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Re: 1st BRF PF Golden Teacher Grow [Re: AcidOnTap]
    #14605509 - 06/13/11 10:54 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

all will come to those who wait my friend. good things will come to those who wait. yada yada yada..... maby if you can get some coco coir you could try to crumble them into a pan and cover them with the coir like a casing. worked for me on 1 of my cakes that was not pinning and i got at least 3 grams out of a 50ml cake im guessing.


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Re: 1st BRF PF Golden Teacher Grow [Re: lostinbq]
    #14606223 - 06/13/11 01:21 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

well I feel like Im inclined to put the word out for any other newbs having trouble.

In the Tek I didnt see any instructions after the dunk and roll and placing them in the terrarium. Thats because there is none. Let them sit until you get pinning no spraying nothing.

Maybe fanning. Now if youve already messed up or your conditions aint right or stalling whatever the case.

Make a layered casing in the terrarium with some kind of moisturizing on the bottom like soil or perlite then a layer of barrier which ive got verm

then on top just a light layer of verm to cover then spray a few times then let them sit.

This did it for me when all seemed to be lost. Hoping on the AA to take like the B+ I thought Id never see the B+ get going and here they are.


Use your intuition.  THanks you teks and help from homies here on the forum. and cross your fingers on the AA should be well.

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Re: 1st BRF PF Golden Teacher Grow [Re: AcidOnTap]
    #14607862 - 06/13/11 06:18 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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well I feel like Im inclined to put the word out for any other newbs having trouble.

In the Tek I didnt see any instructions after the dunk and roll and placing them in the terrarium. Thats because there is none. Let them sit until you get pinning no spraying nothing.

Maybe fanning. Now if youve already messed up or your conditions aint right or stalling whatever the case.

Make a layered casing in the terrarium with some kind of moisturizing on the bottom like soil or perlite then a layer of barrier which ive got verm

then on top just a light layer of verm to cover then spray a few times then let them sit.

This did it for me when all seemed to be lost. Hoping on the AA to take like the B+ I thought Id never see the B+ get going and here they are.


Use your intuition.  THanks you teks and help from homies here on the forum. and cross your fingers on the AA should be well.

AOT




Actually, during pinning you want A LOT of FAE and spraying since evaporation is what triggers pinning(and light)


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Re: 1st BRF PF Golden Teacher Grow [Re: Swwert]
    #14607904 - 06/13/11 06:25 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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AcidOnTap said:
well I feel like Im inclined to put the word out for any other newbs having trouble.

In the Tek I didnt see any instructions after the dunk and roll and placing them in the terrarium. Thats because there is none. Let them sit until you get pinning no spraying nothing.

Maybe fanning. Now if youve already messed up or your conditions aint right or stalling whatever the case.

Make a layered casing in the terrarium with some kind of moisturizing on the bottom like soil or perlite then a layer of barrier which ive got verm

then on top just a light layer of verm to cover then spray a few times then let them sit.

This did it for me when all seemed to be lost. Hoping on the AA to take like the B+ I thought Id never see the B+ get going and here they are.


Use your intuition.  THanks you teks and help from homies here on the forum. and cross your fingers on the AA should be well.

AOT




Actually, during pinning you want A LOT of FAE and spraying since evaporation is what triggers pinning(and light)



to much misting can make them abort on you. i learnd the hard way and mad a vary nice pin set abort :frown:. mist just as much as is needed to keep ur RH 95%+.

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Re: 1st BRF PF Golden Teacher Grow [Re: ShadOWCrack]
    #14609099 - 06/13/11 09:47 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

yea i found that out the hard way too. but cence i mist in the morning wicked heavy, FAE 3-4 times a day and now after my 2nd dunk i got pins coming out, just put them caks back into the chamber on saturday;. i also mist decently at night b4 bed when i fan.

this is what brought me to the realization of the matter. and to be honest i thought those 2 were aborts as well cos they got a dark blue color while they were still pins.


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Re: 1st BRF PF Golden Teacher Grow [Re: lostinbq]
    #14610771 - 06/14/11 07:54 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

well im not sure what to think of it all but this is what happen and Im trying to salvage a grow so anybody with any light to shed on the subject would be nice.

I had these cakes I layered in small individual containers. Bottom layer was soil and verm with a touch of water. Then crumbled mycelium and top layer was more soil misted on top. I let them sit and nothing happen they just took over the layers.

