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Toddler Rushed to Hospital After Reportedly Being Served Alcohol at Applebee's
#14269531 - 04/10/11 09:49 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/04/10/toddler-reportedly-served-alcohol-applebees/?test=latestnews
A 15-month-old boy was rushed to a hospital after he was accidentally served alcohol in a kids' meal at a Michigan Applebee’s, MyFoxDetroit.com reports.
Taylor Dill-Reese, the boy’s mother, said her son started acting strangely Friday at the Madison Heights restaurant after drinking from his sippy cup what she thought was apple juice. When Dill-Reese tasted the drink, it turns out it was margarita mix, according to MyFoxDetroit.com.
The boy was taken to the hospital, where he was examined by doctors. The family later learned the boy’s alcohol level was .10 – over the legal limit for an adult driver. The boy was later checked out of the hospital.
"Nobody at the table ordered alcoholic drinks," Dill-Reese told the station. "So, he definitely shouldn't have received one."
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Re: Toddler Rushed to Hospital After Reportedly Being Served Alcohol at Applebee's [Re: 5-HT2A]
#14269604 - 04/10/11 09:59 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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$$ for parents
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Re: Toddler Rushed to Hospital After Reportedly Being Served Alcohol at Applebee's [Re: Run]
#14269696 - 04/10/11 10:15 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah, they are about to make BANK $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ CHA CHING
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Re: Toddler Rushed to Hospital After Reportedly Being Served Alcohol at Applebee's [Re: Run]
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Re: Toddler Rushed to Hospital After Reportedly Being Served Alcohol at Applebee's [Re: JesusGoneRogue]
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Re: Toddler Rushed to Hospital After Reportedly Being Served Alcohol at Applebee's [Re: 5-HT2A]
#14269986 - 04/10/11 11:21 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Psh. I drank my first beer at the age of 2. Voluntarily. That baby just needs to learn to handle its booze.
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Re: Toddler Rushed to Hospital After Reportedly Being Served Alcohol at Applebee's [Re: Remix]
#14270196 - 04/11/11 12:10 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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not that big a deal, kids drank alcohol all the time when they could. One of my ex's was german and she started drinking at like five.
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Re: Toddler Rushed to Hospital After Reportedly Being Served Alcohol at Applebee's [Re: plustax]
#14270318 - 04/11/11 12:41 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Unless they can somehow prove this was done purposefully these parents deserve nothing more than an apology and the hospital bills paid for...
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Re: Toddler Rushed to Hospital After Reportedly Being Served Alcohol at Applebee's [Re: Ojom]
#14270476 - 04/11/11 02:03 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ojom said: Unless they can somehow prove this was done purposefully these parents deserve nothing more than an apology and the hospital bills paid for...
Agreed. Accidents happen and just because they happen, doesn't mean people deserve anything. A small place doesn't need to get sued just because of it.
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Re: Toddler Rushed to Hospital After Reportedly Being Served Alcohol at Applebee's [Re: Darklight203]
#14270478 - 04/11/11 02:06 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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they should be sued shitless
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Re: Toddler Rushed to Hospital After Reportedly Being Served Alcohol at Applebee's [Re: Cherk]
#14270526 - 04/11/11 02:27 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Can you imagine the world if everyone just sued people to death? Shit happens, and we can condemn people to life in prison, or give them permanent records, but really...suing doesn't do much besides compensate for what...stress? This isn't the situation for suing. As a parent, with my two children, I taste everything that goes into their mouth, at least when they were under 2 years. Parents need to know what their kids are drinking, not the people in restaurants.
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Re: Toddler Rushed to Hospital After Reportedly Being Served Alcohol at Applebee's [Re: Darklight203]
#14270629 - 04/11/11 03:33 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Needless to say that it's not unheard of that some people would deliberately change the apple juice for a margerita they snuck in to later claim fat damages in court. Especially in the US where you can initially demand some absolutely ludicrous amount like 46 billion dollars, only to settle for 3.5 million later. Seriously, that always seemed to me like what it would be like when two 4 years olds play fantasy legal system in kindergarten.
