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sugarcoating vs being optimistic
    #14271240 - 04/11/11 09:08 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I've been a happy person recently, after many years of being the opposite.

But I've been thinking about this...

Is there a difference between sugarcoating and being optimistic? I feel like there's a fine line between the two, or if optimistic people just lie/sugarcoat about being happy to avoid feeling negative.

Anyone else feel the same?


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Re: sugarcoating vs being optimistic [Re: elliev]
    #14271251 - 04/11/11 09:11 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I think optimistic is a perspective where you analyze data looking for what you want. Pessimistic is a perspective looking for what you fear.

I think sugar coating has to do with sprucing up the main argument with shiny things.


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Re: sugarcoating vs being optimistic [Re: Freedom]
    #14271522 - 04/11/11 10:12 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

well said sir :thumbup:


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Re: sugarcoating vs being optimistic [Re: elliev]
    #14272313 - 04/11/11 01:10 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I have delusions of grandeur coupled with crippling self-hate doubt. :shrug:


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Re: sugarcoating vs being optimistic [Re: Brainstem]
    #14272530 - 04/11/11 01:55 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

i think im realistic, and as such i think optimistic people are just sugar coating things all the time. and all pessimistic people are just coating everything with shit all the time.

i see the good in stuff when its there but im not always trying to bend shit so that it seems happy and joyous, or depressing. take life for what it is. if it sucks, it sucks. if its goin good, its goin good.

you cant be seriously happy about everything all the time. and you cant seriously think the worst is going to happen all the time either. its not that simple, and if you make it seem that way then you are bending the truth.

thats my opinion, at least.


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Re: sugarcoating vs being optimistic [Re: Samuel L Jackson]
    #14272563 - 04/11/11 02:03 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

That's good advice Sam. :heart:


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Re: sugarcoating vs being optimistic [Re: elliev]
    #14273502 - 04/11/11 04:48 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

elliev said:
I've been a happy person recently, after many years of being the opposite.

But I've been thinking about this...

Is there a difference between sugarcoating and being optimistic? I feel like there's a fine line between the two, or if optimistic people just lie/sugarcoat about being happy to avoid feeling negative.

Anyone else feel the same?




They call "sugarcoating" positive illusions in psychology. And the vast majority of the population uses them all the time. I use them myself and they are highly adaptive. I've actively tried to be rid of them though, go figure.

Some examples are:
selective memory
illusion of control (e.g., gambling)
inflated assessment of abilities
unrealistic optimism (e.g., it'll all work out)


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Re: sugarcoating vs being optimistic [Re: Kickle]
    #14273816 - 04/11/11 05:40 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

about the positive illusions, it reminds me of studies done on people with depression. they found that people who are depressed would interpret neutral faces of emotion as negative. also if they got positive and negative feedback, the negative feedback would affect them more.

but i don't think just because your optimistic doesn't automatically mean your deluding yourself that everything is fine when it's not. i think it just means when shit goes bad you believe you'll get through it and it doesn't have to drag you down.
this quote is a good thing to sum up what i'm trying to say

"It's better to light a candle than curse the darkness"-Chinese Proverb



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Re: sugarcoating vs being optimistic [Re: bigmike7104]
    #14274694 - 04/11/11 08:33 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

i don't feel as awful for being optimistic now

everyone's opinion is splendid :heart:


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Re: sugarcoating vs being optimistic [Re: elliev]
    #14277559 - 04/12/11 11:41 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

no, the only difference is the one you create in your head to help keep yourself optimistic in the first place.

everything just IS already before we attach meaning and contradictory themes to what we perceive.


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Re: sugarcoating vs being optimistic [Re: Brainstem]
    #14277569 - 04/12/11 11:43 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Brainstem said:
I have delusions of grandeur coupled with crippling self-hate doubt. :shrug:




ha, ever tried heroin? :wink:


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Re: sugarcoating vs being optimistic [Re: Kickle]
    #14287757 - 04/14/11 12:12 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Kickle said:

They call "sugarcoating" positive illusions in psychology. And the vast majority of the population uses them all the time. I use them myself and they are highly adaptive. I've actively tried to be rid of them though, go figure.





Scraping off a few positive illusions to examine them seems like a necessary step in understanding them, no?  Afterwards one can decide whether to dedicate their life to the scraping or slather on a little icing and direct some energy elsewhere.


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