000 normal 100ug hits, just roughly


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Re: Not sure if I should do LSD or not [Re: lasdR]
    #14276602 - 04/12/11 05:21 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Quote:

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In my experience, difference between shrooms and LSD is quite big. Also its all about dossage so its hard to judge.

I dont know how it is where you people live, but here, you can get 1 LSD "hit" with 50 to 200 gamma. And thats the difference between mild effects and possibly quite strong psychedelic experience.

Also I dont know, what quality of acid is sold elswhere, but if you would get a 250gamma trip, I would say eat a half if its a 1st :laugh:


My most hardcore experience where it was really on the edge were after "1 hit" which may to someone seem "funny thing to do". I wouldn love to see any 1st timer getting this one, its not a hit like a hit :smile:

After such a acid, me and couple of friends were triping for at least 48 hours straight, now tell me how much LSD must have been there?


I dont want to discourage or encourage anybody, just stating what happened. But that was 10 years ago.




another one.. you tripped 48 hours off "1 hit"? not that it is impossible. but that would be after perhaps the equiliant of 5 000 normal 100ug hits, just roughly




Hi,

how did you came up with 500 000ug? Why would such dosage be needed to roll that long? That trip surely didnt have such ammount in it.

What ammount is in a one drop of LSD from a  liquid dosage?

Im 100% sure 2 drops will let you trip AT LEAST 24 hours straight, more possibly much longer. Some people who get 2 drops from me, told me they were rolling 2 days after and I have no idea why they would lie to me?

Also I know what happened in that crazy times, that I ate only 1 paper, that we were 3 who did that, and that we rolled so hard for so long it wasnt good at all. But the effects were classic LSD, I ate a lot of it and I think I would distinguish true LSD from some other drug (can be wrong on this one ofc.). I also remember that the person who gave us those papers was telling us its somehow extremely potent and special. And that we didnt care :smile:

PS: Another one what? I know what you mean by that I guess, something like another one spreading BS here which cant be true. I can undarstand that, but I dont lie, it happened exactly like I told you. So what it was, if it wasnt LSD? What other drug has similar effects, is sold on the paper, and makes u roll for 48 hours heavily? And than 3 days of recoup to get your mind together?

I dont think I know everything, nor that Im always right, so Im really interrested in your ideas on what kind of drug it was, if it wasnt LSD.

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Re: Not sure if I should do LSD or not [Re: Network23]
    #14276751 - 04/12/11 07:11 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

If the tabs happen to be very potent then I would take less than one, maybe 3/4 or 2/3 of a tab. That isn't likely though I am guessing.
One tab even if it is strong should be just fine if you have had a mushroom trip @level 3.


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Re: Not sure if I should do LSD or not [Re: Network23]
    #14276903 - 04/12/11 08:32 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Network23 said:
Quote:

lasdR said:
Quote:

Network23 said:
In my experience, difference between shrooms and LSD is quite big. Also its all about dossage so its hard to judge.

I dont know how it is where you people live, but here, you can get 1 LSD "hit" with 50 to 200 gamma. And thats the difference between mild effects and possibly quite strong psychedelic experience.

Also I dont know, what quality of acid is sold elswhere, but if you would get a 250gamma trip, I would say eat a half if its a 1st :laugh:


My most hardcore experience where it was really on the edge were after "1 hit" which may to someone seem "funny thing to do". I wouldn love to see any 1st timer getting this one, its not a hit like a hit :smile:

After such a acid, me and couple of friends were triping for at least 48 hours straight, now tell me how much LSD must have been there?


I dont want to discourage or encourage anybody, just stating what happened. But that was 10 years ago.




another one.. you tripped 48 hours off "1 hit"? not that it is impossible. but that would be after perhaps the equiliant of 5 000 normal 100ug hits, just roughly




Hi,

how did you came up with 500 000ug? Why would such dosage be needed to roll that long? That trip surely didnt have such ammount in it.

What ammount is in a one drop of LSD from a  liquid dosage?

Im 100% sure 2 drops will let you trip AT LEAST 24 hours straight, more possibly much longer. Some people who get 2 drops from me, told me they were rolling 2 days after and I have no idea why they would lie to me?

Also I know what happened in that crazy times, that I ate only 1 paper, that we were 3 who did that, and that we rolled so hard for so long it wasnt good at all. But the effects were classic LSD, I ate a lot of it and I think I would distinguish true LSD from some other drug (can be wrong on this one ofc.). I also remember that the person who gave us those papers was telling us its somehow extremely potent and special. And that we didnt care :smile:

PS: Another one what? I know what you mean by that I guess, something like another one spreading BS here which cant be true. I can undarstand that, but I dont lie, it happened exactly like I told you. So what it was, if it wasnt LSD? What other drug has similar effects, is sold on the paper, and makes u roll for 48 hours heavily? And than 3 days of recoup to get your mind together?

I dont think I know everything, nor that Im always right, so Im really interrested in your ideas on what kind of drug it was, if it wasnt LSD.

