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OfflineMrs.trigger
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Re: Ingested without knowledge/help ID please? [Re: trigger]
    #14311376 - 04/18/11 10:59 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

This is just sad.

What stuck out to me the most in this thread (other than the sheer stupidity in general) is the complete LACK OF REMORSE from the OP in this.

OP, if you are reading this, please tell me you don't still blame your gf's little brother for what happened. I would hope that you would at least realize who was really at fault in this situation, otherwise you didn't learn very well from your mistake. I'm sure you already knew beforehand not to eat unidentified mushrooms, but when you pick something unidentified it is completely your responsibility to keep it in a safe place.

FFS, trigger and I have a toddler and a gluttonous feline that have full run of our house, and neither one has even come close to ingesting anything we've picked from outdoors. (And trigger is pretty much always picking stuff.) If anything like that were to happen to our kid, it would be completely on us. We would probably get negligence charges, and rightfully so.


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OfflineSmokeaJoint
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Re: Ingested without knowledge/help ID please? [Re: Mrs.trigger]
    #14311397 - 04/18/11 11:05 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

^ true that


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Re: Ingested without knowledge/help ID please? [Re: SmokeaJoint]
    #14311550 - 04/18/11 11:46 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Without the age of the younger brother known, I don't see how anyone could say it's OP's fault. If the kid was high school age or up, he's just a dumb fuck, and it's not OP's fault. But that's just my opinion.


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Re: Ingested without knowledge/help ID please? [Re: trigger]
    #14311878 - 04/18/11 01:00 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

pouihi said:
Why don't you at least try giving him a chance before banning immediately?




Its not like trigger even has a say over who gets banned or not, he's just trying to be a mini-mod.

Quote:

trigger said:
i have kids, and if anyone left galerina marinata in reach of my son, id cap there ass...




I'd hope you'd teach your son what Galerina marginata looks like and why not to eat it or any other unidentified mushrooms before that happened (If you haven't already).


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Invisibletrigger
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Re: Ingested without knowledge/help ID please? [Re: Byrain]
    #14312191 - 04/18/11 01:47 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

go ahead and defend the op, if you cant see what happened your in the same boat as him..

n i could care less to moderate,
i just think its odd that no one else mentioned that the dude that picked the deadly mushrooms and fed them to a younger person,
(regardless of intent) with out any sign of responsibility or remorse.

thats fucked and should be made clear,
hey at least i have the balls to say something.


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Offlinepouihi
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Re: Ingested without knowledge/help ID please? [Re: trigger]
    #14312273 - 04/18/11 01:59 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

trigger said:
go ahead and defend the op, if you cant see what happened your in the same boat as him..




good work on judging others, just because I'm not judgmental you automatically assume that I feed deadly mushrooms to young ones :thumbup:

And if you assumed by my post that I was defending someone, you probably should have read it all and not just in between.

Her brother could even be the same age as the op as far as I know, younger brother does not imply baby brother.


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Re: Ingested without knowledge/help ID please? [Re: trigger]
    #14312309 - 04/18/11 02:04 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

trigger said:
go ahead and defend the op, if you cant see what happened your in the same boat as him..

n i could care less to moderate,
i just think its odd that no one else mentioned that the dude that picked the deadly mushrooms and fed them to a younger person,
(regardless of intent) with out any sign of responsibility or remorse.

thats fucked and should be made clear,
hey at least i have the balls to say something.




He never said he fed them to anybody... Get your facts straight before accusing people of stuff.:facepalm:


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Re: Ingested without knowledge/help ID please? [Re: The Inner Eye]
    #14312339 - 04/18/11 02:09 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

there is a difference between judging and seeing,

areo is a peer to the kid that almost died, and that is it, not much more to it. i wouldn't leave a loaded gun for anyone to get there hands on. and maybe areo didn't know it was loaded, but he knew it was a gun.


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Re: Ingested without knowledge/help ID please? [Re: trigger]
    #14312412 - 04/18/11 02:19 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

trigger said:
go ahead and defend the op, if you cant see what happened your in the same boat as him..




Quote:

trigger said:
there is a difference between judging and seeing,




making assumptions about someone you don't know (such as "you're on he same boat") is not seeing, it's judging.

Quote:

trigger said:
areo is a peer to the kid




You could have said earlier that your personally now the type of relation they have. And maybe if they even have different ages.


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OfflineSmokeaJoint
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Re: Ingested without knowledge/help ID please? [Re: trigger]
    #14312420 - 04/18/11 02:20 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Its not a fucking gun though.


