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Re: [CO] Cops defend use of pepper spray on 8-year-old during tantrum [Re: bbl337]
    #14265177 - 04/10/11 12:45 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I want to know how big a "dose" of pepper spray is.


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Re: [CO] Cops defend use of pepper spray on 8-year-old during tantrum [Re: bbl337] * 2
    #14265191 - 04/10/11 12:50 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

This is bullshit.

Cops must have used the same logic that they use when shooting a dog that's barking at them.  God forbid a grown man who has taken a risky job get a scratch from an 8 year old. 

Honestly the cops should never have been called in the first place.  What kind of pushover teachers do they have working at the school for kids with behavioral problems.  Teachers at a school like that should be able to handle kids with friggin sticks without getting LE involved... 

No wonder the kid acts like this with his mom, teachers, and counselors telling him "This is just who he is". This kid is going to be lucky if they don't drug him into a permanent stupor by 9.  All because the adults in his life don't have the patience or balls to deal with him.


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Re: [CO] Cops defend use of pepper spray on 8-year-old during tantrum [Re: bbl337]
    #14265192 - 04/10/11 12:50 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Apart from everyone leaving him alone in the room, and waiting for him to calm down, I don't see what else to do.  And he might have trashed the whole room before he calmed down, or seriously hurt himself.

Cops don't get paid enough to get stabbed with sharp sticks by kids.  They have to assume they've been called because all the non-cop methods have been tried and failed.  They're not child psychologists.  I'm not a big fan of cops, but you can't really judge these weird situations unless you were there, IMHO.

If they had grabbed him, and a scuffle ensued, and the kid got hurt, there would be people saying "why didn't they just use pepper spray?  They didn't have to beat him up!".  Pepper spray is perfect because they never layed a hand on him, and the situation was ended, and no one was hurt.


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Re: [CO] Cops defend use of pepper spray on 8-year-old during tantrum [Re: Joe Joe]
    #14265206 - 04/10/11 12:56 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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This is bullshit.

Cops must have used the same logic that they use when shooting a dog that's barking at them.  God forbid a grown man who has taken a risky job get a scratch from an 8 year old. 

Honestly the cops should never have been called in the first place.  What kind of pushover teachers do they have working at the school for kids with behavioral problems.  Teachers at a school like that should be able to handle kids with friggin sticks without getting LE involved... 

No wonder the kid acts like this with his mom, teachers, and counselors telling him "This is just who he is". This kid is going to be lucky if they don't drug him into a permanent stupor by 9.  All because the adults in his life don't have the patience or balls to deal with him.




A sharp stick is basically the same as a knife in that situation. You don't try to disarm the person by snatching it from them if you have pepper spray. That's how you end up getting stabbed.

Also, if his parents would just spank him when he deserved it, there wouldn't be this problem. Everyone I knew growing up would be to afraid of the consequences of doing something like that. Our parents made sure we knew there would be ones if we were assholes.


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Re: [CO] Cops defend use of pepper spray on 8-year-old during tantrum [Re: Joe Joe]
    #14265208 - 04/10/11 12:57 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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This is bullshit.

Cops must have used the same logic that they use when shooting a dog that's barking at them.  God forbid a grown man who has taken a risky job get a scratch from an 8 year old. 

Honestly the cops should never have been called in the first place.  What kind of pushover teachers do they have working at the school for kids with behavioral problems.  Teachers at a school like that should be able to handle kids with friggin sticks without getting LE involved... 

No wonder the kid acts like this with his mom, teachers, and counselors telling him "This is just who he is". This kid is going to be lucky if they don't drug him into a permanent stupor by 9.  All because the adults in his life don't have the patience or balls to deal with him.




Cops get hurt all the time, all though it's usually more minor, but every injury has to be professionally treated, documented, and in most cases hospitalized as per documentation.  Now, you might be thinking I'm just saying this inconveniences the officers, but that's not the only case.  Many towns will only run a couple officers at a time and rely on the buddy system in case shit gets really bad from other towns.  So, let's say one of the officers gets mildly stabbed and now has to go to the hospital - you have one fucking cop handling an entire town.  And, let's say it's a town with some shitty radio setup with dead spots - that officer is now on their own for every 911 call unless it comes over as something very serious as a shooting.  By the time a dispatcher notices that officer hasn't signed on for 30 minutes, it could very well be too late.  Also, it's not uncommon for 911 calls to really require more than 1 officer, although sometimes you just get short staffed. 

I want my town to be protected by more than one over worked guy.


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Re: [CO] Cops defend use of pepper spray on 8-year-old during tantrum [Re: bbl337]
    #14265219 - 04/10/11 01:03 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I am kinda wondering if the cops sprayed the kid to be dicks and then made up the part about the sharp stick and the kid yelling at them. If so  the cops are assholes. If not, the kid clearly deserved it.


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Re: [CO] Cops defend use of pepper spray on 8-year-old during tantrum [Re: Aser]
    #14265228 - 04/10/11 01:04 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I am kinda wondering if the cops sprayed the kid to be dicks and then made up the part about the sharp stick and the kid yelling at them. If so  the cops are assholes. If not, the kid clearly deserved it.




because the cops just ran into a school where they left this kid in a room alone, pepper sprayed him, and then the childs mom contacted news organizations because it was an outrage and agreed with the officers as to the events that occured.

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Re: [CO] Cops defend use of pepper spray on 8-year-old during tantrum [Re: bbl337]
    #14265246 - 04/10/11 01:11 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Okay so you had to be there to really judge shit. Still when I was in elementary some similar shit happened with a classmate of mine sucker punching 4 kids in a row. I was in trouble for some petty bullshit sitting out side the principals office as I watched some 6'8 behemoth pig scream in the kids face "ill monkey stomp your ass in the damn floor"... my class mate was like what 11?