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Re: Toddler Rushed to Hospital After Reportedly Being Served Alcohol at Applebee's [Re: Darklight203]
#14270844 - 04/11/11 06:41 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Darklight203 said: Can you imagine the world if everyone just sued people to death? Shit happens, and we can condemn people to life in prison, or give them permanent records, but really...suing doesn't do much besides compensate for what...stress? This isn't the situation for suing. As a parent, with my two children, I taste everything that goes into their mouth, at least when they were under 2 years. Parents need to know what their kids are drinking, not the people in restaurants.
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Re: Toddler Rushed to Hospital After Reportedly Being Served Alcohol at Applebee's [Re: Maharishi_2_U]
#14270928 - 04/11/11 07:15 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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They should definitely sue, and go for large punitive damages. They will settle out of court and come out better for it. This is Applebees, not some mom and pop shop. Major corporations don't learn their lesson until large punitive damages are awarded, or threatened in the lawsuit.
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Re: Toddler Rushed to Hospital After Reportedly Being Served Alcohol at Applebee's [Re: myco99]
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myco99 said: They should definitely sue, and go for large punitive damages. They will settle out of court and come out better for it. This is Applebees, not some mom and pop shop. Major corporations don't learn their lesson until large punitive damages are awarded, or threatened in the lawsuit.
Large corporations don't learn shit except they have good lawyers and a big spending budget. It's the stupid young person that served the child alcohol. In order for a business to be a business, they need competent workers and strict regulation. The one idiot that served an alcoholic drink to a child is the fault, not the company. Either that or the parents who just wanted to sue the fuck out of someone like GK suggested. Parents need to regulate what their kids get, not fucking Applebee's.
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Re: Toddler Rushed to Hospital After Reportedly Being Served Alcohol at Applebee's [Re: Darklight203]
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Darklight203 said:
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myco99 said: They should definitely sue, and go for large punitive damages. They will settle out of court and come out better for it. This is Applebees, not some mom and pop shop. Major corporations don't learn their lesson until large punitive damages are awarded, or threatened in the lawsuit.
Large corporations don't learn shit except they have good lawyers and a big spending budget. It's the stupid young person that served the child alcohol. In order for a business to be a business, they need competent workers and strict regulation. The one idiot that served an alcoholic drink to a child is the fault, not the company. Either that or the parents who just wanted to sue the fuck out of someone like GK suggested. Parents need to regulate what their kids get, not fucking Applebee's.
I agree that parents should regulate what their children intake. That said, your point is irrelevant. The only relevant issue is whether Applebees was negligent in serving alcohol to the minor, as alcohol was ostensibly not ordered.
Suppose Applebees had served food made with peanuts to an allergic person who specifically asked for food not prepared with peanuts. Suppose the child had a disease which rendered him dead as a result of the alcohol. Would either of these events be worthy of a lawsuit?
Finally, the fact that one employee committed the error does not mean shit in terms of torts jurisprudence.
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Re: Toddler Rushed to Hospital After Reportedly Being Served Alcohol at Applebee's [Re: myco99]
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myco99 said: They should definitely sue, and go for large punitive damages. They will settle out of court and come out better for it. This is Applebees, not some mom and pop shop. Major corporations don't learn their lesson until large punitive damages are awarded, or threatened in the lawsuit.
Large corporations don't learn shit except they have good lawyers and a big spending budget. It's the stupid young person that served the child alcohol. In order for a business to be a business, they need competent workers and strict regulation. The one idiot that served an alcoholic drink to a child is the fault, not the company. Either that or the parents who just wanted to sue the fuck out of someone like GK suggested. Parents need to regulate what their kids get, not fucking Applebee's.
I agree that parents should regulate what their children intake. That said, your point is irrelevant. The only relevant issue is whether Applebees was negligent in serving alcohol to the minor, as alcohol was ostensibly not ordered.
Suppose Applebees had served food made with peanuts to an allergic person who specifically asked for food not prepared with peanuts. Suppose the child had a disease which rendered him dead as a result of the alcohol. Would either of these events be worthy of a lawsuit?
Finally, the fact that one employee committed the error does not mean shit in terms of torts jurisprudence.