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Re: Ingested without knowledge/help ID please? [Re: SmokeaJoint]
    #14312483 - 04/18/11 02:29 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

If someone shows up to a party with mda and says it's MDMA and all the kids take double doses and die, they fucked up. Under the guise of it being a drug they harvested and ate prior to knowing what they were. If they were smarter they'd educate themselves prior to trying to get high. Nature has a way of keeping the gene pool successful, other than trailer trash, they ruin it lol.


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Re: Ingested without knowledge/help ID please? *DELETED* [Re: fngbronco]
    #14315189 - 04/19/11 12:50 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Ingested without knowledge/help ID please? [Re: Locky]
    #14325707 - 04/20/11 11:36 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I might have missed it in all my skimming, but I'm still curious to hear from the OP about what was actually done to treat him. Even if it is a viable therapy, to my knowledge the milk thistle isn't approved for use that way in the US.  Most everything I've read is pretty vague, with "supportive therapy" being the most common answer, which is basically "wait and watch"--if they stop breathing give em some air, if they start seizing, give em some antiepileptics...


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Re: Ingested without knowledge/help ID please? [Re: knarf]
    #14325743 - 04/20/11 11:44 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I hear milk thistle is good to pass things through the liver and for recovery. I know plenty of juicers that use it.


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Re: Ingested without knowledge/help ID please? [Re: knarf]
    #14326845 - 04/21/11 09:07 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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knarf said:
I might have missed it in all my skimming, but I'm still curious to hear from the OP about what was actually done to treat him. Even if it is a viable therapy, to my knowledge the milk thistle isn't approved for use that way in the US.  Most everything I've read is pretty vague, with "supportive therapy" being the most common answer, which is basically "wait and watch"--if they stop breathing give em some air, if they start seizing, give em some antiepileptics...




While I can't answer your question to the OP, the therapy you are asking about (using silibinin (Legalon SIL is the official drug name) and a bile duct shunt) is in limited testing being overseen by Dr. Todd Mitchell.  More information here:http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT00915681


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Re: Ingested without knowledge/help ID please? [Re: LanLord]
    #14605208 - 06/13/11 09:42 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Did the kid survive?


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Re: Ingested without knowledge/help ID please? [Re: The Mad Shroomer]
    #14605219 - 06/13/11 09:45 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah, im sure he did


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Re: Ingested without knowledge/help ID please? [Re: Locky]
    #14605753 - 06/13/11 11:41 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

anyone ever consider the possibility that OP posted a bs story to make this into a flame thread?


at any rate, if it is real I'd vote this one in for a darwin award. in this day and age everyone knows don't eat mushrooms unless you're sure you know what it is... it's not like there aren't several headline reports about vacationers eating bad mushrooms.

sorry if it seems un-sympathetic or if this is gonna piss anyone off but i think the last thing they should have done is post something here in the forums for us to jabber over - anyone truly concerned about misc./unknown mushroom ingestion should go in for observation at a medical facility and leave the decisions/discussion for medical professionals.


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Re: Ingested without knowledge/help ID please? [Re: PrecariousCibarius]
    #14605770 - 06/13/11 11:45 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Yea, I considered it but who knows :shrug:


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Re: Ingested without knowledge/help ID please? [Re: PrecariousCibarius]
    #14606019 - 06/13/11 12:38 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

PrecariousCibarius said:
anyone ever consider the possibility that OP posted a bs story to make this into a flame thread?


at any rate, if it is real I'd vote this one in for a darwin award. in this day and age everyone knows don't eat mushrooms unless you're sure you know what it is... it's not like there aren't several headline reports about vacationers eating bad mushrooms.

sorry if it seems un-sympathetic or if this is gonna piss anyone off but i think the last thing they should have done is post something here in the forums for us to jabber over - anyone truly concerned about misc./unknown mushroom ingestion should go in for observation at a medical facility and leave the decisions/discussion for medical professionals.



I think pretty much everyone thought he was full of shit, but OP did eventually post a pic of the mushroom sample on top of some hospital equipment :shrug:
As for people not eating random mushrooms, NEVER underestimate stupidity... Let me quote someone from this thread...
Quote:

bitepourrie said:
More rain in Central Luzon ... more mushroom ... see mushroom galore we eat them all even we dont know who they are




I do agree that getting on the internet and asking for help is not the most effective way to solve the problem though... He definitely should have just gone to the hospital ASAP.
Gotta give props to the Shroomery though for recognizing those Galerinas instantly and basically saving that kids life :thumbup:


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