Most cops are power hungry pricks who show off their authority like their trying to make up for a lack of dick size.

They're are a few cops who however are rare exception. Only a two months after I turned 18 somebullshit went down at my house and two officers showed up with me having no notification. Long story short they found my first shroom grow. Conficated it and did who knows what with it. I ended up spending a week in a pych hospital and got my adderal script from the visit. I still don't know why I'm not on charges for it. I guess bawling eyes out like a little pussy works sometimes after all


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Re: [CO] Cops defend use of pepper spray on 8-year-old during tantrum [Re: AbstraKt_I_Am]
    #14265466 - 04/10/11 03:03 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

i remember someone getting stabbed with a pencil at school, he went to the principle


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Re: [CO] Cops defend use of pepper spray on 8-year-old during tantrum [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #14265490 - 04/10/11 03:19 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Pepper spraying was the fastest easiest way to disarm the crazy little fuck, but they could have just as easily locked him up in the classroom and went and got a volelyball net from the gym. Or even -gasp- risked getting a superficial scratch from the little bugger and went in and man handled the stick away from him.


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Re: [CO] Cops defend use of pepper spray on 8-year-old during tantrum [Re: Tritium] * 1
    #14265504 - 04/10/11 03:32 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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That's one fucked up kid




no, those cops physically abused an 8 year old child, if they couldnt diffuse the situation without macing a 50 lb 8 year old they are fucking stupid ass morons who should be faggot ass mall cops!!


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Re: [CO] Cops defend use of pepper spray on 8-year-old during tantrum [Re: Pilz]
    #14265812 - 04/10/11 07:32 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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"I got like anger things," Aiden said. "It's just who I am. I think it's not ever going to go away."




That kid needs a serious, daily ass whooping by his parents. I bet he has seen his mom or father act this way, and that's where he gets it from. His parents probably don't punish him when he has a tantrum, so he just continues doing it. Sometimes you just have to go old school and bring out the belt or a thin branch off a tree. Just whip the little fucker until he is sobbing.


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Re: [CO] Cops defend use of pepper spray on 8-year-old during tantrum [Re: Aser]
    #14265923 - 04/10/11 08:08 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Using pepper spray indoors? Really? Sucks for the people who actually use that room, damn. Makes me want to go pepper spray his cruiser for a bit.


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Re: [CO] Cops defend use of pepper spray on 8-year-old during tantrum [Re: destructo_low]
    #14265976 - 04/10/11 08:38 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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"I got like anger things," Aiden said. "It's just who I am. I think it's not ever going to go away."




That kid needs a serious, daily ass whooping by his parents. I bet he has seen his mom or father act this way, and that's where he gets it from. His parents probably don't punish him when he has a tantrum, so he just continues doing it. Sometimes you just have to go old school and bring out the belt or a thin branch off a tree. Just whip the little fucker until he is sobbing.




QFT  If this kid doesn't get some serious fucking discipline soon it'll be too late and he'll become a problem to himself and society, him saying he's got anger issues is just an excuse that probably works just fine with his parents that don't punish him when he deserves it.


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Re: [CO] Cops defend use of pepper spray on 8-year-old during tantrum [Re: Riboflavin]
    #14265996 - 04/10/11 08:47 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

what happoned to teachers BUSTING student`s ass`s????? when i was in school they would beat your ass with a paddle if you did anything!! i would have never done that, they would break your ass over something like that when i was in school- then when i got home- i`d have gotten worse!!


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Re: [CO] Cops defend use of pepper spray on 8-year-old during tantrum [Re: melfdis]
    #14266088 - 04/10/11 09:16 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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The way some cops are, I'm surprised they didn't taze him or just shoot him.



:lol: What im saying. Man cops are pussies sometimes, just pull out the old "I win" button on anyone. Kids lucky he didnt get tazed


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Re: [CO] Cops defend use of pepper spray on 8-year-old during tantrum [Re: Almond Flour]
    #14266122 - 04/10/11 09:27 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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The way some cops are, I'm surprised they didn't taze him or just shoot him.



:lol: What im saying. Man cops are pussies sometimes, just pull out the old "I win" button on anyone. Kids lucky he didnt get tazed





Funny you should say that. A 11 y/o kid was just the youngest person to get tazed by the RCMP

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/story/2011/04/09/bc-taser-boy-investigation.html


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Re: [CO] Cops defend use of pepper spray on 8-year-old during tantrum [Re: Ahab McBathsalts]
    #14266133 - 04/10/11 09:32 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

You don't have to be 18 to be a cop killer, and just because you're waving a stick doesn't mean you don't have a knife or gun.
Plus, if a cop gets stabbed, who gets hurt? The taxpayers.

I won't say the cops were right, but they sure were not wrong in this case.


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Re: [CO] Cops defend use of pepper spray on 8-year-old during tantrum [Re: Almond Flour]
    #14266150 - 04/10/11 09:39 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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:lol: What im saying. Man cops are pussies sometimes, just pull out the old "I win" button on anyone. Kids lucky he didnt get tazed




Even fierce squirrels





Sounded like the kid was lucky he didn't get beat with a club. To bad after this you know his parents won't smack some sense into him. Just coddle him like the little bratty peice if shit he is.


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Re: [CO] Cops defend use of pepper spray on 8-year-old during tantrum [Re: 4runner]
    #14266217 - 04/10/11 09:58 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Umm...Did it ever occur to them that you that a 8 year old with a piece of wood isn't really a problem.  Pussy ass cops, grab the damn wood and take it out of his hands.  Oh noes, he stabs you, at worst a flesh wound.  I think the officers of the law have a civil and moral duty to ensure the safety of everyone possible.  That includes people who may be dangerous.  Welfare of child > Officer's welfare.


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