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Why Do All Leaders Of NATO Always React The Same Way To Certain Nations?
    #14266027 - 04/10/11 09:01 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

For Instance Bush:Obama Tony Blair:David Cameron
Obama won the nobel peace prize, why is he acting like Bush or even Mccain?


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Re: Why Do All Leaders Of NATO Always React The Same Way To Certain Nations? [Re: Coaster]
    #14266077 - 04/10/11 09:13 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

My best guess is what my daddy always tell me. Freemasons have a gun to his family.

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Re: Why Do All Leaders Of NATO Always React The Same Way To Certain Nations? [Re: limestoneman]
    #14266119 - 04/10/11 09:26 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

whatttttt:confused:


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Re: Why Do All Leaders Of NATO Always React The Same Way To Certain Nations? [Re: Coaster]
    #14266269 - 04/10/11 10:09 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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For Instance Bush:Obama Tony Blair:David Cameron
Obama won the nobel peace prize, why is he acting like Bush or even Mccain?



Actually here he is acting like Sarcozy and doing his bidding.  Not leading, not defining, community organizing, generally failing to produce any results at all.  He isn't anything like those men and everybody on the planet thinks his peace prize is a joke, including him.


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Re: Why Do All Leaders Of NATO Always React The Same Way To Certain Nations? [Re: Coaster]
    #14266323 - 04/10/11 10:23 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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For Instance Bush:Obama Tony Blair:David Cameron
Obama won the nobel peace prize, why is he acting like Bush or even Mccain?




What are you talking about?

Honestly man, read your question.  I realize you know what you are referring to, but you've made no effort to communicate that understanding to anyone else.  Asking a question premised upon some evaluation which hasn't been shared is pointless: even if somebody answers, there's no reason to suspect they answered the question you intended to ask.


What, percisely, is the understanding you have which you've premised this question, and the claimed similarity in behavior, on?

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Re: Why Do All Leaders Of NATO Always React The Same Way To Certain Nations? [Re: johnm214]
    #14266480 - 04/10/11 10:55 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

My question is that I wondering why Obama just like Bush campaigned on not being a war president and they are not into nation building and then Bush wound up making a doctrine of preemptive war and opened Guantanamo Bay which incited terrorism and then Obama campaigned to close that Cuban torture facility and then didn't even though he supposedly signed an order for it. Then Obama continues the Afghanistan war nation building mission Bush started and then sends in tons of drones to Pakistan and then bombs Libya without congressional approval. He sidestepped the congress and went to the UN successfully, just like Bush??


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Re: Why Do All Leaders Of NATO Always React The Same Way To Certain Nations? [Re: Coaster]
    #14266511 - 04/10/11 11:04 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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My question is that I wondering why Obama just like Bush campaigned on not being a war president and they are not into nation building and then Bush wound up making a doctrine of preemptive war and opened Guantanamo Bay which incited terrorism and then Obama campaigned to close that Cuban torture facility and then didn't even though he supposedly signed an order for it. Then Obama continues the Afghanistan war nation building mission Bush started and then sends in tons of drones to Pakistan and then bombs Libya without congressional approval. He sidestepped the congress and went to the UN successfully, just like Bush??



Neither Iraq nor Afghanistan was pre-emptive nor was either of them undertaken without Congressional approval.  I am not aware of UN involvement in the NATO decision to bomb elements of Libya's armed forces.  Bush didn't start the Afghan War, the Taliban and al-Qaeda did.  Bush didn't start the Iraq War, Saddam did.  Obama didn't start the Libyan adventure, Bernard Henri-Levy and Sarcozy did.

Bush campaigned against international entanglements BEFORE 9/11.  Obama did AFTER 9/11.  Nothing monumental has happened since his election that should have caused him to rethink that policy.  So why did he change?  because he is a feckless phony fuck who duped every one of the jackasses who voted for him.  Thanks a lot, schmucks.


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Re: Why Do All Leaders Of NATO Always React The Same Way To Certain Nations? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14266517 - 04/10/11 11:05 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

so how would have mccain been a better option then Zappa?


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Re: Why Do All Leaders Of NATO Always React The Same Way To Certain Nations? [Re: Coaster]
    #14266522 - 04/10/11 11:06 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Why Do All Leaders Of NATO Always React The Same Way To Certain Nations? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14266550 - 04/10/11 11:10 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

> because he [Obama] is a feckless phony fuck who duped every one of the jackasses who voted for him.