So I took them out a few days later and put them in a bigger container with a wet paper towel underneath for moisture. All they did was get soggy. SO I took them out and crumbled up the entire thing soil verm and all and just took the paper towel out and put a thin layer of verm on top and misted to field capacity basically and let them sit and Boom I get some pins and it seems that theyre growing all over the place. I knocked it over once and had to kind of doctor it up but thats when i noticed the pins.

All the white specs are pins. What did I do right/wrong. Im trying to save another 12 cakes with whatever happened here. : /




Well after digging for a second I realized that I may have done more damage with the knock over than I imagined because there are pins everywhere but its strange it seems that they are growing all different directions inside. I think they just got buried from me knocking it over. Could it be that they are growing like that because of the light with the sides of container being transparent?

So I did a rescue mission and dug up all the pins which is a huge number now and reset them in the verm and what not so that hopefully they survive. I would like the AA to start pinning the same way.


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Re: 1st BRF PF Golden Teacher Grow [Re: AcidOnTap]
    #14611012 - 06/14/11 09:32 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

umm im still waking up and drinking my coffee so ill re-read your post again in a hour or so. what kind of soil are you using? and by diging the pins up did u mean you unearthed them?


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Re: 1st BRF PF Golden Teacher Grow [Re: lostinbq]
    #14611027 - 06/14/11 09:36 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Im just using potting soil. And yes I unearthed them. Like I said it seems that some were from me knocking it over and some seem like they were growing that down below the surface.

I just took a few and redunked them to see if maybe it will help later when I take them out. Prolly only for a few hours...

But yea i had to dig all the pieces out that had shrooms growing and reorganize the tray so that they were on the surface and fairly stable.

Not sure what Im thinking on the AA in the big terrarium. It may be that I over sprayed after the dunk and stalled them out so maybe Ill have to soak them real good then let them sit and dry up to see if the evaporation will help them pin. All the mycelium seems healthy so Im just trying to get some kind of reaction.


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Re: 1st BRF PF Golden Teacher Grow [Re: AcidOnTap]
    #14611210 - 06/14/11 10:16 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)



This is the first puerto rican that grew from the beginning and until I had some good instructions and trial and error did I get anymore to start popping up which now theres quite a few I think Ill spore print this one and make some LC for a very near future grow since they withstood my ignorance and what have you..

Now that I know what to do hopefully after a dunk rather than what I did. Still these AA are wearing on my brain I need them to grow.


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Re: 1st BRF PF Golden Teacher Grow [Re: AcidOnTap]
    #14613864 - 06/14/11 07:10 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

So I am also on my first grow. I have 4 brf cakes I dunked and rolled and have been in my terrarium for 5 days now. They have bright white, fluffy growth. Is this normal, do I need to change conditions? Is there any way to trigger pinning? Thanks for any help!


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Re: 1st BRF PF Golden Teacher Grow [Re: deannafelton]
    #14614008 - 06/14/11 07:36 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

thats what Im saying I was spraying too much I guess. Now Im waiting for them to dry up enough to pin hopefully.

Could have been that I didnt wait long enough to let them consolidate thoroughly.

That cant be right though because even one that I birthed last it had a pin growing on it already and than I dunked it. Maybe it was the dunk. One dunk I put in the fridge the other I just used water a little on the cooler side and let sit on the counter.

I believe its the conditions. Humidity could be good but not enough FAE altogether.


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Re: 1st BRF PF Golden Teacher Grow [Re: AcidOnTap]
    #14616284 - 06/15/11 08:24 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Well the B+ are doing fine and more seem to pop up all the time and I have about 20-30 that look good and growing and may actually make it to harvest.

Im trying to isolate the problem and figure out what the deal is to try to get these AA on top.

First I wanna ask to anyone with some exp. The puerto ricans have a

>>>>>>>>>>light coating of white which Im assuming is mycelium over the heads. Is this a product of too little FAE? could it be that I need more FAE and keep the humidity up like with a humidifier?

Could having them on the floor be a problem?  The light bulb in the closet could that be a problem? (cool white 20W fluorescent)

I think it would be easy for someone to pin point the problems Im having if it were easy enough to see the whole thing and looking at them. I need a SHROOM DOCTOR!!!!


Im doing some reading to answer my own questions still any IME would be good or just something simple that I could be missing may help me out real quick. This is my new full time j/hobby Im trying to get this right so I can advance a little.

