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First time ingesting 7 grams. Advice?
    #14272609 - 04/11/11 02:13 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I have never eaten more than 1-3 grams a trip, and even on that small amount i always trip well. Today I have eaten only a few pieces of fish, taken vitamins/ginko/amino acids, and will chew up 7gs later tonight. I am more experienced with MDMA and lucy than shrooms. Anything i should expect different on this amount? Does lemon juice do shit? Is the skye blu?


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Re: First time ingesting 7 grams. Advice? [Re: thatguyword] * 1
    #14272720 - 04/11/11 02:34 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

7 grams of good shrooms is going to be full-blown, ego-destroying, face-removing, mind-busting self-obliteration. You won't need lemon juice, but yes it does seem to have an intensifying effect on the trip.


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Re: First time ingesting 7 grams. Advice? [Re: thatguyword]
    #14272739 - 04/11/11 02:37 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Personally wouldn't even consider lemon teking 7 grams of dried shrooms.

Are they cubensis?


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Re: First time ingesting 7 grams. Advice? [Re: HeiligBoomerz]
    #14272750 - 04/11/11 02:39 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

advice:

dont fight it.

separate the body from the mind

once again, dont fight it.

just let it happen. observe. dont think. dont do. just observe.

its not like youll be able to do anything other than that during the peak, but on the come up make sure you just chill out and dont get anxious about how quickly shit starts going crazy.


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Re: First time ingesting 7 grams. Advice? [Re: Samuel L Jackson]
    #14272798 - 04/11/11 02:47 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

best advice you can get from samuelLjackson I think

also you might want to try this if the thought of just observing doesn't cut it at some point:
say with the voice in your head during in-breath
beginning (at beginning), middle (middle), end (end)
on the out breath do the same
talk your way through breathing like that
simply to direct attention elsewhere than your thoughts
concentrate on your nose while following the breath like this


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Re: First time ingesting 7 grams. Advice? [Re: thatguyword] * 1
    #14272898 - 04/11/11 03:06 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

i say since you've only experienced up to 3gm i would not take 7 gms, you should try a 5 gram trip first,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,7gms will completely send you out of this world,it is nothing like 3grams, not at all, its a different world my friend , 5grams is another world, ,. again try 5 gms and then go from there, trust me on this one


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Re: First time ingesting 7 grams. Advice? [Re: ant61]
    #14272917 - 04/11/11 03:11 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

dont forget to bring your towel


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Re: First time ingesting 7 grams. Advice? [Re: thatguyword]
    #14272955 - 04/11/11 03:18 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Should you expect anything different between 3gs and 7gs? Seriously?

Just have a place free from distractions (people, noises) with easily accessible music (I'd preload the playlist) and a comfy place to lay down completely.
It's going to be a long ride. :thumbup:

Personally, I'd listen to Tomorrow Never Knows on the come up. :awecid:


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Re: First time ingesting 7 grams. Advice? [Re: ifoundwaldo]
    #14273639 - 04/11/11 05:10 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I would not jump to 7

5 gm would be a good stepping stone.... Need to see the edge before falling off

Think 7 gm will be a waste and you will not recall parts of it

I agree.... Don't right it... Have no where to go and no one who has expectations of you for 6 hrs
Get drinks and a good blanket.... Clean your toliet before hand

Relax... Maybe write yourself some notes.... It's inky drugs, you will be on, don't go out that door, etc


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Re: First time ingesting 7 grams. Advice? [Re: HarryL]
    #14273993 - 04/11/11 06:11 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Dark, quiet, safe room with no distractions... things to have around include a notebook, music incase you feel the vibe, musical instrument if you play.

In all honesty though be prepared to just lay in one spot for most or all of the trip having your mind completely blown in ways you never thought possible. You probably won't want/or be able to do much besides just lay down and take the trip.


