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Trip, boosted up with nicotine gum!
    #14272597 - 04/11/11 02:10 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

this worked really well! :thumbup:


heres how it went down:

first off, what was actually consumed was a syrian rue/shrooms combo. i dont know how it will effect a regular shroom trip yet, but i will definitely try that next time.

so i was dosed up with a buddy last night, and at one point he mentioned cigarettes slightly kicking up a trip. i had a full box of this gum just sitting around, so i thought i would give it a try. first i tried finding info on possible maoi interactions with nicotine gum, but was having a difficult finding any info. so i gave up, and sampled approx 1/5 of a 4mg piece to be safe. i noticed immediate intensification. after 10 minutes or so, i felt comfortable with doing the entire piece, and giving my buddy one as well. he experienced the same boost as i did. after a while we kicked it up further with 2 pieces each. we ended up consuming alot of this gum over the next few hours. not to mention that the Rite Aid brand fruit flavor nicotine gum is quite possibly the best tasting gum i have ever had!

anyways im kinda thinking that the maoi could affect the absorption of nicotine, or something. im not really sure what it was though. :shrug: but this boosting occurred every time the gum was added, as we did take several breaks from the gum periodically. 

maybe somebody else could shed some light on this topic. or possibly experiment and report back. :shrug: some more varificaion (or non) would be cool. as it will quite a while before i dose again!

btw rue+shrooms is just a really cool combo regardless. i recommended it to anyone who does a little research into diet/medication interactions with maoi's beforehand.
just be safe :thumbup:


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Re: DMT trip, boosted up with nicotine gum! [Re: awakendone]
    #14274458 - 04/11/11 07:41 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I can vouch for this as I was there partaking in :trippnballs: with my fellow fungal broski.

We'd each dosed 3g Syrian Rue + Psilocybin (me 8.3g, him 16g, both lemon tek'd) and I'd estimate it was somewhere around the peak that we began ingesting the gum, chewing it for several seconds then parking it between our gums to aid in absorption.

Prior to this I was pretty damn active yet not even a few minutes later I fell into a COMPLETELY FUCKING DEEP trance state whenever I would park the nicotine gum. I would say over the course of 2 hours I was utterly catatonic, unable to hold a conversation or realize the outside world existed. I fell into this state 20 times as it was occasionally broken for several seconds whenever awakendone would say something to me but the instant I finished responding (or tried to) I was benighted by this trance again. I could not move AT ALL, even if I wanted to.

I cannot explain what I perceived in the abyss behind my closed eyes, however I perceived eyes within this darkness... everywhere. Gigantic, gaping eyes just piercing my very being, a void composed of meditative faces all with open eyes on their foreheads. These eyes all began to relay unbelievable amounts of data with me. Many times I even saw galaxies (I vividly recall seeing the Milky Way galaxy in the top-right corner of this void I was in) and needless to say my consciousness had expanded miles wide. Time ceased completely. These trance states lasted what felt like hours long, and they were induced whenever the nicotine gum was chewed and parked.

I HIGHLY recommend people attempt this in conjunction with rue/psilocybin. Hands down the most profound, ineffable experience of my life. Thank you awakendone, you kickass motherfucker you. :lahey:


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Re: DMT trip, boosted up with nicotine gum! [Re: sunset_mission]
    #14274568 - 04/11/11 08:05 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I am interested in knowing why the nicotine gum affected us so intensely though. I recall reading tobacco/nicotine was used to induce meditative states in shamans on their own.


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Re: DMT trip, boosted up with nicotine gum! [Re: sunset_mission]
    #14274604 - 04/11/11 08:13 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

My guess is that it was the huge doses of shrooms and rue more so than the nicotine gum.


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Re: DMT trip, boosted up with nicotine gum! [Re: muistrue]
    #14274635 - 04/11/11 08:20 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

8.3 and 16g is quite a lot. I think testing should be done on a lower dose to see if the effects are still there.


