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brendan670
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seizure?
#14269801 - 04/10/11 10:39 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Alright so a couple nights ago me and 5 of my close friends decided to all trip on mushrooms together. I got 2 grams of mexican cubes and made tea with them. we all had the same mushies in different doses tho, including my friend, who ate a quarter. about 30-40 min after drinking the tea im starting to trip and feel the body high. probably about an hour after i start tripping, we spark up a blunt. we get done with the blunt, and i lean foward to put it out (i was sitting on the edge of my bed) and i suddenly feel light headed. immidiatly, i try to slide back on my bed so i can lean up against the wall. next thing i know i felt the most intense feeling, way more intense than even a strong dmt trip. i felt as if my life flashed before me. i wake up with my friends crowded around me, not knowing where i was for sure (i was in my bedroom).
my friends are all yelling my name and i immidiatly jumped up, thinking i simply fell asleep and thought if i dozed off again i would die. I ask, "what the fuck just happened?", and i was told i had a seizure. I noticed about ten seconds after i woke up that i had pissed my pants. the rest of my trip was the longest 4 or 5 hours of my life. the whole time i would get really bad cold sweats and felt like i was going to die.
None of my friends had any problems with them, rather than having their trip ruined worring about me/themselves.
I would also like to add that this is about the 5th or 6th time ive done shrooms, the last time before this happened was the weekend before, which were the same batch of mushrooms, and i had a blast.
I did some reading up and learned passing out on shrooms is halfway common, and can relate to bp. I am on meds that can raise bp, and take hawthorn berry to offset it. i took the hawthorn berries about an hour before the tea.
my question is, does it sound like i had a straight up seizure, or just fainted? my friends told me that when i fell back, i hit the back of my head on the wall and was just laying there. my head was proped up against the wall so my chin was digging into my chest and apperently looked like it was cutting off my breathing. they thought i was messing around at first, but about a minute later my brother looked at me and said i was really pail. he jumped up and grabbed my arm to pull me up and i was completly limp. i shook a little then snapped out of it. my friend that was next to me later told me that my whole body twitched one time, then my jaw started convolsing violently.
i really hope i just fainted, but the fact i was shaking, wet myself and was so confused to not even recognize my own room scares me.
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Par

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A friend of mine had a seizure on mushrooms and he has probably done them 10-20 times before it even happened and supposedly his head was bleeding and this was in the washroom. I wasn't there but I was told this
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Re: seizure? [Re: Par]
#14270089 - 04/10/11 11:42 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I've fainted/passed out on mushrooms three times. The first time I was in my bed watching something on my laptop and my brain just overloaded, and I woke up like 30 minutes later and was coming down from the shrooms by that point.
The second time I was watching a movie on some pretty potent shrooms. I got up to go to the bathroom, and the shrooms were so strong that I began to get light headed when I was standing to go pee, and the experience was becoming more intense, I saw a dark human like figure and felt like it was going to attack me. Next thing I know, I am laying on the ground when I come to. Luckily I landed on a bag full of trash that was really soft instead of smacking my head against the wall.
The third time it happened on the very next trip after the one previously described. I was just sitting in my bed, listening to music in a dark room. When I closed my eyes I was having very detailed closed eyed visuals...it was basically painting the music in my head. I had this going on along with some thoughts racing across my mind furiously. I felt a like electric buzz in my brain and just felt my brain shutoff, and I came to about a minute later.
I think it's a combination of passing out because of low brain pressure, and a response of the brain when it becomes overwhelmed by the experience.
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I had a seizure on acid and onetime I had one when I smoked a bong while drinking.
another time i had one completely sober.
Never had a problem with mushrooms though.