As the child is incapable of regulating his own food/drink, it is in the best interest of the parents to provide healthy food for the child. The company should pay, but so should the individual if you think justice is on the line. The child was not served peanuts, nor allergic to them. The child was not dead as a result. "What is" and "What can be" are not the same thing. You really do *HAVE* to accept that life isn't always perfect or fair, and children do die as a result of neglect. This is not that case, the case is, people served food and drinks and the child received alcohol. This article is neither full in recognition of responsibility or accurate information. Parents should taste/try most foods that their children get, if anyone is responsible for the child winding up in the ER, it's the parents. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
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Re: Toddler Rushed to Hospital After Reportedly Being Served Alcohol at Applebee's [Re: Darklight203]
#14271077 - 04/11/11 08:15 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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myco99 said: They should definitely sue, and go for large punitive damages. They will settle out of court and come out better for it. This is Applebees, not some mom and pop shop. Major corporations don't learn their lesson until large punitive damages are awarded, or threatened in the lawsuit.
Large corporations don't learn shit except they have good lawyers and a big spending budget. It's the stupid young person that served the child alcohol. In order for a business to be a business, they need competent workers and strict regulation. The one idiot that served an alcoholic drink to a child is the fault, not the company. Either that or the parents who just wanted to sue the fuck out of someone like GK suggested. Parents need to regulate what their kids get, not fucking Applebee's.
I agree that parents should regulate what their children intake. That said, your point is irrelevant. The only relevant issue is whether Applebees was negligent in serving alcohol to the minor, as alcohol was ostensibly not ordered.
Suppose Applebees had served food made with peanuts to an allergic person who specifically asked for food not prepared with peanuts. Suppose the child had a disease which rendered him dead as a result of the alcohol. Would either of these events be worthy of a lawsuit?
Finally, the fact that one employee committed the error does not mean shit in terms of torts jurisprudence.
As the child is incapable of regulating his own food/drink, it is in the best interest of the parents to provide healthy food for the child. The company should pay, but so should the individual if you think justice is on the line. The child was not served peanuts, nor allergic to them. The child was not dead as a result. "What is" and "What can be" are not the same thing. You really do *HAVE* to accept that life isn't always perfect or fair, and children do die as a result of neglect. This is not that case, the case is, people served food and drinks and the child received alcohol. This article is neither full in recognition of responsibility or accurate information. Parents should taste/try most foods that their children get, if anyone is responsible for the child winding up in the ER, it's the parents. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
Well, you stick to your story, I'll stick to reality. In this reality, Applebees is going to be sued if these people have any sense. I think they were grossly negligent to serve alcohol to a minor, and their lawyers will probably agree with me on the way to a nice settlement for the family.
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Re: Toddler Rushed to Hospital After Reportedly Being Served Alcohol at Applebee's [Re: myco99]
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myco99 said: They should definitely sue, and go for large punitive damages. They will settle out of court and come out better for it. This is Applebees, not some mom and pop shop. Major corporations don't learn their lesson until large punitive damages are awarded, or threatened in the lawsuit.
Large corporations don't learn shit except they have good lawyers and a big spending budget. It's the stupid young person that served the child alcohol. In order for a business to be a business, they need competent workers and strict regulation. The one idiot that served an alcoholic drink to a child is the fault, not the company. Either that or the parents who just wanted to sue the fuck out of someone like GK suggested. Parents need to regulate what their kids get, not fucking Applebee's.
I agree that parents should regulate what their children intake. That said, your point is irrelevant. The only relevant issue is whether Applebees was negligent in serving alcohol to the minor, as alcohol was ostensibly not ordered.
Suppose Applebees had served food made with peanuts to an allergic person who specifically asked for food not prepared with peanuts. Suppose the child had a disease which rendered him dead as a result of the alcohol. Would either of these events be worthy of a lawsuit?
Finally, the fact that one employee committed the error does not mean shit in terms of torts jurisprudence.
I guess I can't speak the truth. Poor kid, I agree, but it was NOT fully the Applebee's employee's fault. If you have a child in this life, you need to test their food. We have been doing that for centuries and it saves lives.