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Re: First time ingesting 7 grams. Advice? [Re: lifeinallday]
    #14274012 - 04/11/11 06:15 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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dont forget to bring your towel




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Re: First time ingesting 7 grams. Advice? [Re: HeiligBoomerz]
    #14274443 - 04/11/11 07:38 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: First time ingesting 7 grams. Advice? [Re: arnold_schoenberg]
    #14275024 - 04/11/11 09:30 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: First time ingesting 7 grams. Advice? [Re: thatguyword]
    #14275194 - 04/11/11 09:55 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I say it's a bad idea.


If you eat 7 grams you will have an ego death experience. this basically means you will believe you have died. And i don't mean like 'oh i feel like death man...', i mean as in , you literally feel you have died (your body will shutdown) and it builds up into a tornado untill you submit and ' die ' , and then you are treated to a blissful experience afterwards.


But if you don't submit to the trip it will only torment you and make things worse for you.






If you are going to i would get an experienced trip sitter to help you through it, and i would plan out a specific time and place for it all, and also just prepare things in advance like a few different types of tunes and music that can be played etc.


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Re: First time ingesting 7 grams. Advice? [Re: Dosile Kouki]
    #14275344 - 04/11/11 10:18 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

7 grams is a lot. def don't lemon tek it. that makes them roughly 4-6 times as potent. completely uncalled for. if they are cake shrooms id say go for it. lol. but i just had about 4 grams home grown poo golden teachers and borderline lost it. my friend ate about 3.6 and had a pretty bad trip for the first 45 mins or so. if i were u id eat half wait and hour then eat the other half just so you dont get it all at once, but regardless your gona be fucked up.


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Re: First time ingesting 7 grams. Advice? [Re: highc]
    #14275408 - 04/11/11 10:27 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Yo mayne.... 7 grams will have you TO' the fuck up!
Just remember to be in a setting that is absolutely comfortable.... if possible have a trip sitter to observe you/hold your hand if things get too hairy.
I have literally saved peoples lives before trip sitting them on seven gramm doses, so just PLEASE BE CAREFUL OP!


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Re: First time ingesting 7 grams. Advice? [Re: shroomie_glen]
    #14275744 - 04/11/11 11:43 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

If you've only eating 1-3 grams... I kinda think you're making a big jump. That is more than double your highest dose. Don't you want to see what 4, 5, 6 grams do? You will almost definitely find that 4-5 is plenty or even more than enough. If you do eat seven, don't lemon tek it, totally unnecessary, have some valiums on hand and a good friend too.


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Re: First time ingesting 7 grams. Advice? [Re: drr]
    #14275823 - 04/12/11 12:03 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I started eating heroic doses when I first started cultivating and personally I think if your gonna indulge in mushrooms for self exploration then Ego death is where its at.

But just remember setting is everything and go into the tripp knowing what you want to gain out of it. And with that large of a jump a tripp sitter is needed for sure. In ego death you loose touch with the world as you know it and with out some one there shit can get hairy. I broke 2 of my fingers by jumping up on a 9 gram tripp and I didnt even know my fingers were in some gaps of the wood on a picnic table.
And I could for sure of seen alot of em goin alot worse than that if some one close to me wasn't around to ground me when I needed it. I love nature and being out doors while on large doses but if you live in the city then a dark cool room with alot of pillows and good vibes goin. And the suggestion of a note book up top is a great one. I started doing it years ago. And its crazy how different the tripp looks to you after flipping through the note book a few days later. Its amazing how you wont be able to do most things but expressing your self seems to come natural on high doses. But don't try it on a comp, the screen light will fuck with you and typing is wicked hard on heroic doses. Be safe and take it seriously and dive into a exploration of you mind that will positively affect you for years to come if approached right.


