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Noteworthy differences, if any, between Galindoi (ATL #7) and Mexicana sclerotia
    #14261479 - 04/09/11 12:39 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

It appears that these two strains are the most talked about sclerotia producers.

In several threads regarding sclerotia, some veterans of the board and knowledgeable members have mentioned Mexicana was their favorite: RR, Cervantes, Stonesun

And in other threads, many people have preferred ATL #7. I found the differences interesting and wondered if the differences were subtle or markedly different. As a result of being unknowledgeable, it'd be great if anyone could chime in and share their thoughts and/or experience.


Which do you prefer and why?

Are there notable differences in the production of stones/fruits and in trips between the two strains?

Anything interesting to add that might be uncommon knowledge and useful about these two types of sclerotia?


[Note: RR clearly wrote that P Mexicana was his favorite of the bunch; however Stonesun wrote "section Mexicanae".
Does P. Mexicana and the Mexicanae family mean the same thing? Does P. Mexicana or Mexicanae mean strains such as A/B/Jalisco? Would ATL #7 be part of the Mexicanae family? Could somebody please illuminate. :sun:]


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Re: ATL #7 vs. Mexicana sclerotia [Re: Atlantis]
    #14262060 - 04/09/11 07:38 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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[Note: RR clearly wrote that P Mexicana was his favorite of the bunch; however Stonesun wrote "section Mexicanae".
Does P. Mexicana and the Mexicanae family mean the same thing? Does P. Mexicana or Mexicanae mean strains such as A/B/Jalisco? Would ATL #7 be part of the Mexicanae family? Could somebody please illuminate. :sun:]




Mexicanae is a section in the Psilocybe genus.
Some species in this section produce sclerotia, like P. mexicana, P. tampanensis
and P. galindoi, just to name the "infamous three".
When you refer to "ATL#7" it is actually P. galindoi, so yes, that's part of
the Mexicanae too.
A/B/Jalisco are variants of P. mexicana.
When I wrote that my favorite is section Mexicanae to cultivate, I meant that I like it's
species for their overall macroscopic appearance.
As far as sclerotia production goes, my ultimate favorite is P. mexicana/A.
The yield is fantastic, but it is pretty difficult to fruit.
P. galindoi/ATL#7 has lower but still great yield however it's much easier to fruit.
P. tampanesis yields OK, fruits OK.
This is from the cultivator POV only, since I don't trip.
Hope it clears some thing up.


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Re: ATL #7 vs. Mexicana sclerotia [Re: stonesun]
    #14262109 - 04/09/11 08:08 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I prefer ATL #7, the sclerotia are huge and fast growing, in my experience, as compared to Mexicana.


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Re: ATL #7 vs. Mexicana sclerotia [Re: myco99]
    #14262182 - 04/09/11 08:36 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

My ATL7 is a really slow colonizer. Is this normal?


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Re: ATL #7 vs. Mexicana sclerotia [Re: stonesun]
    #14263426 - 04/09/11 03:13 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks Stonesun for your useful reply. Very much appreciate your informative posts and threads in general as well. :thumbup:


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Re: ATL #7 vs. Mexicana sclerotia [Re: Atlantis]
    #14263627 - 04/09/11 04:09 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Stonesun.  You are a god among gods.  From your sclerotia guide to your immaculate brew setup.  Its all amazing...


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Re: ATL #7 vs. Mexicana sclerotia [Re: stonesun]
    #14263727 - 04/09/11 04:38 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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As far as sclerotia production goes, my ultimate favorite is P. mexicana/A.





Agreed.  It's also higher quality in my opinion.
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Re: ATL #7 vs. Mexicana sclerotia [Re: myco99]
    #14265066 - 04/10/11 12:04 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks for adding your input as well Myco99. Another thing Myco, good sir:tongue2:, could you please elaborate a little more about your experiences? Very curious about your opinion/ experience/ knowledge on the differences between Mexicana and ATL #7 (Galindoi). Please do share a little more. :thumbup:


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Re: ATL #7 vs. Mexicana sclerotia [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #14265071 - 04/10/11 12:06 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Hey Roger [or anyone knowledgeable], if it's not too much to ask good sir:tongue2:, could you please elaborate on the Mexicana A being of higher quality? It would be very useful information and I'm very curious about the reasons for Mexicana A being of higher quality [compared to Galindoi/ B/ Jalisco?]. Thanks for the input and please do shine more light if it's not too much trouble. :thumbup:


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Re: ATL #7 vs. Mexicana sclerotia [Re: Atlantis]
    #14270238 - 04/11/11 12:19 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Anybody have experience with both Mexicana A and ATL#7 (Galindoi) and care to share?