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Re: Toddler Rushed to Hospital After Reportedly Being Served Alcohol at Applebee's [Re: Darklight203]
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I normally would say that they should sue, but this isn't one of those cases. Applebee's should pay for hospital bill and figure out why this happened. Maybe it was a mistake, or maybe it was on purpose. Oddly enough, if they checked ID then this could have been prevented.
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Re: Toddler Rushed to Hospital After Reportedly Being Served Alcohol at Applebee's [Re: MidRange]
#14271408 - 04/11/11 09:46 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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why the fuck would margarita mix be in a sippy cup in the first place? haha..
no one walks up to the bar and is like, "yeah.. rum n coke.. and can you put it in a baby bottle for me?' hahaha
even if someone at the table ordered a drink, there was no reason to have it in a childs container to begin with.. that kind of negligence could have killed that child..
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Re: Toddler Rushed to Hospital After Reportedly Being Served Alcohol at Applebee's [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
#14271712 - 04/11/11 11:10 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Isn't it obvious that the parents set this up?
What bartender is gonna put booze in a sippy cup and send it out?
Sorry, but something stinks.
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Re: Toddler Rushed to Hospital After Reportedly Being Served Alcohol at Applebee's [Re: amilibertine]
#14271981 - 04/11/11 12:08 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thats funny to think of the baby being hammered
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Re: Toddler Rushed to Hospital After Reportedly Being Served Alcohol at Applebee's [Re: masterfluffypants]
#14272179 - 04/11/11 12:41 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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lucky bastard got a free drink. Wish this would happen to me while i was out.
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Re: Toddler Rushed to Hospital After Reportedly Being Served Alcohol at Applebee's [Re: jvm]
#14272338 - 04/11/11 01:15 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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how in the hell did they accidentally serve a margarita in a kids sippy cup? i dont understand how this could happen, the only thing i can think of is an employee using the kids cup to drink margaritas at work (it has a lid and you likely couldnt see through it) and getting it mixed up.
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Re: Toddler Rushed to Hospital After Reportedly Being Served Alcohol at Applebee's [Re: 5-HT2A]
#14272450 - 04/11/11 01:40 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I still think suing is wrong. It's like putting a price on a human life. Money won't fix the fact that the child was served alcohol or the fact that the worker may have been negligent. Accidents happen and suing for a large settlement just points out your greed.
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Re: Toddler Rushed to Hospital After Reportedly Being Served Alcohol at Applebee's [Re: destructo_low]
#14272588 - 04/11/11 02:09 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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This is most likely a planned scheme between them and/or someone they know that works at the restaurant.
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Re: Toddler Rushed to Hospital After Reportedly Being Served Alcohol at Applebee's [Re: hesus321]
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That is the stupidest headline I have ever read. Haha
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Re: Toddler Rushed to Hospital After Reportedly Being Served Alcohol at Applebee's [Re: fbi365]
#14272874 - 04/11/11 03:02 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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this is not the first time this has happened either. it happened before at an applebees a few years ago. link
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Re: Toddler Rushed to Hospital After Reportedly Being Served Alcohol at Applebee's [Re: awakendone]
#14273009 - 04/11/11 03:29 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Considering the beverage served was supposed to be apple juice, and what was served was margarita mixer instead, I'm inclined to think the two are kept in similar serving devices behind the bar. Rather than grabbing the apple juice container the bartender grabbed the margarita mixer by mistake...
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Re: Toddler Rushed to Hospital After Reportedly Being Served Alcohol at Applebee's [Re: Ojom]
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It could have also been fermented apple juice. I have had a Caprisun before that smelled and tasted like wine.
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Re: Toddler Rushed to Hospital After Reportedly Being Served Alcohol at Applebee's [Re: amilibertine]
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amilibertine said: Isn't it obvious that the parents set this up?
What bartender is gonna put booze in a sippy cup and send it out?
Sorry, but something stinks.