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Re: First time ingesting 7 grams. Advice? [Re: drr]
    #14275930 - 04/12/11 12:25 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

my first shroom experience was on 7 grams. mdma had been my only prior psychedellic experience. i actually can remember things that manifested in my mind at a point when i'm told i was basically catatonic. i experienced death and it was wonderful. and when i came too after about an hour of death i had such a complete rebirth that i had to start from scratch. i lost all knowledge of who i was and the ability to understand the concept of bad or evil. ithought there was only goodness. of course as the shrooms wore off i got back to reality. its just weird remembering how innocent and utopian my mind was for a couple hours. like i was a newborn for a short while. . . also i have to add i was on bars before i came across the shrooms and had 10mg in my system by the peak. and smoked an 8th of purp on the comeup... i'd advise you to have some benzos handy. i would  have prolly flipped shit if i hadnt been on them.


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Re: First time ingesting 7 grams. Advice? [Re: Shermsticks]
    #14275950 - 04/12/11 12:28 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

damn. took me a half hour to type that last post in my ps3 cause igot stuck thinkin about it... also try not too actually eat the benzos  unless you feel it becomes a necessity


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Re: First time ingesting 7 grams. Advice? [Re: Shermsticks]
    #14276017 - 04/12/11 12:46 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I'm kind of surprised at all the people saying 7 grams will obliterate him (I'm not disagreeing with you guys, though--I still wouldn't call myself experienced with shrooms).

But for me myself?  4 grams barely gets me tripping.  No real visuals, good body feelings, and a slightly greater appreciate of music.

I have to eat like 5 or 6 grams just to get where I want to be.

Is that just me and my weird body make-up (metabolism, etc.) or does anyone else have to eat amounts in the same quantity as me to really start tripping?


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Re: First time ingesting 7 grams. Advice? [Re: Johnny Springfield]
    #14276091 - 04/12/11 01:04 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

i only think i got hit with such a mind blowing trip because the bars made my mind scattered... in slight relevance, it takes me a good 10mg or so snorted 2c-t-2 to start getting real good effects. i can feel it at 1mg still though.


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Re: First time ingesting 7 grams. Advice? [Re: Shermsticks]
    #14276167 - 04/12/11 01:23 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Advise? no.

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Re: First time ingesting 7 grams. Advice? [Re: Johnny Springfield]
    #14276372 - 04/12/11 02:34 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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No real visuals, good body feelings, and a slightly greater appreciate of music.



That is a perfect description of what I get from literally as little as .5-1 gram. So either I'm sensitive or you're hard headed or more likely a little of both.

To shermsticks - if anything the xannies mellowed your trip out.

If I had a benzos I'd probably dose a lot higher.

They aren't hard to get either...I just don't really like going to the doctor.


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Re: First time ingesting 7 grams. Advice? [Re: drr]
    #14276861 - 04/12/11 08:03 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Do it!  do more if you have them.  Lemontek is all that much better.

I've lemontek'd 5gm of cyans and was pretty messed up for a while, but it was a good ride.

When in doubt, double the dose!


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Re: First time ingesting 7 grams. Advice? [Re: thatguyword]
    #14276876 - 04/12/11 08:13 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

What to expect? Expect that all your expectations will quickly become meaningless, buckle your seatbelt Dorothy, because Kansas is going bye-bye. Nothing anyone tells you could possibly communicate what you will experience on 7 grams. Going from 3 grams to 7 grams is a massive jump. The increase in intensity as a function of dosage is not linear - double the dose in this case could be 4x as intense, or even infinitely more intense. If you're really intent on upping your dosage, do it in smaller steps. Try somewhere in the 4-5 gram ballpark and then see if you still want to try 7. Of course, no matter what you decide, just remember to let go and accept whatever is happening.


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Re: First time ingesting 7 grams. Advice? [Re: Johnny Springfield]
    #14278697 - 04/12/11 03:36 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I'm kind of surprised at all the people saying 7 grams will obliterate him (I'm not disagreeing with you guys, though--I still wouldn't call myself experienced with shrooms).

