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Heavy deja vu
    #14269234 - 04/10/11 09:03 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

And it doesn't feel in a good way.  How do you explain these experiences?


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Re: Heavy deja vu [Re: timelapses]
    #14269368 - 04/10/11 09:24 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Just confusion man. Listen to some music and chillrax :smile:

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Re: Heavy deja vu [Re: timelapses]
    #14269405 - 04/10/11 09:29 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I'm not sure how to explain those experiences.
I just know they happen some of the time. Do you have any ideas?


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Re: Heavy deja vu [Re: timelapses]
    #14269489 - 04/10/11 09:42 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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timelapses said:
And it doesn't feel in a good way.  How do you explain these experiences?



I don't explain them, I just enjoy.  For All I know it may have just been something, (or something simularlar to something) I dreamt and forgot.


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Re: Heavy deja vu [Re: MeowMix96]
    #14269535 - 04/10/11 09:49 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

God, I could write a hundred pages of my theories.  I think tonight it had to do with a person (not on the shroomery) that we have had a lot of interaction in a vibe sense and shaped our futures to an extent by the shared influence.

Mysteries of the human experience but I know I would understand it better if I was under psychedelics.  Why I'm open to others experiences of of something I can't get, maybe just a gist of it.


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Re: Heavy deja vu [Re: timelapses]
    #14269914 - 04/10/11 11:04 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

theres so many theories, like you said.

most people think that its false memories triggered by something familiar then your brain making associations.

but i agree with dr. hans holzer, who said that it could be momories associated with reincarnation, or that they are moments which we had seen in precognitive flashes that we did not remember at the time.





edit: bad wordin


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Re: Heavy deja vu [Re: wondercat]
    #14270105 - 04/10/11 11:46 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I am starting to think when you get Deja vu it seems like you have been there before because you have, in dream state , you dream it before and as we know dreams can be as real as reality, so dreaming the future and embarking upon that moment in the now but dreamed of it before it seems familiar, but in terms of what you moments you Deja vu and if their is any significance , i am not sure

anyhow my 2c no facts here


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Re: Heavy deja vu [Re: Withinity]
    #14270162 - 04/11/11 12:03 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I remember hearing on a documentary that our brains can perceive the future like we perceive the past. I just think its some crazy mystical sub-conscious thing that happens when you dream, and then when you live it and become aware that you've seen it before it makes you feel weird.

I used to get deja vu daily there for a little while. I'm going through a few changes and have been doing lots of deep sleeping but little dream remembering though, so its only about a couple times a week now.


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Re: Heavy deja vu [Re: Joolz]
    #14270202 - 04/11/11 12:11 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Like everyone here is saying, many possibilities. What I have heard that resonates is something foreseen before the incarnation. Many medicine people have believed for millenia that we come to this world with a knowledgeable self. Meaning, a part of us has already seen every path and every outcome of every choice.

Deja Vu's are of that self, having seen something but usually it is a fairly strong event. Meaning, it will change certain things. The moment that lead up to it, the moments that renew after it, all will be shifted slightly due to it. If it was bad, I would meditate on it or something. Maybe dream or pray honestly because I have had that as well and it was either due to a me running in a circle or just an unhealthy choice.

For example, I have stopped smoking ganja. I had initially started to get high and numb, then medicinally, then fused them both and lost the sacredness so I just stopped until I can again appreciate it's beauty. However, one week I was in a dark state and smoked to get high again. This went on for about a week and I realized that things happened during that caused me some damage. Details are not important but basically, I lost a piece of myself and set back my life a few weeks (the time it would take to regain it) and by that, it stopped everything I would cross paths with and started new ones. Like stopping at a stop light for an hour instead of a minute and ending up behind and in front of a set of new cars.

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Re: Heavy deja vu [Re: OneU]
    #14270257 - 04/11/11 12:23 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Also, here is a diagram that I think might help:



This is one cause of Deja Vu. The circles are habitual cycles. The center is, like it says, your true center, when you are aware of the self. The space between the circles is my poor skills at drawing proportional circles so don't mind that :wink:

We all fall into these cycles. We go around and then end up in the middle. We feel we haven't done anything but time has passed or we feel like a deja vu when we start them up again. When one is freed from unnecessary habits (necessary is like healing ones such as meditation which aides in expansion of awareness, yoga which is very healing for all aspects, eating healthy, reading for expansion of knowledge, exercise, etc.) they are centered and can transcend these habits. Nail biting, smoking from addiction, drinking without need to, binge eating, eating unhealthy foods, whatever your inner self does not appreciate.

Hope this helps! Love and no worries! You always have all the time in the world! The moment is eternal <3

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Re: Heavy deja vu [Re: OneU]
    #14280639 - 04/12/11 09:28 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Deja vu is one of the strangest experiences in my opinion.  I experience it often.  Lately it has been more "synchronicities" than what I would call deja vu.  It seems to be happening nearly everyday lately.  Whether there is meaning behind it or not, I do not speculate.  At least publicly.  However you look at it, the happenings are strange.  The feelings I get when they happen are more strange...

I like them though.


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- "Drugs and Drug Policy: The Control of Consciousness Alteration, 2007.

