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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Salvia to prep spec. ops. for torture?
    #14261313 - 04/08/11 11:41 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Just a thought, as horribly uncomfortable as salvia can be, could they subject willing soldiers to some crazy 200x concentration until they can remember it and then feel it (lol i'm prettyy sure it's not going to be too pleasant) and then eventually withstand it and then move up from there to who the fuck knows how strong?  It seems like this could actually really harden somebody to both mental and physical torture.


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Re: Salvia to prep spec. ops. for torture? [Re: tokinman21]
    #14261782 - 04/09/11 03:24 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Salvia to prep spec. ops. for torture? [Re: SalviNate]
    #14261784 - 04/09/11 03:27 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

:eek: Yea..you could prepare them for torture....

Will they ever come back? :laugh: What about the torture of desillusions and psychological madness?


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Re: Salvia to prep spec. ops. for torture? [Re: Damkina]
    #14262398 - 04/09/11 10:04 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Damkina said:
:eek: Yea..you could prepare them for torture....

Will they ever come back? :laugh: What about the torture of desillusions and psychological madness?




Well that's why I said willing candidates, it could be horrid.  But salvia doesn't seem to leave you reeling once you take a little time away from the trip like other psychs can...it might be a rough ride when you're on it, but once you're off it you're off it.  Or is that just me?


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Re: Salvia to prep spec. ops. for torture? [Re: tokinman21]
    #14262629 - 04/09/11 11:05 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

hypnotics and tranquilizers would probably be much better. The opoid derived pharma drugs. You can then teach them to fight off hypnotic states, maintain consciousness, and the hallucinations can be plenty weird/horrifying. You can always combine this with other things, like black metal, cutting, cold exposure, sleep deprivation, etc. I did some of that just for the personal enrichment. I don't think a physical ordeal would help, military does enough physical training.

Honestly, the best solution to surviving interrogation would probably be the ability to escape mentally. Training like this will allow you to not become hysterical to some extent. But if someone is taking a blow torch to your eye, that's what you need. Eventually you will crack. From what I hear, everyone does, every time. Unless you can escape mentally completely.


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