This is what I'm thinking. most of the time those corporate joints are super strict about alcohol. I mean people go to places like that for cheap shitty happy hour drinks, but I doubt that they'd throw some into a sippy cup for you. I wait tables on the weekend. People are always bringing sippy cups full of whatever in for their young kids. I honestly think that the parents are probably strapped for cash and trying to sue the company or maybe the server was mentally ill. Those seem like the two most probable scenarios.
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Re: Toddler Rushed to Hospital After Reportedly Being Served Alcohol at Applebee's [Re: mr_minds_eye]
#14273767 - 04/11/11 05:33 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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This defiantly sounds fishy.
Even if the restaurant is at fault... they should be held responsible and forced to pay hospital bills, maybe lose their liquor license for a few weeks/months. But awarding millions of dollars to the family really doesn't do anything, and anyone who demands absurd amounts of money after an accident happens is a greedy, scum of the earth, piece of shit in my opinion.
I could see if the kid did die or something...
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Re: Toddler Rushed to Hospital After Reportedly Being Served Alcohol at Applebee's [Re: Subconscious]
#14273998 - 04/11/11 06:13 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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First off, how the hell do you mistake the childs cup (normally with cartoon characters on it) for an adults to even put the mix in?
I dont believe in the fact of suing every thing and every one, but its going to come and they WILL get something out of it. Remember the dumb old lady that burned her skin off because no one told her that the COFFEE she bought at mcdonalds was HOT? I think she made a few million for being the worst definition of an american you can be...oh yea and a fucking dumbass. The employees are representatives of the company. They were hired through the applebees corporation standards for employment. So, they are liable for the actions of their employees because, essencially they are the company. If I had cussed out one of my customers, I would be fired, but the company would face the reprecussions of my actions because I was hired according to their standards and am a part of the companys work force. Having a low standard for their employees puts customers at risk of being insulted or in this case, served alcohol that, though it didnt, could have killed the child. That is definitely grounds for a lawsuit. If I were to talk to my customers about how to remove or remedy lead based paints and what I said was not to EPA standards and practices for handling such an instance, even though they didnt get lead poisoning, the EPA would sue the shit out of my company for giving advice that POTENTIALLY could have caused someone( not even the person doing the work,but a passer-by) to get lead poisoning. This is AMERICA! You can sue for a tree heaving up a sidewalk, you trip and skin your knee and have a hard time putting on clothes, which makes you late for work, which causes you pain and suffering for having to get up an extra 20 min. That is worth a couple thousand dollars for a fucking tree trying to survive. If you have the money or a shifty lawyer willing to take the case you better believe that you can get plenty out of anything.
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Re: Toddler Rushed to Hospital After Reportedly Being Served Alcohol at Applebee's [Re: DoDahDay]
#14274364 - 04/11/11 07:17 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I don't think anyone denies that you "can" sue anyone for pretty much anything in America.
What people are trying to point out is that it's a total scumbag thing to do, and really only proves how greedy people are.
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Re: Toddler Rushed to Hospital After Reportedly Being Served Alcohol at Applebee's [Re: Subconscious]
#14274535 - 04/11/11 07:58 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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What people are trying to point out is that it's a total scumbag thing to do, and really only proves how greedy people are.
I would say it's also a sign of a lack of community, and not just horribly greedy people.
When a culture is without a certain sense of community people tend to isolate themselves and view everybody else as "competition" who, in one way or another, are infringing on their quest to "get a piece of the pie". There is no collective sense, really, because the culture is so individualistic. It, therefore, really allows people to not see the collective consequences of suing the shit out of someone else in their community.
It's also a sign of a shitty economy. People let stupid stuff slide a lot more and tend to be quite compassionate when their lifestyle isn't threatened by the anxiety of possibly losing their house/job/car...ect.
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Re: Toddler Rushed to Hospital After Reportedly Being Served Alcohol at Applebee's [Re: Remix]
#14274666 - 04/11/11 08:28 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Word! Totally agreed to both. No coelescense. It has gotten out of hand. This is the world we live in.
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Re: Toddler Rushed to Hospital After Reportedly Being Served Alcohol at Applebee's [Re: myco99]
#14274839 - 04/11/11 08:57 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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myco99 said: They should definitely sue, and go for large punitive damages. They will settle out of court and come out better for it. This is Applebees, not some mom and pop shop. Major corporations don't learn their lesson until large punitive damages are awarded, or threatened in the lawsuit.