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Re: DMT trip, boosted up with nicotine gum! [Re: sunset_mission]
    #14274638 - 04/11/11 08:21 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

First off, taking Syrian Rue plus psilocybin mushrooms does not mean you took DMT. While Syrian Rue contains beta-carbolines which inhibit the MAO enzymes, it does not contain DMT, nor does it lead to DMT being produced when ingested with mushrooms.
Tobacco, mapacho specifically, has a close relationship with ayahuasca shamanism in South America. Mapacho has much greater levels of nicotine than the commercial tobacco we are used to in the US. Tobacco also is known to contain chemicals which act as MAO inhibitors and that the use of tobacco can lead to lower levels of MAO expression. This would not explain why the use of nicotine gum had such a profound effect though.


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Re: DMT trip, boosted up with nicotine gum! [Re: raw-beets]
    #14274696 - 04/11/11 08:34 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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First off, taking Syrian Rue plus psilocybin mushrooms does not mean you took DMT. While Syrian Rue contains beta-carbolines which inhibit the MAO enzymes, it does not contain DMT, nor does it lead to DMT being produced when ingested with mushrooms.
Tobacco, mapacho specifically, has a close relationship with ayahuasca shamanism in South America. Mapacho has much greater levels of nicotine than the commercial tobacco we are used to in the US. Tobacco also is known to contain chemicals which act as MAO inhibitors and that the use of tobacco can lead to lower levels of MAO expression. This would not explain why the use of nicotine gum had such a profound effect though.




Nobody said Syrian Rue produces DMT, where are you getting this from? I have heard that mushrooms do contain some DMT in them, though I cannot say this for certain. I will say, however, that I have gotten a "DMT-esque" feeling when combining rue + psilocybin and if there is in fact DMT in them then it would make sense.


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Re: DMT trip, boosted up with nicotine gum! [Re: sunset_mission]
    #14274731 - 04/11/11 08:39 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Shrooms do contain 4-HO-DMT which is psilocin but no DMT.


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Re: DMT trip, boosted up with nicotine gum! [Re: muistrue]
    #14275090 - 04/11/11 09:42 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Shrooms do contain 4-HO-DMT which is psilocin but no DMT.




either way our 'trips" were consistently being intensified (or what appeared to be) every single time the gum was taken.

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8.3 and 16g is quite a lot. I think testing should be done on a lower dose to see if the effects are still there.




i agree that further testing needs to be done. i would not have even started the thread had i experienced this alone, but for him to feel the same way made it seem somewhat more valid.

and for the record my dose was actually 14g, and it was only that high to make up for some tolerance from tripping recently, not to mention i naturally have a really high tolerance for shrooms (actually every substance i have ever tried). he was even tripping much harder than i was.


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Re: DMT trip, boosted up with nicotine gum! [Re: awakendone]
    #14275198 - 04/11/11 09:55 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Shrooms do contain 4-HO-DMT which is psilocin but no DMT.




either way our 'trips" were consistently being intensified (or what appeared to be) every single time the gum was taken.




It definitely was bro. When we took a break from the gum a bit of intensity was lifted but as soon as we started again I was back into fetal inanimate larvae mode, as you saw. :toomuchacid:

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8.3 and 16g is quite a lot. I think testing should be done on a lower dose to see if the effects are still there.




Yeah we had tripped earlier in the day. Next time me and him trip we are going to test this again.


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Re: DMT trip, boosted up with nicotine gum! [Re: sunset_mission]
    #14275425 - 04/11/11 10:29 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

How much does this gum cost? And you recommend the Rite-Aid fruit flavor?


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Re: DMT trip, boosted up with nicotine gum! [Re: Aser]
    #14275918 - 04/12/11 12:22 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I'm guessing placebo effect.


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Re: DMT trip, boosted up with nicotine gum! [Re: awakendone]
    #14277950 - 04/12/11 01:12 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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awakendone said:
this worked really well! :thumbup:


heres how it went down:

first off, what was actually consumed was a syrian rue/shrooms combo (thats why i listed it as DMT).




What I'm saying is that I don't know why you would list syrian rue/shrooms as DMT.


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