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Why did the Dutch ban magic mushrooms?
#14261129 - 04/08/11 11:00 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Someone please satisfy my curiosity. Why did the Dutch ban magic mushrooms?
I have read that some French bitch killed herself after eating some shrooms in Amsterdam. I have searched and have not found any other incidents of shrooms being linked to deaths in the Netherlands. So my question is why is that one French bitch so important that the Dutch would do a complete about-face on their most enlightened drug policy? Who was that bitch? Is her family into politics?
Also, I find it odd that the Dutch would ban cubensis and panaeolus but not sclerotia. Why did they do that? Was it just ignorance on the part of the Dutch politicians or were they actually granting a concession to the smart shops?
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Re: Why did the Dutch ban magic mushrooms? [Re: overstand]
#14261136 - 04/08/11 11:02 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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maybe because sclerotia is a more mellow trip. idk i live in the us where everything is illegal
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Re: Why did the Dutch ban magic mushrooms? [Re: overstand]
#14261138 - 04/08/11 11:03 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: Why did the Dutch ban magic mushrooms? [Re: makaveli8x8] 2
#14261239 - 04/08/11 11:22 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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The officials banned them because of a tourist suicide if I`m not wrong,and other tourists freaking around from taking too many shroomies for the first time.
I`m glad they did though.It`s wrong to sell god`s gifts in a Coffe Shop to unexperienced people,then let them freak out in the city. When you are ready,find the or the will find you.
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Re: Why did the Dutch ban magic mushrooms? [Re: Damkina]
#14261480 - 04/09/11 12:39 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Damkina said: I`m glad they did though.It`s wrong to sell god`s gifts in a Coffe Shop to unexperienced people,then let them freak out in the city. When you are ready,find the or the will find you.
so... it should be illegal instead?
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Re: Why did the Dutch ban magic mushrooms? [Re: frisky_]
#14261515 - 04/09/11 12:49 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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They got tired of being a destination for drug tourism and voted to change things. Ways the bug deal? 
I know I wouldn't want a bunch of French college kids on spring break or their printemps prance shrooming in my town.
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Re: Why did the Dutch ban magic mushrooms? [Re: shroomie_glen]
#14261546 - 04/09/11 01:02 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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shroomie_glen said: maybe because sclerotia is a more mellow trip. idk i live in the us where everything is illegal
I live in Australia where EVERYTHING is illegal...
first country to ban salvia.. and trying to ban native plants.... fuckers.
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Re: Why did the Dutch ban magic mushrooms? [Re: mrckb]
#14261574 - 04/09/11 01:22 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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It's funny, they banned mushrooms but they continue to sell sclerotia or what they call truffles now. This is what the smart shop owners explained to me when I was there in July of last year, anyway. They still do the same thing, or nearly, but there aren't as many varieties as there used to be.
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Re: Why did the Dutch ban magic mushrooms? [Re: bonnahoo]
#14261577 - 04/09/11 01:23 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Oh and yes it was because of the drug tourists and related death(s)
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Re: Why did the Dutch ban magic mushrooms? [Re: bonnahoo]
#14261586 - 04/09/11 01:29 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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It was because tourists were getting drunk and eating . Which multiplies the high chemically in the body. And some girl walked off a bridge in amsterdam and died. Whick sucks but wtf she was trippin alone i guess. Basically noobs killd it.
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Noobs kill lots of stuff. Who do you think made salvia illegal? Noobs.
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Re: Why did the Dutch ban magic mushrooms? [Re: Shroomism]
#14261732 - 04/09/11 02:38 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Shroomism said: Noobs kill lots of stuff. Who do you think made salvia illegal? Noobs.
Its in my sig... the did actually
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Re: Why did the Dutch ban magic mushrooms? [Re: overstand]
#14261733 - 04/09/11 02:39 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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overstand said: I have read that some French bitch killed herself after eating some shrooms in Amsterdam. I have searched and have not found any other incidents of shrooms being linked to deaths in the Netherlands. So my question is why is that one French bitch so important that the Dutch would do a complete about-face on their most enlightened drug policy? Who was that bitch? Is her family into politics?