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Re: ATL #7 vs. Mexicana sclerotia [Re: Atlantis]
    #14270434 - 04/11/11 01:35 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

None with mexicana.. But I've tripped off Atl#7 and plan on growing some soon since I've had the spores for awhile. Compared to cubensis I felt like the atl have been more visual any times I've taken them and easier on the stomach.


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Re: ATL #7 vs. Mexicana sclerotia [Re: AbstraKt_I_Am]
    #14275945 - 04/12/11 12:28 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks for sharing Abstrakt. :thumbup:Please let us know how mexicana turns out. Anyone else got any valuable experiences?


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Re: ATL #7 vs. Mexicana sclerotia [Re: Atlantis]
    #14280358 - 04/12/11 08:48 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Changed title for better searching. Anyone else care to share information on the following:

Which do you prefer and why?

Are there notable differences in the production of stones/fruits?

Are there notable differences in trips between the two strains?

Anything interesting to add that might be uncommon knowledge and useful about these two types of sclerotia?


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Re: ATL #7 vs. Mexicana sclerotia [Re: Atlantis]
    #14280394 - 04/12/11 08:54 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: ATL #7 vs. Mexicana sclerotia [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #14280461 - 04/12/11 09:04 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Much appreciated M11, however already read that early on in the search and am looking for more details. Guess that wasn't so clear :crazy2:. Most notably information about the "higher quality" of Mexicana A would be great.
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As far as sclerotia production goes, my ultimate favorite is P. mexicana/A.





Agreed.  It's also higher quality in my opinion.
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Re: ATL #7 vs. Mexicana sclerotia [Re: Atlantis]
    #14280503 - 04/12/11 09:10 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Atlantis said:
Much appreciated M11, however already read that early on in the search and am looking for more details. Guess that wasn't so clear :crazy2:. Most notably information about the "higher quality" of Mexicana A would be great.
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RogerRabbit said:
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As far as sclerotia production goes, my ultimate favorite is P. mexicana/A.





Agreed.  It's also higher quality in my opinion.
RR







I am curious about that as well.  I have always grown ATL 7.  They have never failed me.  They are very potent.  I have been averaging about 140-150 g a jar from my last batch.  If Mexicana are regarded as superior by RR and Stonesun, I am very inclined to try them for my next grow.


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Re: ATL #7 vs. Mexicana sclerotia [Re: M11]
    #14285727 - 04/13/11 06:38 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Anybody else care to shine some light? :rolleyes:


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Re: ATL #7 vs. Mexicana sclerotia [Re: Atlantis]
    #14285776 - 04/13/11 06:46 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah, I enjoy getting the expert opinion on what I would consider a subtlety. I was riding the fence for a while on which strain to adopt as my own, and I finally decided on mexicana A because RR tipped the scale. If ATL7 stones are considerably larger, then they might be worth the convenience of not needing to dig through grains for the smaller stones.


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Re: ATL #7 vs. Mexicana sclerotia [Re: Atlantis]
    #14285878 - 04/13/11 07:01 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I just want to know if higher quality means more potent.


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Re: ATL #7 vs. Mexicana sclerotia [Re: M11]
    #14293061 - 04/14/11 10:17 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Yeah, I enjoy getting the expert opinion on what I would consider a subtlety. I was riding the fence for a while on which strain to adopt as my own, and I finally decided on mexicana A because RR tipped the scale. If ATL7 stones are considerably larger, then they might be worth the convenience of not needing to dig through grains for the smaller stones.




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I just want to know if higher quality means more potent.





I want to know the same too, thesoundd and M11. :tongue2:

Anyone have the experience of Mexicana A being a "higher quality" than other sclerotia producing strains? Or any other opinions and/or experiences? :rolleyes:


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