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iSHACKA
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WTF is going on with my LC *new pics*
#14266387 - 04/10/11 10:37 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Good day everyone,
I need some advice on my LC tek. I have attempted the very simple LC tek.
Boil my jars and water for 50 min. Remove jars, fill 2/3 with water, half tbl spoon oh honey. PC for 90 minute. Cool over night before inoculation. Breathable tape over the holes, and a coffee fileter attached by a rubber band over top.
sits at 65f, I leave it alone for about 5-6 days, then every other day ill give it a nice swirl here and there.
here is the thing. After 10-15 days all I will have is sediment at the bottom of my jar. It always appears as if the sediment has increased since day one. But does not resemble the MYC i see in photo's. It never floats on its own. Water isnt super clear. And its all tiny little particles.
Nothing like cum floating in water. Please help me guys. Am i throwing out good LC? or is my tek flawed? I have had nothing work so far.
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Edited by iSHACKA (04/10/11 02:22 PM)
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hamloaf
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Re: WTF is going on with my LC [Re: iSHACKA]
#14266424 - 04/10/11 10:43 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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No need to boil the water for 50 minutes. Just bring water to a boil then ass your honey, load jars, sterilize.
LC's only require 15-20 minutes at 15 psi's to become properly sterilized. When you PC honey for 90 minutes, it caramelizes.With LC's you want to pressure Sterilize your liquid medium for 20 minutes at 15psi to properly sterilize the medium.
You may want to check the GE filter material. Use poly-fil, tyvek, or synthetic filter disks for GE filter material over breathable tape and coffee filters.
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iSHACKA
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Re: WTF is going on with my LC [Re: hamloaf]
#14266614 - 04/10/11 11:25 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I do have polyfill, i was afraid to use it because I imagined when i stir the LC it could become wet and nasty.
My honey does not appear to be camalizing either, and I would imagine i would have had some success by now as it does work according to the tek.
wtf
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Re: WTF is going on with my LC [Re: iSHACKA]
#14266774 - 04/10/11 12:03 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hamloaf could you clarify "ass your honey" Wouldn't that contaminate the honey?

I have only used Karo, I like it because the clear solution makes it easy to spot for any contams.
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iSHACKA
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Re: WTF is going on with my LC [Re: Mycowlogist]
#14267165 - 04/10/11 01:41 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ok, can someone suggest a new tek or something? Im really at a loss, and im running out of resources
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Re: WTF is going on with my LC [Re: iSHACKA]
#14267199 - 04/10/11 01:49 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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ELME & DEXTROSE IS THE SHIT!!!!
ass the honey
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iSHACKA
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So you guys think honey is a poor choice? and that is why im having poor results?
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Re: WTF is going on with my LC [Re: iSHACKA]
#14267285 - 04/10/11 02:09 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I think you are PC'ing for too long and your sugars are carmelizing. Additionally apparently honey naturally contains some anti fungal properties, so while it will work there are better options. See This LC Comparison thread. Current information says that LME/Dex combination works the best. Though if all you are limited to is grocery store items, I would go with SITR or Karo. Just boil your water, dissolve your sugar, and PC for about 15-20 mins. 90 mins is way too long.
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iSHACKA
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does anything here look like anything is happening. i know the photos are not the best its diffcult to get a clear shot. 
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Re: WTF is going on with my LC [Re: iSHACKA]
#14267343 - 04/10/11 02:23 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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LC is always gonna be hard to tell. Shoot up some PF Tek style test jars. BRF and Verm is pretty cheap. Keep the LCs in the fridge till you know.
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Mr. Anderson
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You should be fine using honey, your just Pc'ing it to long.
Just do exactly what Ham said, Hams the man
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Re: WTF is going on with my LC [Re: Mycowlogist]
#14269075 - 04/10/11 08:38 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
Mycowlogist said: Hamloaf could you clarify "ass your honey" Wouldn't that contaminate the honey?

I have only used Karo, I like it because the clear solution makes it easy to spot for any contams.

*add, the honey. 
OP, check my sig and click on the GOOD LC TEK. There, there'll be a comprehensive and easy to follow guide of how to make a light malt/dextrose LC and where to source the items needed.
It's best to presume LC's are contaminated until test substrates or mediums are inoculated and have had five days to come back contam free. Personally, I'd just skip all the headache of LC, learn agar, and expand your culture through a process called grain to grain transfer. Happy Shrooming!
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Re: WTF is going on with my LC [Re: hamloaf]
#14269104 - 04/10/11 08:42 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Looks contaminated for sure. Don't waste your time or money shooting anything up with that crap. Just throw it out and start over.
To save you some headaches I'll give you some advice... 1. Don't use honey...Its the worst. I've had more contams from using honey then anything else. 2. Buy clear corn syrup (Karos) if it has vanilla flavoring don't worry buy it (you really can't find the normal version anywhere these days).
3. Liquid cultures that are sugar/honey based need to be PCed for 15 mins at 15 PSI.
4. Always Make more then one jar. LC's contaminate really easily. Expect at least 1-2 failures for every jar that is a success. I usually do 3-4 jars at a time and only 1 or 2 come out fine.
5. Always use just a few tiny squirts of Spores. You really only need a half or less of a CC per jar.
6. If you can afford it buy a stirring machine.
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Edited by ronjohn7779 (04/10/11 08:48 PM)
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Re: WTF is going on with my LC [Re: ronjohn7779]
#14269889 - 04/10/11 10:59 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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All mine come out good, I do the ELME/DEXTROSE that ham's suggesting.
I do 500 ml jars with no tilt lids, test it on a couple quarts of grain first and wait about a week.
If its good you should be golden. I haven't had 1 contam so you might wanna go back to the drawing board with your method.
Also you should invest in a magnetic stirrer and stir bars.
Just follow the tek broham
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