But for me myself?  4 grams barely gets me tripping.  No real visuals, good body feelings, and a slightly greater appreciate of music.

I have to eat like 5 or 6 grams just to get where I want to be.

Is that just me and my weird body make-up (metabolism, etc.) or does anyone else have to eat amounts in the same quantity as me to really start tripping?




Either you have a really high natural tolerance or your shrooms are garbage. I can have a pretty decent trip on as little as 1 gram of mushrooms. 2-3 is my sweet spot and anything past that is what I would consider a heavy trip.


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Re: First time ingesting 7 grams. Advice? [Re: Subconscious]
    #14279544 - 04/12/11 06:41 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Either you have a really high natural tolerance or your shrooms are garbage.




They shouldn't be garbage.  I've grown 4 different strains now.  I don't know how I'd be managing to grow weak shrooms every time. :shrug:


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Re: First time ingesting 7 grams. Advice? [Re: Johnny Springfield]
    #14279610 - 04/12/11 06:56 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

but if you do do it, be sure to let us know how it goes.


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Re: First time ingesting 7 grams. Advice? [Re: Johnny Springfield]
    #14280892 - 04/12/11 10:07 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Quote:

Subconscious said:
Either you have a really high natural tolerance or your shrooms are garbage.




They shouldn't be garbage.  I've grown 4 different strains now.  I don't know how I'd be managing to grow weak shrooms every time. :shrug:


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Same garbage growing conditions lol.  Jk. Its probably tolerance cuz that def ain't normal


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Re: First time ingesting 7 grams. Advice? [Re: highc]
    #14281804 - 04/13/11 01:07 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Man, you guys got me worrying a little now, like that maybe my dehydrator is too hot and degrading them, or maybe my scale is off by a whole gram or two or something.  Shit.  :frown:

It's not tolerance, though.  My mushroom trips are all spaced out by weeks.

I do have a jackrabbit metabolism, though.  Could I just be digesting them quicker than most people?


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Re: First time ingesting 7 grams. Advice? [Re: Johnny Springfield]
    #14281854 - 04/13/11 01:23 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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maybe my scale is off by a whole gram or two or something.




Easy way to calibrate your scale - a nickel should weigh exactly 5.0 grams.


I also have a very fast metabolism, and it takes slightly more mushies for me than my friends to be at the same level. I never knew if this is the reason for my tolerance, could be though...


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Re: First time ingesting 7 grams. Advice? [Re: Johnny Springfield]
    #14282026 - 04/13/11 02:22 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

i also require a large dose if i want to hallucinate . if you are going to lemon tek it , make sure you are sitting down with whatever you need within arms reach , maybe have some floyd or dead playing .  i second that previous advice ... "dont think" . also setting and intention . if you cant clear your mind or anxiety on the rapid come up , think happy thoughts and about what you want from the trip .


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Re: First time ingesting 7 grams. Advice? [Re: Johnny Springfield]
    #14283675 - 04/13/11 12:33 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I'm kind of surprised at all the people saying 7 grams will obliterate him (I'm not disagreeing with you guys, though--I still wouldn't call myself experienced with shrooms).

But for me myself?  4 grams barely gets me tripping.  No real visuals, good body feelings, and a slightly greater appreciate of music.

I have to eat like 5 or 6 grams just to get where I want to be.

Is that just me and my weird body make-up (metabolism, etc.) or does anyone else have to eat amounts in the same quantity as me to really start tripping?



Its your body and metabolism, I see visuals and trip off of 1.7.  3grams is the most I have eaten and I couldn't even stand up for the first 2 hours of the peak.


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Re: First time ingesting 7 grams. Advice? [Re: ChronicSmoke]
    #14283709 - 04/13/11 12:41 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I eat  and Im seeing shit go crazy. I eat 5 and everything is melting. I have super high metabolism...