That's the question of vicarious liability - why should this company (who realistically had nothing to do with the employee's negligence) be forced to compensate the family? Can an individual really be responsible for the actions of another?
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Re: Toddler Rushed to Hospital After Reportedly Being Served Alcohol at Applebee's [Re: user1837483975]
#14275961 - 04/12/11 12:30 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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myco99 said: They should definitely sue, and go for large punitive damages. They will settle out of court and come out better for it. This is Applebees, not some mom and pop shop. Major corporations don't learn their lesson until large punitive damages are awarded, or threatened in the lawsuit.
That's the question of vicarious liability - why should this company (who realistically had nothing to do with the employee's negligence) be forced to compensate the family? Can an individual really be responsible for the actions of another?
I suspect you work in management...
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Re: Toddler Rushed to Hospital After Reportedly Being Served Alcohol at Applebee's [Re: Ojom]
#14276223 - 04/12/11 01:39 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Why? What he is saying is accurate. If some worker at Walmart killed everyone, its not Walmart's fault.
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Re: Toddler Rushed to Hospital After Reportedly Being Served Alcohol at Applebee's [Re: user1837483975]
#14276533 - 04/12/11 04:42 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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myco99 said: They should definitely sue, and go for large punitive damages. They will settle out of court and come out better for it. This is Applebees, not some mom and pop shop. Major corporations don't learn their lesson until large punitive damages are awarded, or threatened in the lawsuit.
That's the question of vicarious liability - why should this company (who realistically had nothing to do with the employee's negligence) be forced to compensate the family? Can an individual really be responsible for the actions of another?
"Someone" won't be forced to pay, the corporation will. The company did have something to do with the employee's negligence, in that they trained this employee. I think it is important to remember the principle here. Although this case was just a little kid drinking some alcohol and catching a buzz, it could have ended in death if the kid had liver issues or something. Likewise, on the principle of the matter, this could have been someone allergic to peanuts who died after being served food prepared with peanuts. The point is, restaurants have to be responsible for serving what patrons request.
Finally, any mistake or negligence perpetrated within a company always boils down to X number of employees who are involved. This does not mean that the company itself is free from lawsuits. It would never be the case that a company, as an abstract concept, was negligent in some action. It is always the employees; the physical manifestation of the abstract concept of a company, who perform negligent actions on behalf of the company.
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Re: Toddler Rushed to Hospital After Reportedly Being Served Alcohol at Applebee's [Re: myco99]
#14276574 - 04/12/11 05:05 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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myco99 said: They should definitely sue, and go for large punitive damages. They will settle out of court and come out better for it. This is Applebees, not some mom and pop shop. Major corporations don't learn their lesson until large punitive damages are awarded, or threatened in the lawsuit.
That's the question of vicarious liability - why should this company (who realistically had nothing to do with the employee's negligence) be forced to compensate the family? Can an individual really be responsible for the actions of another?
"Someone" won't be forced to pay, the corporation will. The company did have something to do with the employee's negligence, in that they trained this employee. I think it is important to remember the principle here. Although this case was just a little kid drinking some alcohol and catching a buzz, it could have ended in death if the kid had liver issues or something. Likewise, on the principle of the matter, this could have been someone allergic to peanuts who died after being served food prepared with peanuts. The point is, restaurants have to be responsible for serving what patrons request.
Finally, any mistake or negligence perpetrated within a company always boils down to X number of employees who are involved. This does not mean that the company itself is free from lawsuits. It would never be the case that a company, as an abstract concept, was negligent in some action. It is always the employees; the physical manifestation of the abstract concept of a company, who perform negligent actions on behalf of the company.
You are assuming that there is some failure on the part of the company to do with training, and that may be the case - but I am saying that sometimes no amount of training or education can prevent people from making mistakes. In those cases, one could argue that a company should not be held liable for the negligence of their employee if there was nothing that they could reasonably have done to prevent the incident from occurring.