Yep.


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Re: Why Do All Leaders Of NATO Always React The Same Way To Certain Nations? [Re: Coaster]
    #14266554 - 04/10/11 11:12 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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so how would have mccain been a better option then Zappa?



How could he be worse?  For starters I don't think he would have been retarded enough to throw a trillion dollars of porkulus debt into the toilet and I don't think we would have had this hideous Health Deform monster.


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Re: Why Do All Leaders Of NATO Always React The Same Way To Certain Nations? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14266575 - 04/10/11 11:17 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Ya well mccain wouldnt have spent $243.4 billion in tax cuts
and $154.5 billion in contracts, grants, and loans just like Obama did in that stimulus you speak of.


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Re: Why Do All Leaders Of NATO Always React The Same Way To Certain Nations? [Re: Coaster]
    #14266578 - 04/10/11 11:18 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Oh and Obamacare is only bad because the republicans made him take out the public options which would have reduced costs because of extra competitiveness in the healthcare industry.


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Re: Why Do All Leaders Of NATO Always React The Same Way To Certain Nations? [Re: Coaster]
    #14266691 - 04/10/11 11:45 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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Oh and Obamacare is only bad because the republicans made him take out the public options which would have reduced costs because of extra competitiveness in the healthcare industry.



:rofl2:

You live in a fantasy world.  And no, that isn't the only bad thing abut Care Obamacare.  But to socialists wishing to live off the government tit anything short of full government supply of everything they want is a flaw.


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Re: Why Do All Leaders Of NATO Always React The Same Way To Certain Nations? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14266711 - 04/10/11 11:48 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I think Canada's system is cheaper as only slightly less effective than ours. Well anyways Ron Paul is going to beat Obama in 2012.


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Re: Why Do All Leaders Of NATO Always React The Same Way To Certain Nations? [Re: Coaster]
    #14266754 - 04/10/11 11:57 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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I think Canada's system is cheaper as only slightly less effective than ours. Well anyways Ron Paul is going to beat Obama in 2012.



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Re: Why Do All Leaders Of NATO Always React The Same Way To Certain Nations? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14267429 - 04/10/11 02:43 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Because the truth is; behind the scenes they all get together and plot how to take over the world.

No kidding, they all are loyal to the idea of a western lead global government and so all of these globalists take their order from NATO, UN and other manifestations of global governance and finance.

In short they are guilty of treason.


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Re: Why Do All Leaders Of NATO Always React The Same Way To Certain Nations? [Re: Seuss]
    #14267541 - 04/10/11 03:10 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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> because he [Obama] is a feckless phony fuck who duped every one of the jackasses who voted for him.

Yep.



What else is new? We've had maybe three good presidents in the past 60 years.

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Re: Why Do All Leaders Of NATO Always React The Same Way To Certain Nations? [Re: limestoneman]
    #14267782 - 04/10/11 04:14 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

> What else is new? We've had maybe three good presidents in the past 60 years.

Perhaps... I've not been alive long enough to judge that many of them, but we have had some really awful ones during my lifetime.


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Re: Why Do All Leaders Of NATO Always React The Same Way To Certain Nations? [Re: Coaster]
    #14268248 - 04/10/11 06:02 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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I think Canada's system is cheaper as only slightly less effective than ours.




Great comparison: a country with a single payer for covered treatments, insufficient resources to satisfy the demand, and no alternative to that single payer in private commerce spends less than a country where consumers are free to pay for whatever they want, without "big brother's" permission? 

No kidding!  You know, I bet the Soviet Union spent less money on electric guitars too.  Surely this difference is because they had a more efficient electric guitar research and development, distribution, system, not simply because if you tried to sell an electric guitar in the soviet states you'd be arrested and beaten?

Your comparing dispartate systems and suggesting that the difference in price comes with comparable treatment, which is ridiculous given the active prohibition on any private competition for the one size fits all canadian option.  Even if you're on a waiting list and will die without being treated, the hospital that offers to treat you outside the bureaucracy will be subject to closure and the doctors subject to arrest.  Gee, you think that keeps costs down when your prohibited by law from spending your money (and recieving treatment)? 

I bet if we just outright killed anyone who was sick, like the Khmer Rouge regime did, we'd save even more!  Wow, the efficiency of communist healthcare : )

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