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Finally I Have Done It!!!!! I Have Proved The Existence Of A Supermassive Black Hole
#14266985 - 04/10/11 01:01 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ok so I snapped a pic of the center of the Virgo Cluster

Which is in the center of the Virgo (latin for virgin) Constellation

Which is in the center of Messier 84

So I decided to take the picture in the visible light spectrum opposed to infrared, ultraviolet, or gamma wavelength of the electromagnetic spectrum of radiation.
and this is the picture I got
 You can see that the blue portion corresponds to the matter coming towards us and the red portions clearly corresponds to the matter rotating around the black hole moving away from us in the accresion disk which is just matter orbiting closer and closer to the Messier 84 supermassive black hole center.
According to my spectrograph analysis the rotation of the gas 26 light years from the central object is 880,000 miles per hour.
That would lead me to conclude that the object is 300 million times more massive than our sun.
If the object in the middle of Messier 84 is 300 million times more massive than our sun (which has a 3km event horizon radius) than it must have a "Schwarzschild radius" or "event horizon" radius of .0001 lightyears from the center. Meaning nothing can escape from the center of Messier 84 if its within a 300 million kilometer radius.
300 million solar masses is far greater than the 8 solar mass needed in order to exceed the "Chandrasekhar Limit" so that atoms in the sun will pile up so close together creating a proton rich environment such that a proton merges with a electron changing the proton+electron into a neutron.
Pauli's Exclusion Principle states that no two fermions such as neutrons can occupy one position simultaneously. Since the distance between each neutron is so small because of the immense gravity caused by the mass, each neutron must occupy its own energy state. The number of available energy states quickly decrease as they are occupied.
All of the neutrons changing energy states creates neutron degeneracy pressure which causes the massive object to implode into a singularity where all 300 million solar masses of matter occupies one dimension instead of three.
In order to detect those neutrinos (which are flowing through us trillions of times per second) I am going to buy a mixture of toluene, xylene, benzene, phenylcyclohexane, triethylbenzene, and decalin.
These neutrinos are going to come down bombarding earth and I want to bury my scintillator deep undergroud so there is no interference because of earth hardware.
I am going to put these chemicals ingredients deep underground in a clean room such that when a neutrino hits my liquid solution it will emit a photon because its a scintillator.

Then my light sensor will detect that photon that was caused from the reaction of the million year old neutrino that traveled across to universe only to land in my scintillator concoction so I can ponder about its existence, history, and origin.
Then my light sensor or more specifically my photonmultiplier will absorb that photon and it will go into my potassium, sodium, and caesium metals in my vacuum tube photonmultiplier.
Subsequently releasing an electron due to the photoelectric effect. Then my photonmultiplier will go to work multiplying the photo-electrons resulting in an electrical pulse which I can then finally analyze in order to reach conclusions about what exactly my scintillator detected.
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Re: Finally I Have Done It!!!!!!! I Have Proved The Existence Of A Supermassive Black Hole [Re: Coaster]
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Re: Finally I Have Done It!!!!!!! I Have Proved The Existence Of A Supermassive Black Hole [Re: Coaster]
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Re: Finally I Have Done It!!!!!!! I Have Proved The Existence Of A Supermassive Black Hole [Re: ROFL_my_ WAFFLE]
#14267000 - 04/10/11 01:05 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I wrote it myself so I suggest you read the whole article I am a professional journalist after all I deserve a few minutes of your concentration.
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Re: Finally I Have Done It!!!!!!! I Have Proved The Existence Of A Supermassive Black Hole [Re: Coaster]
#14267007 - 04/10/11 01:07 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Comon I took time to write it for your intellectual benefit, took me a lot of time to research it.
      
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Re: Finally I Have Done It!!!!!!! I Have Proved The Existence Of A Supermassive Black Hole [Re: Coaster]
#14267017 - 04/10/11 01:09 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'll explain anything in more detail if you inquire.
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Re: Finally I Have Done It!!!!!!! I Have Proved The Existence Of A Supermassive Black Hole [Re: Coaster]
#14267043 - 04/10/11 01:13 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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so what is the significance of this?
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Re: Finally I Have Done It!!!!!!! I Have Proved The Existence Of A Supermassive Black Hole [Re: Greenvalley]
#14267073 - 04/10/11 01:18 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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That its true that matter eventually just collapses into itself creating an eternal darkness where all matter loses its identity and combines into a singularity.
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Re: Finally I Have Done It!!!!!!! I Have Proved The Existence Of A Supermassive Black Hole [Re: Coaster] 1
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Re: Finally I Have Done It!!!!!!! I Have Proved The Existence Of A Supermassive Black Hole [Re: Coaster]
#14267086 - 04/10/11 01:22 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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but then what? does that mean that in the end everything will become 'nothing'?
I like to belive that the universe runs in cycles, expantion-contraction. Like when the Hindus talk about the inbreath and exhalation of Brama.
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Re: Finally I Have Done It!!!!!!! I Have Proved The Existence Of A Supermassive Black Hole [Re: Mad_Larkin]
#14267092 - 04/10/11 01:23 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Where do you get a vacuum tube photonmultiplier, I might like to have one of these lying around.
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Re: Finally I Have Done It!!!!!!! I Have Proved The Existence Of A Supermassive Black Hole [Re: Coaster]
#14267094 - 04/10/11 01:23 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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That's pretty damn interesting Coaster. You really dig something amazing there.  I suggest you post it on the ery too, cause Harry loves discussing physics as well. I love physics and I love the way you think man. I just woke up so I will have to respond mroe later. Peace! Good job!
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Re: Finally I Have Done It!!!!!!! I Have Proved The Existence Of A Supermassive Black Hole [Re: Greenvalley]
#14267143 - 04/10/11 01:35 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Greenvalley said: but then what? does that mean that in the end everything will become 'nothing'?
I like to belive that the universe runs in cycles, expantion-contraction. Like when the Hindus talk about the inbreath and exhalation of Brama.
then you believe in the theory that the universe follows the application of the big bang leading to big crunch recursively
all matter expanding and contracting just like all living things
perhaps the universe is a living thing too
aren't we all just a sum of brain cell consciousnesses
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Re: Finally I Have Done It!!!!!!! I Have Proved The Existence Of A Supermassive Black Hole [Re: 28064212]
#14267149 - 04/10/11 01:37 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
28064212 said: That's pretty damn interesting Coaster. You really dig something amazing there.  I suggest you post it on the ery too, cause Harry loves discussing physics as well. I love physics and I love the way you think man. I just woke up so I will have to respond mroe later. Peace! Good job!