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Re: Heavy deja vu [Re: timelapses]
    #14280782 - 04/12/11 09:49 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I have no idea what the cause could be. Modern psychology says that it's short term memories moving to long term, which seems pretty hand-wavy if you ask me.

I've been noticing that when I get deja-vu lately, after it's over I have a hard time remembering what the significant parts were, or what triggered it. Does anyone else experience this? It's not dissimilar to the comedown of a trip, come to think of it.

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Re: Heavy deja vu [Re: fazdazzle]
    #14280831 - 04/12/11 09:58 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I can usually recall afterward what it was about the scenario that sparked the deja vu, if that's what you mean.


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There are more people imprisoned for the commission of drug offenses in the United States - close to 500,000 - than are incarcerated in England, France, Germany, and Japan for all crimes combined.  Examined in another way, the United States has 100,000 more people incarcerated for nonviolent drug offenses than all the countries of the European Union combined, despite the fact that the European Union has 100 million more citizens. :crankey: 

- "Drugs and Drug Policy: The Control of Consciousness Alteration, 2007.

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Re: Heavy deja vu [Re: fazdazzle]
    #14289898 - 04/14/11 12:45 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Deja-vu is just a glitch in the matrix. Duh.

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I've been noticing that when I get deja-vu lately, after it's over I have a hard time remembering what the significant parts were, or what triggered it.




I know exactly what you mean.  While it's happening there's not a doubt in my mind that I've lived this exact moment before at some point in time but the moment it's over I start to doubt the familiarity of the whole situation.  Extremely strange indeed but I love it.

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Re: Heavy deja vu [Re: Complexicated]
    #14296798 - 04/15/11 05:30 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Do you ever feel that at times it can have to do with relationships over time?  Just seeing this person from a long time ago (without going into details) triggered this last deja vu experience, but it's been different at other times and I don't get them a lot.

Processing it, it goes deep but in two people experiencing life and the ripples it has on that relationship and others through time and that particular relationship was what I got from it.


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Re: Heavy deja vu [Re: timelapses]
    #14297170 - 04/15/11 06:23 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Any sudden memories that haven't been accessed in the long-term but carry substantial meaning to an individual seem to spurn claims of 'deja-vu' sensation. Seems logically consistent with smell recollection, which specifically seems to create association memories that are overlooked as 'deeper' and intangible even though it's often simply recollection of the self based on a scent.

Maybe...



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Re: Heavy deja vu [Re: numonkei]
    #14297223 - 04/15/11 06:30 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

On a scent?  We are on two completeley different pages on this one.  If I went into depth about what I think it was it about it wasn't petty or small, but meaningful and nothing to do with a romantic relationship but something on a much deeper and larger scale on how it effects others.
No disrespect, i just don't get the reply.


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Re: Heavy deja vu [Re: timelapses]
    #14297248 - 04/15/11 06:35 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I think 'deja-vu' to most is memory retention being activated in vastly contrasting situations and usually with significant time difference.

I'm curious as to what you mean by 'heavy deja-vu'. Just a 'sensation', or something particular that can be put into words. Seems that term is often used under a heavy umbrella of sensorium and is a really subjective term in general.

This is a good place to reply with little sense, I don't really get what I typed either. Just stream of consciousness typing. :shrug:




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Re: Heavy deja vu [Re: numonkei]
    #14297379 - 04/15/11 06:55 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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numonkei said:
I think 'deja-vu' to most is memory retention being activated in vastly contrasting situations and usually with significant time difference.

I'm curious as to what you mean by 'heavy deja-vu'. Just a 'sensation', or something particular that can be put into words. Seems that term is often used under a heavy umbrella of sensorium and is a really subjective term in general.

This is a good place to reply with little sense, I don't really get what I typed either. Just stream of consciousness typing. :shrug:




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Ok, if you take that attitude towards it then here it goes.:smile:  The ability of music and media to influence so many people, then the ability of people connecting on a deep energetical/spirtual level/releam compared to the "small" but extreemly important love/intimate connections compared to the larger masses of thought and consciousness is what I'm trying to express.

My one relationship taken in the context of one human being interacting with another in it's literall sense, brought a sudden rush of this, but with it an understanding to what I can but I don't see the WHOLE PICTURE.  And that bothers me.  But at the same time I don't think we are supposed to.  Societal conditoning, the uncouncious, and how far you want to go.

In my own experience I sensed it would be better not to take it to far, which doesn't mean I'm afraid just that I think we all have a filter/veil that we are born with, the forgetfulness of life before death and what we learn and progress from that is more important than finding the OZ metaphor of what is behind the curtain, unless it has to do with government and control.

It seems so vast, but I know I can reach a certain understanding.  Like a book I read when a person comes to a large undrstanding they completely lose interest, that life is meaningless in the larger scheme of things in eternity but still meaningful.  Sorry to be so long winded, this is what I'm pondering now.


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Re: Heavy deja vu [Re: timelapses]
    #14299231 - 04/16/11 01:30 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

People who do a lot of dissociative drugs, such as DMX also report unfriendly, heavy amounts of deja vu. I can't remember correctly, but DMX fucks up some neural pathways and heavy deja vu is the result. A friend of mine who had a gnarly salvia trip also had heavy deja vu for several weeks. You should look up DMX abuse and find out exactly what causes it... maybe you have a similar fallacy?


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