Personally I think the company should compensate the parents, as they failed to ensure the safety of their customers who they owed a duty of care. Even though it may have been completely out of their control they are still responsible.
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Re: Toddler Rushed to Hospital After Reportedly Being Served Alcohol at Applebee's [Re: user1837483975]
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myco99 said: They should definitely sue, and go for large punitive damages. They will settle out of court and come out better for it. This is Applebees, not some mom and pop shop. Major corporations don't learn their lesson until large punitive damages are awarded, or threatened in the lawsuit.
That's the question of vicarious liability - why should this company (who realistically had nothing to do with the employee's negligence) be forced to compensate the family? Can an individual really be responsible for the actions of another?
"Someone" won't be forced to pay, the corporation will. The company did have something to do with the employee's negligence, in that they trained this employee. I think it is important to remember the principle here. Although this case was just a little kid drinking some alcohol and catching a buzz, it could have ended in death if the kid had liver issues or something. Likewise, on the principle of the matter, this could have been someone allergic to peanuts who died after being served food prepared with peanuts. The point is, restaurants have to be responsible for serving what patrons request.
Finally, any mistake or negligence perpetrated within a company always boils down to X number of employees who are involved. This does not mean that the company itself is free from lawsuits. It would never be the case that a company, as an abstract concept, was negligent in some action. It is always the employees; the physical manifestation of the abstract concept of a company, who perform negligent actions on behalf of the company.
You are assuming that there is some failure on the part of the company to do with training, and that may be the case - but I am saying that sometimes no amount of training or education can prevent people from making mistakes. In those cases, one could argue that a company should not be held liable for the negligence of their employee if there was nothing that they could reasonably have done to prevent the incident from occurring.
Personally I think the company should compensate the parents, as they failed to ensure the safety of their customers who they owed a duty of care. Even though it may have been completely out of their control they are still responsible.
I understand what you are saying, but for the sake of society, companies must be held responsible for employee's actions. This is a staple of Western jurisprudence, without which, companies would offer even less training to employees (to save money) because they know any negligent act will be the direct and only fault of the employee, not the company. Surely you can see how this is an issue.
Also, I think with very reasonable training an employee can be taught to not make this mistake.
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Re: Toddler Rushed to Hospital After Reportedly Being Served Alcohol at Applebee's [Re: myco99]
#14276652 - 04/12/11 06:01 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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And a trial is the way to determine how much, if any, liability the company actually holds. Was it a training error? Or an employee prank gone wrong?
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Re: Toddler Rushed to Hospital After Reportedly Being Served Alcohol at Applebee's [Re: Doc_T]
#14276874 - 04/12/11 08:10 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Doc_T said: And a trial is the way to determine how much, if any, liability the company actually holds. Was it a training error? Or an employee prank gone wrong?
Well said, Doc. I swear I feel older and older arguing with the youthful idealists on Shroomery. Sigh
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Re: Toddler Rushed to Hospital After Reportedly Being Served Alcohol at Applebee's [Re: myco99]
#14276885 - 04/12/11 08:24 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Remember that the media likes to leave out important facts in cases like these. They just report headlines with no detail on what has actually happened.
http://www.cracked.com/article_19150_6-famous-frivolous-lawsuit-stories-that-are-total-b.s..html
Of course, in this case it sounds like someone being a complete dumbass. There's no "accidentally" putting a margarita mixture into a sippy cup instead of apple juice.
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Re: Toddler Rushed to Hospital After Reportedly Being Served Alcohol at Applebee's [Re: Rabid Jelly Bean]
#14276913 - 04/12/11 08:36 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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This applebees jackass needs a few doses in his sippy cup. 15 monthes is way too young.
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Re: Toddler Rushed to Hospital After Reportedly Being Served Alcohol at Applebee's [Re: Rabid Jelly Bean]
#14276945 - 04/12/11 08:46 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Rabid Jelly Bean said: There's no "accidentally" putting a margarita mixture into a sippy cup instead of apple juice.
I can imagine being out of apple juice and substituting lemonade.
