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need a bit of advice here (spice vs weed)
    #14269657 - 04/10/11 10:09 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

so today i decided to try some spice (not JWH) but some stuff from the head shop, it was interesting, a little weed ish but definitely a different feel.

anyways im a former weed addict (don't debate it, if you disagree about the addictiveness of weed just pretend it's a hypothetical situation in some magical world where weed is addictive)

and i had some pretty nasty withdrawals after i quit weed, but it's been a while and everythings fine back to normal, seems like im in a good place and have been for some time

is it bad to smoke this stuff? in that is it to similar to weed for it to be safer to smoke?


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Re: need a bit of advice here (spice vs weed) [Re: thedudeman]
    #14269692 - 04/10/11 10:14 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

What I've found, and you basically described what I just went through, is that you smoke this stuff moderately. I found that smoking a little would get me high especially if it was right after I woke up from like an 8 hour sleep. I found that a little would get me high and that tolerance built quickly but it also went away after a good 5 to 8 hours of just not smoking. The high came on quick in little amounts, so you can kinda save money. But it also went away pretty quick (I'd say like 2 hours). That's been my experience with the local shit at the local headshop. :2cents:

Edit: Don't smoke a lot. There definitely is a "holy shit this is scary" part, at least for me. Just get high and let it go. You can't just bake bake bake like weed.


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Re: need a bit of advice here (spice vs weed) [Re: thedudeman]
    #14269706 - 04/10/11 10:16 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I've smoked different blends exclusively for 6 months. And I'm done now that I don't have to I couldn't be happier I can smoke the real deal.

They have worse withdrawls effects then weed. You build a tolerance 10x faster making the habit 10 times more expensive.. after awhile you'll feel like shit just from smoking them and you don't even get any of the medicinal effects pot provides. Smoke pot leave this shit alone or don't smoke at all I guess.

Ps by tolerance and money being an issue. With these good blends costing like 20 a gram where I live they last about 1/5th as long as a gram of dank weed.


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Re: need a bit of advice here (spice vs weed) [Re: AbstraKt_I_Am]
    #14269788 - 04/10/11 10:34 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

nature made MJ, a man in a white coat made JWH.
MJ has been used for thousands of years, JWH just a few.


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Re: need a bit of advice here (spice vs weed) [Re: monkiman]
    #14269789 - 04/10/11 10:36 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

monkiman said:
nature made MJ, a man in a white coat made JWH.
MJ has been used for thousands of years, JWH just a few.




With that logic LSD is lame, which is :thumbdown: logic. Its an alternative. If you don't like it, don't do it, but some people just want to get high before they sleep at the end of their day but they can't due to legal issues.


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Re: need a bit of advice here (spice vs weed) [Re: AbstraKt_I_Am]
    #14269793 - 04/10/11 10:37 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

if you get on the sites that have blends cheap its like 8 an ounce for dank ass blends then if you switch them up tolerance is really not an issue. Its neat as you can have a sleepy on at night then a speedy one for the day. They are overpriced in headshops by a few hundred percent but ok to grab if you are out of weed otherwise.

OP if you know it was not JWH was it an AM or a WIN? they are really all similar anyway.


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Re: need a bit of advice here (spice vs weed) [Re: Joolz]
    #14269856 - 04/10/11 10:52 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Joolz said:
Quote:

monkiman said:
nature made MJ, a man in a white coat made JWH.
MJ has been used for thousands of years, JWH just a few.




With that logic LSD is lame, which is :thumbdown: logic. Its an alternative. If you don't like it, don't do it, but some people just want to get high before they sleep at the end of their day but they can't due to legal issues.



for legal issues i say fair enough, LSD is generally not used everyday so its not really the same.


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Re: need a bit of advice here (spice vs weed) [Re: monkiman]
    #14269880 - 04/10/11 10:58 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

In a perfect world I would drop a very light dose of LSD in my morning water to boost my everything. But of course we can't do that because we don't know for sure what acid we're getting or the dosages on the blotter.