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Re: seizure? [Re: Par]
#14270111 - 04/10/11 11:47 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I've had this happen to 2 friends on different occasions, neither of them had eaten more than about 2g. I was standing right next to one of my buddies when it happened, we were waiting in line for the bathroom at sts9 and he fell over puked a little bit then was fine. I was coming up on lsd for the first time so I think that I was more freaked out than he was. Both of them said them hadn't drank enough water, smoked LOTS of weed, and hadn't eaten. I know a lot of people say you should fast before a trip but I've always felt better with a light meal in my stomach.
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Re: seizure? [Re: gento]
#14270263 - 04/11/11 12:24 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Don't combine drugs if you have seizures or heart problems. Or at least know you do it at your own risk.
Seizures are a symptom of something going on in the body, and everyone has their own triggers. Try working out the day before a trip, make sure you have your vitamins/minerals, and make sure you're not dehydrated. What you said doesn't sound weird to me, because I know I would probably have a seizure from that combination.
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Re: seizure? [Re: maug]
#14270943 - 04/11/11 07:25 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I have witnessed this ... one of my ex-girlfriends had a seizure after eating a chocolate one time. It was so incredibly scary and of course we were at a show. Happened right after they turned on the house lights to leave.
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brendan670
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So do you think it was actually a seizure? I know that none of you are neurologists or anything but should i be worried? Ive never had a seizure nor has anyone in my family that i know of. Is it something that some people are more prone to? like will it more than likely happen from now on everytime i trip on something?
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brendan670 said: So do you think it was actually a seizure? I know that none of you are neurologists or anything but should i be worried? Ive never had a seizure nor has anyone in my family that i know of. Is it something that some people are more prone to? like will it more than likely happen from now on everytime i trip on something?
Well seizures are caused by triggers. So if you repeat the same stresses/triggers... Some people are more prone to seizures. Other signs that you are prone to them would be a febrile seizure when young, or a seizure with no obvious triggers like mushrooms + weed + tobacco. Anyone can have a seizure from a bad combination.
I know it's really embarrassing when the room stops and everyone looks at you. Because I'm prone I prefer not to do high doses or combinations around people.
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Re: seizure? [Re: maug]
#14272737 - 04/11/11 02:37 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I've seen the exact same thing. Two people at the same time actually. One was my brother who had lots of experience tripping and this had happened to him before. The other person was a friend from class who had pretty much no experience at all.
The only difference between what you describe and what I saw was that he stopped breathing, his whole body locked up and became tense, his eyes rolled back into his head and he became very red in the face. We could all feel this immense HEAT radiating off of his body, like a ton of energy had been released.
As he was coming to my brother then did the exact same thing, probably as a nervous reaction that sent him into a panic attack since he had a traumatic experience last time that this happened to him.
The other kid described the experience like seeing his whole life flash before his eyes.
I don't really know what causes it, and nobody has been able to research it because it just happens totally randomly, infrequently, and also because research into psychedelics is illegal and also stigmatized.
So we really can't say whether this is just fainting, or an actual seizure. This is typically accompanied by convulsions, so it really looks like a seizure, but who really knows.
I would bet that your medication probably had a role, plus the marijuana. My brother said that whenever this happens to him it's always when he smokes weed while peaking. I usually never smoke while peaking because of this, but instead smoke during the come up/down.
Some people might call this "ego death" or an "out of body experience", but really I'm not sure if these are the same. It's never happened to me, and when I have had ego death it was not accompanied by convulsions.
Either way, this is why it's really really important to know what people's medical histories are before giving them psychedelics. I always ask "are you on any medications, have you ever had a seizure, do you have panick attacks or anxiety disorders, etc?"
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brendan670 said: So do you think it was actually a seizure? I know that none of you are neurologists or anything but should i be worried? Ive never had a seizure nor has anyone in my family that i know of. Is it something that some people are more prone to? like will it more than likely happen from now on everytime i trip on something?
Like I said, this has happened to my brother a few times, but to this day he still loves to trip. He's been tripping for years and this has happened to him only a few times. He will typically only take very low doses though. Honestly I don't think he handles tripping very well because of his past traumas, but he does it anyway.
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