Home | Community | Message Board

Sporeworks
This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order   Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom

Jump to first unread post Pages: 1 | 2 | Next >  [ show all ]
OfflineHumility
Working on it
 User Gallery


Registered: 10/07/08
Posts: 6,745
Last seen: 7 years, 11 days
There is no pleasure of this material world that doesn't come with more suffering * 1
    #14263936 - 04/09/11 05:58 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I truly believe this at this point.  I'm done with the pursuit, it's truly fruitless.

I'm grateful.


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineskatealex2
////////////////
 User Gallery


Registered: 07/04/08
Posts: 18,699
Last seen: 4 months, 26 days
Re: There is no pleasure of this material world that doesn't come with more suffering [Re: Humility]
    #14263971 - 04/09/11 06:17 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Spiritual World has suffering too :crazy:

Edited by skatealex2 (04/09/11 06:37 PM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleKid_Orgo
 User Gallery


Registered: 09/24/03
Posts: 5,514
Loc: Hale-Bopp
Re: There is no pleasure of this material world that doesn't come with more suffering [Re: Humility] * 2
    #14264264 - 04/09/11 08:22 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Counter-examples:

1) taking a satisfying dump
2) a fritatta that comes out perfect
3) that first gulp of a cold beer after a long day
4) fucking your significant other until she's just a sweaty mess of joy

If you're finding fault with that kind of stuff, well...


--------------------
He was a cowboy in one of the seven days a week fights. No business, no hangout; no friends, nothing; just what you pick up and what you need.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinetyler_0_durden
Stranger


Registered: 10/28/07
Posts: 1,861
Last seen: 12 years, 3 months
Re: There is no pleasure of this material world that doesn't come with more suffering [Re: Humility]
    #14264267 - 04/09/11 08:22 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Humility said:
I truly believe this at this point.  I'm done with the pursuit, it's truly fruitless.

I'm grateful.




If it was all pleasure, we wouldn't have anything to compare it to, so we wouldn't know we were experiencing pleasure.

Gotta have pain in order to have pleasure.


--------------------
"As a man who has devoted his whole life to the most clear headed science, to the study of matter, I can tell you as a result of my research about atoms this much: There is no matter as such. All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force which brings the particle of an atom to vibration and holds this most minute solar system of the atom together. We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent mind. This mind is the matrix of all matter."  --Max Planck

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleSlashOZ
:D
Male


Registered: 10/20/06
Posts: 3,557
Loc: Following the water cycle
Re: There is no pleasure of this material world that doesn't come with more suffering [Re: tyler_0_durden] * 2
    #14264747 - 04/09/11 10:38 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

So you are done seeking pleasure because you experience pain? Just kill yourself and end all your highs and lows.


--------------------
"Life sucks but in this really beautiful way" - Axl Rose
"Life's a bitch and then you die that's why we get high cuz you never know when you're gonna go." - NAS
"When people don't know what you're about they put you down and shut you out" - Black Sabbath
"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind" - Gandhi
"Look up at me I am God, look down on me and I am evil, look at me I am you." - Charles Manson.
"Don't question my reality." - Me (as far as I know)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineHumility
Working on it
 User Gallery


Registered: 10/07/08
Posts: 6,745
Last seen: 7 years, 11 days
Re: There is no pleasure of this material world that doesn't come with more suffering [Re: SlashOZ] * 1
    #14265143 - 04/10/11 12:36 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

SlashOZ said:
So you are done seeking pleasure because you experience pain? Just kill yourself and end all your highs and lows.





I don't quite know what I'm doing, but I certainly can't keep chasing after sensual pleasures.  They always result in suffering; even after you've attained them!

There's got to be something else.


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineUnison
Stranger

Registered: 11/08/10
Posts: 290
Loc: Colorado Flag
Last seen: 11 years, 7 months
Re: There is no pleasure of this material world that doesn't come with more suffering [Re: Humility]
    #14265218 - 04/10/11 01:02 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

You're not supposed to experience only pleasure. Suffering is a part of the ride.