And now that I have some growing what should I be doing to keep them growing if anything.


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Re: 1st BRF PF Golden Teacher Grow [Re: AcidOnTap]
    #14617151 - 06/15/11 12:06 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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>>>>>>>>>>light coating of white which Im assuming is mycelium over the heads. Is this a product of too little FAE? could it be that I need more FAE and keep the humidity up like with a humidifier?



i observed this in my mono bucket i tried . it is mycellum unless it exploed quickley. the only thing i could think it was FAE due to there was moisture on the sides without me misting.


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Re: 1st BRF PF Golden Teacher Grow [Re: lostinbq]
    #14618826 - 06/15/11 05:44 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I just checked on my cakes and one of them has 2 tiny little pins! Very exciting, hopefully the others will follow suit.


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Re: 1st BRF PF Golden Teacher Grow [Re: deannafelton]
    #14622444 - 06/16/11 12:39 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

after doing some reading there are a couple of things that I probably did wrong.

At first I didnt have the SGFC up off the ground. Also maybe not enough perlite. After getting a hygrometer the humidity is too low and the temp was probably too high.

My B+ are growing even better after spraying more and lowering the temp in the area with a LOT of fanning. I think I need a humidfier a large fan and a bullet for my head.

I cased the AA+ I have going and have it in the dark incubating to hopefully get something out of it and what I have so far to not have a total fail and give me some courage to push on and go forth with my new hobby.



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Re: 1st BRF PF Golden Teacher Grow [Re: AcidOnTap]
    #14622952 - 06/16/11 02:14 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

trial and error my friend. sounds like your project will pull through. :popcorn:


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Re: 1st BRF PF Golden Teacher Grow [Re: lostinbq]
    #14629502 - 06/17/11 06:13 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

ya thanks for hangin in there with me. I need to be better at this before my next batch which will be coming along shortly.

Im waiting for my AA to break the surface I think I caught it just in time for casing otherwise it would have gone to shit.

Its been 2 days I believe since I cased it so Ill give it some more time
but I snuck a peak and its lookin alive.

Also I want to know why the B+ are so thin maybe just from me screwing up or I dont know but I have a couple of the PR that are HUGE.

Im spore printing a B+ and Ill do the same for the gigantic PR that I have growing just waiting for it to mature its been in there for a while now.

As far as I know with having 12 cakes gone into this casing I have going the fruits should be on the gigantic size with the amount of substrate in this casing.

Comments concerns tips and what not to get this casing up off the ground would be much appreciated.

AOT


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Re: 1st BRF PF Golden Teacher Grow [Re: AcidOnTap]
    #14637424 - 06/19/11 11:41 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I didnt realize how wet %95-100 humidity really is without having a hygrometer.

: /  I have vaporizer in there fogging up the place now hopefully that will make all the difference.

I was way short on the perlite in that size of a FC.

Now the casing I have doesnt look like these with the mycelium breaking the surface does that come after patching and taking off the gas exchange barrier and letting light in and what not? Mine broke a little bit and i threw some verm on the spots which was really just pieces of mycelium that livened up after being in the container fora few days.
So all I see of the surface is verm as of now and lightly covered crumbles. On the sides where I can see it looks like the substrate is pretty healthy as far as I can tell. I guess it will have to pin down below and come up through the surface?

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Re: 1st BRF PF Golden Teacher Grow [Re: AcidOnTap]
    #14650871 - 06/21/11 09:12 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Well I just put my martha fruiting chamber together and its coming along well. Finally finished it seems.

Got heavy duty plastic 5 shelf unit. wrapped in plastic twice. cut a door in it.

Got the humidifier shooting in on the 3rd shelf flowing down and a little fan with a dryer hose strapped to it for FAE circulating. It is working wonders.

Once I put the fan in BOOM it all came together. Got to thank a few guys who put their projects up on shroomery for helping with getting the basic idea.

Its just about fully automated only have to refill the humidifier everyday which Im going to modify to hold more water and run for prolly a few days at a time. Cant wait to get some more puerto ricans in there.

It all together cost.......about $60 total though I got some things off craigs shit and had a few things.

SO  very proud of myself as far as I can tell everything is up to par and perfect conditions for the operation. I hope the fan is powerful enough I might have to get another one in there to be sure.

AOT


should produce a couple lbs(+) a month. BOO YAH!!!


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