tell that panzy to get his gluteus maximus muscle
his gluteus medius muscle
ANd gluteus minimus muscle OVER HEREEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Re: Finally I Have Done It!!!!!!! I Have Proved The Existence Of A Supermassive Black Hole [Re: Coaster]
#14267156 - 04/10/11 01:39 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Coaster said:
all matter expanding and contracting just like all living things
perhaps the universe is a living thing too 
Brilliant. This is they way I see it. Collections of organisms make a bigger organism.
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Re: Finally I Have Done It!!!!!!! I Have Proved The Existence Of A Supermassive Black Hole [Re: 4HO-DMT]
#14267178 - 04/10/11 01:44 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I love physics. I love quantum physics. I love all the mind blowing shit.
One thing I realized a while ago is that everything is fractal. Each human being is made of atoms which have universes inside of them. Each universe is like a human being with a working parts and moving things.
Check this out Coaster, it is filled with a bunch of the theories I love, but I'm too lazy to post em. http://ask.metafilter.com/93179/What-are-some-mindblowing-scientific-concepts
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Re: UPDATED: Finally I Have Done It! I Have Proved The Existence Of A Supermassive Black Hole [Re: Coaster]
#14267181 - 04/10/11 01:44 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Mr 
I just dont understand the part that connects your black hole with the scintillation concoction. Please elaborate.
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Re: UPDATED: Finally I Have Done It! I Have Proved The Existence Of A Supermassive Black Hole [Re: mellowparty]
#14267188 - 04/10/11 01:46 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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So black holes build up so much matter till they just explode again creating another universe?
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Re: Finally I Have Done It!!!!!!! I Have Proved The Existence Of A Supermassive Black Hole [Re: Coaster]
#14267192 - 04/10/11 01:47 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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black holes are cool.
So are white holes if they exist. Some think that the big bang was actually caused by our universe exploding out of a white hole.
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Re: UPDATED: Finally I Have Done It! I Have Proved The Existence Of A Supermassive Black Hole [Re: Coaster]
#14267215 - 04/10/11 01:54 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
Coaster said: Ok so I snapped a pic of the center of the Virgo Cluster

Which is in the center of the Virgo (latin for virgin) Constellation

Which is in the center of Messier 84

So I decided to take the picture in the visible light spectrum opposed to infrared, ultraviolet, or gamma wavelength of the electromagnetic spectrum of radiation.
and this is the picture I got

According to my spectrograph analysis the rotation of the gas 26 light years from the central object is 880,000 miles per hour.
That would lead me to conclude that the object is 300 million times more massive than our sun which is far greater than the 8 solar mass needed in order to exceed the Chandrasekhar limit so that atoms in the sun will pile up so close together creating a proton rich environment that a proton merges with a electron to changing the proton+electron into a neutron and emitting a neutrino known as electron capture.
In order to detect those neutrinos (which are flowing through us trillions of times per second) I am going to buy a mixture of toluene, xylene, benzene, phenylcyclohexane, triethylbenzene, and decalin.
I am going to put these chemicals ingredients deep underground in a clean room such that when a neutrino hits my liquid solution it will emit a photon because its a scintillator.
Then my light sensor will detect that photon that was caused from the reaction of the million year old neutrino that traveled across to universe only to land in my scintillator concoction so I can ponder about its existence, history, and origin.
Then my light sensor or more specifically my photonmultiplier will absorb that photon and it will go into my potassium, sodium, and caesium metals in my vacuum tube photonmultiplier.
Subsequently releasing an electron due to the photoelectric effect. Then my photonmultiplier will go to work multiplying the photo-electrons resulting in an electrical pulse which I can then finally analyze in order to reach conclusions about what exactly my scintillator detected.
but you said so yourself, it takes a million years for that light to travel from there to here, by the time that shit gets over here, that could have ended awhile ago(but we are assuming that IF black holes exist, THAT they last billions of years)
what would be funny, is if a proton in an atom, was made up of trillions of galaxies, in our time, a galaxy takes trillions of years to disintegrate, but an atom disappears and reappears millions of times per second. so that would mean that if our billions of galaxies make up one proton in someone elses world, then what is trillion of years to us, in their time frame, would be one trillionth of a trillionth of a trillionth of a trillionth of a trillionth of a trillionth of second or something like that.
pretty amazing huh? CRAZY
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