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Re: First time ingesting 7 grams. Advice? [Re: allensig3654]
    #14283779 - 04/13/11 12:54 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I've done 7 grams a few times... i would never eat more than 7 grams now, so if your going to do it please be careful... i would recomend what a few others have said here and do a 5 gram dose first.. 5 grams will give you enough of a hit without making you feel like you've died.. I've had ego death a few times.. i don't ever want to experience it again unless im locked up in some padded cell!


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Re: First time ingesting 7 grams. Advice? [Re: microdotty]
    #14283919 - 04/13/11 01:20 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I think 5 is better for you at this time than 7 too


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Re: First time ingesting 7 grams. Advice? [Re: Ferdinando]
    #14284166 - 04/13/11 02:00 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Let us know how it goes.

I'm still to much of a pussy for a heroic dose haha most i've done is 3.5 grams and i was trippin balls watching things melt, talking to walls, etc. Was an amazing experience. One day i shall up it to 5 grams..


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Re: First time ingesting 7 grams. Advice? [Re: Misto]
    #14284295 - 04/13/11 02:28 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Let us know how it goes.

I'm still to much of a pussy for a heroic dose haha most i've done is 3.5 grams and i was trippin balls watching things melt, talking to walls, etc. Was an amazing experience. One day i shall up it to 5 grams..




If walls are melting at an 8th, 5 grams should be a good next dose. My walls never melt at an 8th.


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Re: First time ingesting 7 grams. Advice? [Re: Joolz]
    #14284352 - 04/13/11 02:41 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

One of the best trips ever i had on 5 grams!!


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Re: First time ingesting 7 grams. Advice? [Re: Johnny Springfield]
    #14285827 - 04/13/11 06:53 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Man, you guys got me worrying a little now, like that maybe my dehydrator is too hot and degrading them, or maybe my scale is off by a whole gram or two or something.  Shit.  :frown:

It's not tolerance, though.  My mushroom trips are all spaced out by weeks.

I do have a jackrabbit metabolism, though.  Could I just be digesting them quicker than most people?




I have a high metabolism too... i'm not sure it matters. I think your brain chemistry determines how hard you trip more so than your weight/metabolism. Although it could play a small factor...

Are you on any prescription meds? Maybe you're just naturally more tolerant to psychedelics than most of the people here? Who knows...


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Re: First time ingesting 7 grams. Advice? [Re: Johnny Springfield]
    #14286429 - 04/13/11 08:23 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Man, you guys got me worrying a little now, like that maybe my dehydrator is too hot and degrading them, or maybe my scale is off by a whole gram or two or something.  Shit.  :frown:

It's not tolerance, though.  My mushroom trips are all spaced out by weeks.

I do have a jackrabbit metabolism, though.  Could I just be digesting them quicker than most people?



Let some of your next batch air dry, or set them on top of the cable box to dry out. Take a dose of those that have been dried like that and compare. Then you will know if your dehydrator is F'n you over.


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Re: First time ingesting 7 grams. Advice? [Re: lifeinallday]
    #14641112 - 06/20/11 02:27 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

yeah


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Re: First time ingesting 7 grams. Advice? [Re: thatguyword]
    #14641121 - 06/20/11 02:32 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Ate 6-7 grams of my first flush off my second grow. Felt like I was on a quarter, did not see SHIT for visuals. Total bummer. :sad:

Good thing could be that I may be able to just eat a whole bunch of mushrooms and go to work one night. I don't do shit but lax it in a chair and listen to music, so it'd be a groovy night indeed!


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Re: First time ingesting 7 grams. Advice? [Re: thatguyword]
    #14641610 - 06/20/11 07:25 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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yeah




This bit of insight was worth bringing back a 2 month old thread?


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Re: First time ingesting 7 grams. Advice? [Re: Subconscious]
    #14641749 - 06/20/11 08:21 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Subconscious said:
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yeah




This bit of insight was worth bringing back a 2 month old thread?




Haha this comment to his comment was worth bringing back the 2 month old thread:)


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