Peace




I got no exact idea how much in micrograms would be need for a solid 48 trip. It varies anyway from person to person. But I assume you are aware of the RC scene and its many substances that are known for these attributes . there is absolutely no sense in having lsd so potent that 2 hits put you on a 48 hour trip. If that is actually the case, that it is LSD, I would recommend you to cut the potency down several times for your and yours own convenience to dose. lol..
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Re: Not sure if I should do LSD or not [Re: lasdR]
    #14276987 - 04/12/11 09:00 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

a wise man once told me

LSD has served me well

I can now say the same thing honestly


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Re: Not sure if I should do LSD or not [Re: lasdR]
    #14277392 - 04/12/11 11:04 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

lasdR > >

hmmm sorry mate this seems to me like you must have been joking when u told me 5000 x 100gama trip is needed to roll for 48 hours, when you now say you have no exact idea. And trust me, I dont wanna argue or diss anyone.

No Im not aware of the RC scene, and from what I found on net, Im not much smarter. Seems like some substitutes for drugs? Like you create "different" LSD, call it DSL and sell it as legal stuff because its not listed as a drug?


Why getting high for 48 hours from the usage of LSD would be something unreal? Happened to me, people I know, lots of people took too much LSD and were tripping much MUCH more hours than the standard mantra of 8-12 hours which keeps being repeated on and on.

Seems to me, like you cant believe someone would sell us so potent LSD for normal price of one hit. But he wasnt some unknown dealer, we werent classic customers and the times were rough


PS: One week after this mamoth experience I wrote everything on four A5 papers from both sides and I still have em. It was one of two most powerful experience in my amost 15 years of doing psychedelics, it was EXCEPTIONAL. I understand that believing in exceptional things may be hard. But it happened! And sometime in future I will translate that trip report and post it here so you and others can judge.

PSS: So getting sky high for AT LEAST 2 days and needing next 3 days to partialy rehab to be able to get by with other sane people is a normal attribute of some RC drug? Gimme a name of that substance please, I want to know more about it and compare it to what happened to me.

PSSS: IT was also a bad trip, really bad trip :/ So that should also be taken in the account I guess. And uncomprehensible things were happening. Also I still remember how I halucinated the next day evening (almost after those goddamned 48 hours :laugh: )and it was classic LSD. And I remember the other day morning, more than 48 hours after, how I was still fucked up standing in the completely silent winter nature and making noises just to hear myself and get down to reality (worked) My 2 mates were skilled trippers, I was skilled too. How is it that we didnt realized that this was not LSD? Hard to believe that, but ITS POSSIBILITY for sure.


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Re: Not sure if I should do LSD or not [Re: Tirain45]
    #14277504 - 04/12/11 11:27 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Ask yourself what is the purpose for doing LSD? If you're not sure, then I wouldn't recommend it. You have experience with psychedelics, but set and setting are important for all of them, including a healthy respect for the drug.

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Re: Not sure if I should do LSD or not [Re: Network23]
    #14279231 - 04/12/11 05:39 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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lasdR > >

hmmm sorry mate this seems to me like you must have been joking when u told me 5000 x 100gama trip is needed to roll for 48 hours, when you now say you have no exact idea. And trust me, I dont wanna argue or diss anyone.

No Im not aware of the RC scene, and from what I found on net, Im not much smarter. Seems like some substitutes for drugs? Like you create "different" LSD, call it DSL and sell it as legal stuff because its not listed as a drug?


Why getting high for 48 hours from the usage of LSD would be something unreal? Happened to me, people I know, lots of people took too much LSD and were tripping much MUCH more hours than the standard mantra of 8-12 hours which keeps being repeated on and on.

Seems to me, like you cant believe someone would sell us so potent LSD for normal price of one hit. But he wasnt some unknown dealer, we werent classic customers and the times were rough


PS: One week after this mamoth experience I wrote everything on four A5 papers from both sides and I still have em. It was one of two most powerful experience in my amost 15 years of doing psychedelics, it was EXCEPTIONAL. I understand that believing in exceptional things may be hard. But it happened! And sometime in future I will translate that trip report and post it here so you and others can judge.

PSS: So getting sky high for AT LEAST 2 days and needing next 3 days to partialy rehab to be able to get by with other sane people is a normal attribute of some RC drug? Gimme a name of that substance please, I want to know more about it and compare it to what happened to me.

PSSS: IT was also a bad trip, really bad trip :/ So that should also be taken in the account I guess. And uncomprehensible things were happening. Also I still remember how I halucinated the next day evening (almost after those goddamned 48 hours :laugh: )and it was classic LSD. And I remember the other day morning, more than 48 hours after, how I was still fucked up standing in the completely silent winter nature and making noises just to hear myself and get down to reality (worked) My 2 mates were skilled trippers, I was skilled too. How is it that we didnt realized that this was not LSD? Hard to believe that, but ITS POSSIBILITY for sure.




You didnt take acid and trip for 2 days man.  He's not bullshitting you.  You need to look into it and you will understand.

Here's one example.  DOI.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2,5-Dimethoxy-4-iodoamphetamine

Here's another.  DOM.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2,5-Dimethoxy-4-methylamphetamine


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- "Drugs and Drug Policy: The Control of Consciousness Alteration, 2007.

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