And do not use that as a way to be content with suffering. You're not supposed to want or be content with suffering. Suffering is a part of being alive.

Surrounding yourself in pleasure/love is like surrounding yourself in the color blue.

Life is living itself. There's no you, just life living itself. That's what this is. And suffering is a part of it. Suffering is not bad, it's just something you're not supposed to like.

Edited by Unison (04/10/11 01:03 AM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleOrgoneConclusion
Blue Fish Group
Male User Gallery


Registered: 04/01/07
Posts: 45,432
Loc: Under the C
Re: There is no pleasure of this material world that doesn't come with more suffering [Re: Humility]
    #14265241 - 04/10/11 01:09 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

There's got to be something else.




B-E-C-A-U-S-E?


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineUnison
Stranger

Registered: 11/08/10
Posts: 290
Loc: Colorado Flag
Last seen: 11 years, 7 months
Re: There is no pleasure of this material world that doesn't come with more suffering [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #14265402 - 04/10/11 02:26 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

OrgoneConclusion said:
B-E-C-A-U-S-E?



Question of the day.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineUnison
Stranger

Registered: 11/08/10
Posts: 290
Loc: Colorado Flag
Last seen: 11 years, 7 months
Re: There is no pleasure of this material world that doesn't come with more suffering [Re: Unison]
    #14265415 - 04/10/11 02:31 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Thank you for being so real, OC.

Edited by Unison (04/10/11 02:31 AM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleTropism
ChasingTail


Registered: 09/12/09
Posts: 2,039
Re: There is no pleasure of this material world that doesn't come with more suffering [Re: Humility]
    #14266370 - 04/10/11 10:34 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Humility said:
Quote:

SlashOZ said:
So you are done seeking pleasure because you experience pain? Just kill yourself and end all your highs and lows.





I don't quite know what I'm doing, but I certainly can't keep chasing after sensual pleasures.  They always result in suffering; even after you've attained them!

There's got to be something else.




There is something else, and that something else is suffering.
We've made all of our comforts and easily obtained pleasures, the universe didn't simply plop these things in our laps nor will it yours.
If you aren't going to work for your own gratification I hope you don't expect someone else to.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineSimms
Fuckwit
Male User Gallery

Registered: 11/17/08
Posts: 1,109
Loc: Somewhere in Europe
Last seen: 2 years, 7 months
Re: There is no pleasure of this material world that doesn't come with more suffering [Re: Tropism]
    #14267736 - 04/10/11 04:04 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Are we talking about suffering to the one who got happiness, or suffering in general, like: You take a dump and feel good, but someone else suffocates?

But when you take a dump, then again you need to suffer first in order to feel you need to take a dump to even get that happy relevation.


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineg00ru
lit pants tit licker
Male User Gallery


Registered: 08/09/07
Posts: 21,088
Loc: georgia, us
Last seen: 5 years, 2 months
Re: There is no pleasure of this material world that doesn't come with more suffering [Re: Humility]
    #14268255 - 04/10/11 06:03 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Love is pain, it's true. But I think there are better and worse ways for suffering to manifest...however, if you are truly done with it that's beautiful and commendable.


--------------------
check out my music!
drowse in prison and your waking will be but loss

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineriaahacker
Stranger

Registered: 06/09/09
Posts: 16
Last seen: 11 years, 5 months
Re: There is no pleasure of this material world that doesn't come with more suffering [Re: tyler_0_durden]
    #14269648 - 04/10/11 10:06 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

1) Implant electrode into NAc.
2) Stimulate neurons.
3) Repeat until death occurs.

Might not be what most people call a "fulfilling" life, but one does not need anything to compare pleasure to in order to feel it.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineJoolz
Male

Registered: 09/19/10
Posts: 3,614
Last seen: 11 years, 4 months
Re: There is no pleasure of this material world that doesn't come with more suffering [Re: riaahacker]
    #14269989 - 04/10/11 11:22 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Could you understand joy and pleasure if you didn't have suffering or pain?