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Re: need a bit of advice here (spice vs weed) [Re: thedudeman]
    #14269909 - 04/10/11 11:03 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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thedudeman said:
so today i decided to try some spice (not JWH) but some stuff from the head shop, it was interesting, a little weed ish but definitely a different feel.




Not JWH?  How do you know?  Most of the head shop blends are JWH.


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Re: need a bit of advice here (spice vs weed) [Re: BothHands]
    #14270011 - 04/10/11 11:27 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

because JWH is illegal where i live


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Re: need a bit of advice here (spice vs weed) [Re: thedudeman]
    #14270018 - 04/10/11 11:28 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Which JWH?  There are hundreds.

Several are illegal here, but there are always more replacements.


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Re: need a bit of advice here (spice vs weed) [Re: thedudeman]
    #14270031 - 04/10/11 11:30 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

also i wanted an answer to, is it okay to smoke this stuff if you can't handle normal marijuana

not sure exactly which JWH, they said it didnt contain and wasn't jwh, but they may have been wrong


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Re: need a bit of advice here (spice vs weed) [Re: thedudeman]
    #14270056 - 04/10/11 11:35 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Oh really?  Then it's probably AM-2201.  Still pretty much a JWH, just synthesized by someone else.


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Re: need a bit of advice here (spice vs weed) [Re: argg]
    #14270219 - 04/11/11 12:15 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

argg said:
With that logic LSD is lame, which is  logic. Its an alternative. If you don't like it, don't do it, but some people just want to get high before they sleep at the end of their day but they can't due to legal issues.




Not exactly, nature made LSD-25 it just took the brains of a man to figure out how to isolate it.


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Re: need a bit of advice here (spice vs weed) [Re: psychedelia56]
    #14270233 - 04/11/11 12:18 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

That's not true at all.


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Re: need a bit of advice here (spice vs weed) [Re: BothHands] * 1
    #14270241 - 04/11/11 12:19 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Nature created homo sapiens, too, so indirectly nature makes everything we make.

It is true on some level.


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Re: need a bit of advice here (spice vs weed) [Re: AbstraKt_I_Am]
    #14270243 - 04/11/11 12:20 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

AbstraKt_I_Am said:
I've smoked different blends exclusively for 6 months. And I'm done now that I don't have to I couldn't be happier I can smoke the real deal.

They have worse withdrawls effects then weed. You build a tolerance 10x faster making the habit 10 times more expensive.. after awhile you'll feel like shit just from smoking them and you don't even get any of the medicinal effects pot provides. Smoke pot leave this shit alone or don't smoke at all I guess.

Ps by tolerance and money being an issue. With these good blends costing like 20 a gram where I live they last about 1/5th as long as a gram of dank weed.



i get this stuff called
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11 Grams for 25 bucks... keeps me baked all month long.


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Re: need a bit of advice here (spice vs weed) [Re: psychedelia56]
    #14270268 - 04/11/11 12:25 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

psychedelia56 said:
Nature created homo sapiens, too, so indirectly nature makes everything we make.

It is true on some level.




Are you retarded?


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Re: need a bit of advice here (spice vs weed) [Re: BothHands]
    #14270275 - 04/11/11 12:27 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

BothHands said:
Quote:

psychedelia56 said:
Nature created homo sapiens, too, so indirectly nature makes everything we make.

It is true on some level.




Are you retarded?




Maybe he's the smart one and you're the retarded one? :shrug: What's in name calling anyways.


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Re: need a bit of advice here (spice vs weed) [Re: Joolz]
    #14270312 - 04/11/11 12:38 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Ok, let's put this conversation into one post.

monkiman: JWH is man made, weed is natural.  JWH is bad, weed is good.

joolz: By that logic, LSD is bad

Him: No, LSD is natural

Me: No it's not.

Him: Well it sorta is cuse we made it.


Now go back and look at the context.  JWH is man made too, and in his context natural.  So his implication that LSD is natural and JWH isn't is ridiculous.  It's both or neither.

I wouldn't normally have said anything about the comment, but in this particular context, it's retarded.


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