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Applebee's Changes Policy After Toddler Accidentally Served Alcohol [Re: Doc_T]
#14281247 - 04/12/11 10:56 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Update:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/04/12/applebees-changes-policy-toddler-accidentally-served-alcohol/?test=latestnews
The Applebee’s restaurant chain is changing the way it serves juice after a 15-month-old boy was accidentally served alcohol at a Michigan location.
The restaurants now will use single-serve containers to pour juice for children, the Detroit Free Press reported Tuesday.
Taylor Dill-Reese, the boy’s mother, said she ordered her son a kid’s meal on Friday afternoon and asked for apple juice. She said her son started acting strangely after drinking from his sippy cup. When she tasted the drink, it turns out it was margarita mix, MyFoxDetroit.com reports.
Michigan police say the drink was mislabeled as apple juice. Applebee’s will retrain its employees to emphasize the use of separate containers for alcoholic and nonalcoholic drinks, the Detroit Free Press reports.
The boy was taken to the hospital, where he was examined by doctors. The family later learned the boy’s alcohol level was 0.10 percent – over the legal limit for an adult driver. He has since been released from the hospital.
"Nobody at the table ordered alcoholic drinks," Dill-Reese told MyFoxDetroit.com. "So he definitely shouldn't have received one."
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Re: Applebee's Changes Policy After Toddler Accidentally Served Alcohol [Re: 5-HT2A]
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Re: Toddler Rushed to Hospital After Reportedly Being Served Alcohol at Applebee's [Re: 5-HT2A]
#14286596 - 04/13/11 08:53 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I used to work at Applebee's (and every other chain restaurant you can name, for that matter).
To be honest, I can't remember how we got kids drinks there. At most places, all the juices are kept behind the bar. It's just easier to keep track of things when you're doing inventory/ordering.
Now, most restaurants/bars use these opaque, white plastic pour bottles for every non-carbonated mixer. Really, you can only tell half the shit inside by smelling it. Generally in these bottles, you'll have OJ, pineapple juice, margarita mix, simple syrup, apple juice, grapefruit juice. Lots of liquids around the same color density in white bottles. There's A LOT of room for error if you don't check these....
However, there's NEVER booze in these mixer bottles. In 15 years I've never seen it happen anywhere.
Generally, a server will ring in all the drinks, the bartender gets the ticket, pours the drinks, the server puts the cap on and brings it to the table. There's a few steps here where things can change. If, say, the drink order only required one kid juice from the bar and the bartender weren't that busy, the bartender would cap it themselves.
But, if it's slammed and the bartender is busy making mixed drinks, they might just hand the white bottle they THINK is the apple juice and then the server pours it, doesn't check because they're not used to doing it, caps it and runs off.
But still, that wouldn't explain how the kid got drunk off of it because, like I said, I've *never* seen anyone put alcohol in those white bottles. It just doesn't make sense to do so.
All that said, I used to drink at work A LOT. Putting cocktails in kids cups happens at every restaurant, I don't care who runs it or who works there. However, you'd have to be a fucking idiot to leave it where someone's going to grab it thinking it's something else, or even what it actually is.
Personally, just out of my experience in the biz, I see the parents just tryin' to scam some cash out. They probably heard about it happening before to Applebee's (which also didn't make sense), and figured they could make it work for them. You'd be blown away by how often people try to get things for free, NON-STOP. This economy, it's only gotten worse.
You may have seen a lot of restaurants around you closing in the past couple years. Economy sucks, people can't go out to eat as much, when they do, they want as much as the can get without paying, they bitch, get more, restaurant loses out, closes down.
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Re: Toddler Rushed to Hospital After Reportedly Being Served Alcohol at Applebee's [Re: Rev Drucifer]
#14286667 - 04/13/11 09:03 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Just to add something else-
I was talking about this with my girlfriend and realized another very possible way the kid could have gotten the drink.
There are LOTS of times a bartender might make too much of something and pour it into a glass/cup sitting around. It's not un-believable to think that someone threw a cap on some extra margarita sitting at the service bar and served it.
Or, I mentioned above that I used to put drinks in kids cups all the time. I generally got them from the bartenders, who would hook them up for me knowing it was going to me. Definitely possible the bartender made a drink for a server and someone grabbed the wrong one.
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