Apart from the French girl, there have been two incidents around that time. One was about some moron who slaughtered his dog in the bag of his van in the middle of Amsterdam while stoned, drunk, high on shrooms and God knows what else. The other was some brainless dude who went driving while drunk, stoned and high on shrooms; he crashed his car on a pole right in front of a camp site. If not for the pole, he'd have run right through the campsite. Note that in both of these cases, shrooms were not the only drug involved. This was also true in the case of the French girl, who was apparently stoned out of her mind before she decided to ingest a hefty dose of shrooms. The French girl hadn't any political ties as far as I know, but these incidents were convenient for the Christian politicians who were in control at the time and they immediately grasped the opportunity to ban this satanic drug.
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Also, I find it odd that the Dutch would ban cubensis and panaeolus but not sclerotia. Why did they do that? Was it just ignorance on the part of the Dutch politicians or were they actually granting a concession to the smart shops?
This was actually a result of stupidity on behalf of the lawmakers. They copied an outdated and ill-informed list of species of psychoactive mushrooms from an Italian university's website. Within 24 hours of the legislation being publicized, the errors in the list were discovered, but the legislators didn't bother putting them right. Ps. tampanensis was not on that list. Nor was psilocybe cubensis, but it's extremely outdated synonym stropharia cubensis...
Edited by koraks (04/09/11 02:40 AM)
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Re: Why did the Dutch ban magic mushrooms? [Re: koraks]
#14261735 - 04/09/11 02:41 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Why did the Dutch ban magic mushrooms?
Cause there the fuckin dutch
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Re: Why did the Dutch ban magic mushrooms? [Re: Damkina]
#14261740 - 04/09/11 02:43 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Damkina said: The officials banned them because of a tourist suicide if I`m not wrong,and other tourists freaking around from taking too many shroomies for the first time.
I`m glad they did though.It`s wrong to sell god`s gifts in a Coffe Shop to unexperienced people,then let them freak out in the city. When you are ready,find the or the will find you.
So some stupid 16 year jumped out of a bus window. Ulitimate freedom withouth responsiblity is stupid, of course. When being in jail for lsd there has to be some legal way, somewhere in the world, where responsible adults can purchase it without shady conditions.
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Re: Why did the Dutch ban magic mushrooms? [Re: timelapses]
#14261770 - 04/09/11 03:14 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Well yes,pretty much I am fine with mushrooms being illegal.Who wants to use them for themselves, can grow them with little effort and knowledge.And if he is not greedy,there is a small risk involved.And talking of risks,we take risks everytime we cook,everytime we walk the street.The risk is too small for the rewards.
I would like to live in a world where everyone could appreciate the true value of psychedelics,and yes then,they could be all legal.But that is not the case.
Psychedelics are awesome tools indeed,but they should be used for terapeutic,spiritual,why not tantric purposes.
Using them for fun is egoistic. And risky too.
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Re: Why did the Dutch ban magic mushrooms? [Re: Damkina]
#14261780 - 04/09/11 03:23 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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There shrooms dude, they make you hallucinate. Putting a over sized value on the hallucinations they produce is far more risky then just taking them to have some fun or to explore your consciousness. Shit can easily lead to mental problems down the line if you take everything they make you experience way to seriously.
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Re: Why did the Dutch ban magic mushrooms? [Re: Damkina]
#14261781 - 04/09/11 03:24 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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In my experience it was to break down the ego. Reality in some extent to gain or gleam wisdom. Of society and the world through my and yours filter. And yes I believe in conditioning, societal condtioning. Show me truth, and I will be open.
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Re: Why did the Dutch ban magic mushrooms? [Re: overstand]
#14261812 - 04/09/11 04:17 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Cuz shroomz made them gay brah.
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Re: Why did the Dutch ban magic mushrooms? [Re: Yacub]
#14261848 - 04/09/11 04:54 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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It was only a matter of time before shrooms were banned in Amsterdam. I remember a time when they were everywhere. But unfortunately, a small minority need to ruin things for the rest of us, as per usual. There was just too many tourists going over to Amsterdam for a few days with that attitude that swallowing shrooms was just like smoking weed - it was a must.
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