--------------------
Prohibition didn't work for God; Eve ate the fruit.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineriaahacker
Stranger

Registered: 06/09/09
Posts: 16
Last seen: 11 years, 5 months
Re: There is no pleasure of this material world that doesn't come with more suffering [Re: Joolz]
    #14270271 - 04/11/11 12:26 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Experience and understanding seem to me like two different things. Someone who comes in contact with painful stimuli will for the most part instinctively withdrawal from whatever caused it. The experiences seems on some level hardwired to produce certain responses without any conscious thought.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineJoolz
Male

Registered: 09/19/10
Posts: 3,614
Last seen: 11 years, 4 months
Re: There is no pleasure of this material world that doesn't come with more suffering [Re: riaahacker]
    #14270283 - 04/11/11 12:29 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

riaahacker said:
Experience and understanding seem to me like two different things. Someone who comes in contact with painful stimuli will for the most part instinctively withdrawal from whatever caused it. The experiences seems on some level hardwired to produce certain responses without any conscious thought.




That's called instincts and years and years of evolution imo.


--------------------
Prohibition didn't work for God; Eve ate the fruit.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineandrewss
precariously aggrandized


Registered: 08/17/07
Posts: 8,725
Loc: ohio
Last seen: 2 months, 15 days
Re: There is no pleasure of this material world that doesn't come with more suffering [Re: Joolz]
    #14270296 - 04/11/11 12:31 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)



--------------------
Jesus loves you.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineGoose
Student of life
Male


Registered: 02/23/07
Posts: 246
Last seen: 4 years, 4 months
Re: There is no pleasure of this material world that doesn't come with more suffering [Re: andrewss]
    #14270329 - 04/11/11 12:45 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

there is an end to suffering. in life


--------------------
"i will study and prepare myself so that when my opportunity comes i will be ready" Abraham Lincoln

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinetyler_0_durden
Stranger


Registered: 10/28/07
Posts: 1,861
Last seen: 12 years, 3 months
Re: There is no pleasure of this material world that doesn't come with more suffering [Re: Goose]
    #14270383 - 04/11/11 01:13 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

To the OP: Honestly...what'd you expect? No suffering? Its tangibly impossible.


--------------------
"As a man who has devoted his whole life to the most clear headed science, to the study of matter, I can tell you as a result of my research about atoms this much: There is no matter as such. All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force which brings the particle of an atom to vibration and holds this most minute solar system of the atom together. We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent mind. This mind is the matrix of all matter."  --Max Planck

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: 1 | 2 | Next >  [ show all ]

Shop: Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order   Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Materialism
( 1 2 all )
Swami 3,632 30 01/08/04 09:09 AM
by fireworks_god
* If Jesus suffered for our sins...
( 1 2 3 4 5 6 all )
Phluck 6,597 107 12/06/02 07:35 PM
by 1stimer
* thinking about human suffering (whileshroomin) isabellegoddess 1,831 15 12/21/02 02:33 AM
by SnuffelzFurever
* Suffering for Others
( 1 2 all )
DoctorJ 2,988 26 03/18/04 11:08 PM
by daba
* Suffering- Good?
( 1 2 all )
Sclorch 2,356 24 06/06/03 11:20 AM
by Evolving
* I was put on this earth to suffer carbonhoots 1,105 8 01/08/02 12:32 PM
by Tannis
* Less material possessions: enlightenment or boredom?
( 1 2 all )
Anonymous 2,620 30 05/29/03 06:24 PM
by Swami
* materialism=psychosis
( 1 2 all )
atomikfunksoldier 3,106 30 06/29/03 11:00 PM
by Rhizoid

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Middleman, DividedQuantum
2,893 topic views. 3 members, 1 guests and 6 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2024 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.033 seconds spending 0.007 seconds on 14 queries.