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OfflineNature Boy
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Pharmahuasca - RIGHT NOW!
    #14259755 - 04/08/11 05:14 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

40 minutes into the largest dose ever, and whooo boy...can hardly type.  Thought I might be able to get out the specifics of the dose, etcetera...but I was wrong.

Gotta go.  See you in hyperspace.  Hope I have LOTS and LOTS of good fellow shroomerite company.

Love you all,  :peace:

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Holy f@#%$,,,color shifts are amazing.  DEF have to go.


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Re: Pharmahuasca - RIGHT NOW! [Re: Nature Boy]
    #14259781 - 04/08/11 05:22 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Hell yea bro!! sending good vibes your way!! I can't wait to here all about the experience once you've landed. :mushroom2::mushroom2::mushroom2::mushroom2::mushroom2:

Edited by kyguy (04/08/11 05:24 PM)

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Re: Pharmahuasca - RIGHT NOW! [Re: kyguy]
    #14259838 - 04/08/11 05:33 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Have fun, brother.  Oh, I hope you blast through and spend many blissful hours floating from thoughtcloud to thoughtcloud in hyperspace!  You're gonna figure it all out too, the meaning of this whole damn thing, you lucky bastard.  Write it down too so you don't forget it and let us know even though we won't really understand!


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Re: Pharmahuasca - RIGHT NOW! [Re: joemolloy]
    #14259862 - 04/08/11 05:37 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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joemolloy said:
Have fun, brother.  Oh, I hope you blast through and spend many blissful hours floating from thoughtcloud to thoughtcloud in hyperspace!  You're gonna figure it all out too, the meaning of this whole damn thing, you lucky bastard.  Write it down too so you don't forget it and let us know even though we won't really understand!




I think someone is jealous. Maybe I just read your post wrong, but I could almost feel the envy dripping off this post.


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Re: Pharmahuasca - RIGHT NOW! [Re: Nature Boy]
    #14259892 - 04/08/11 05:41 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Awesome have a great one!!!! your a really smart dude btw I have read alot of your post....:sunny::sunny::psychsplit::sunny::thumbup::headbanger::psychsplit:

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Re: Pharmahuasca - RIGHT NOW! [Re: Joolz]
    #14259896 - 04/08/11 05:42 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Jealous as hell!  Dripping with envy!  I know where he is going!  There's no place like it, no drug comes near a deep pharma trip.  Nothing has its immense power, fury, euphoria, and awesomeness.


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Re: Pharmahuasca - RIGHT NOW! [Re: FUTURIST]
    #14259903 - 04/08/11 05:43 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

See you on the otherside...


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Re: Pharmahuasca - RIGHT NOW! [Re: Joolz]
    #14259905 - 04/08/11 05:43 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Joolz said:
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joemolloy said:
Have fun, brother.  Oh, I hope you blast through and spend many blissful hours floating from thoughtcloud to thoughtcloud in hyperspace!  You're gonna figure it all out too, the meaning of this whole damn thing, you lucky bastard.  Write it down too so you don't forget it and let us know even though we won't really understand!




I think someone is jealous. Maybe I just read your post wrong, but I could almost feel the envy dripping off this post.




If you've read any of his posts before you'd realize he was just being sarcastic. He considers DMT to be complete bullshit.


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Re: Pharmahuasca - RIGHT NOW! [Re: joemolloy]
    #14259917 - 04/08/11 05:45 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Stop shitting on his thread.  The magical/mystical/spiritual interpretations are bullshit to me.  The experience is powerful and awesome.


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Re: Pharmahuasca - RIGHT NOW! [Re: joemolloy] * 1
    #14259932 - 04/08/11 05:47 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

joemolloy said:
Stop shitting on his thread.  The magical/mystical/spiritual interpretations are bullshit to me.  The experience is powerful and awesome.




Ok so then why do you consider DMT to be bullshit again?


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Re: Pharmahuasca - RIGHT NOW! [Re: muistrue]
    #14259951 - 04/08/11 05:52 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

FractalDust said:
Quote:

joemolloy said:
Stop shitting on his thread.  The magical/mystical/spiritual interpretations are bullshit to me.  The experience is powerful and awesome.




Ok so then why do you consider DMT to be bullshit again?




Because he went into it expecting to find a definite answer. He never learned that you find your own spirituality, and since he didn't find this crazy definite answer he was chasing, he considers spirituality bullshit.


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Re: Pharmahuasca - RIGHT NOW! [Re: muistrue]
    #14259952 - 04/08/11 05:52 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Since this is Nature Boy's thread, I will quote him to explain it.

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On DMT Is Bullshit ... I understood those words to represent JoeMalloy's position compressed and expressed in a rather brilliant "economy of words" best interpreted in conjunction with other and further things previously written by him on the subject




Any other discussion on this should be done by PM or in another thread.


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Re: Pharmahuasca - RIGHT NOW! [Re: muistrue]
    #14259954 - 04/08/11 05:53 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

FractalDust said:
Quote:

joemolloy said:
Stop shitting on his thread.  The magical/mystical/spiritual interpretations are bullshit to me.  The experience is powerful and awesome.




Ok so then why do you consider DMT to be bullshit again?




Hope Nature Boy has an awesome trip :smile: Good vibes, all!


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Re: Pharmahuasca - RIGHT NOW! [Re: healing]
    #14259989 - 04/08/11 05:59 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

People there was a good thread on this awhile ago I made. Fucking leave Joe alone. As long as no ones insulting each other just let peoples relationship with pychadelics be to each and there own. Have a great trip Nature Boy. Goooood vibes man.


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Re: Pharmahuasca - RIGHT NOW! [Re: AbstraKt_I_Am]
    #14260001 - 04/08/11 06:02 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Im jealousness.

Have a nice trip.


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Re: Pharmahuasca - RIGHT NOW! [Re: joemolloy]
    #14260861 - 04/08/11 09:50 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Wow...I'm well enough to type, though still physically shaky as hell.  Got the purge (downwards only) at exactly the three hour mark after about 10 minutes of intestinal burbles.  Luckily, that was the only body load issue, and it was over in less than 5 minutes and I was back to tripping and feeling good.

OK...now I can set it down a bit.  Kept to a meatless, alcohol-free diet for two days.  Fasted completely from lunch (1:00pm until 6:30pm) when I downed 60 drops of CaapiCopy in 30cc's water and 90mg DMT fumarate salt.  That's around 60 - 65mg of freebase equivalent.  The foregoing was taken all in one solution, swallowed in two foul (and I mean FOUL) tasting gulps.  Yuchhk...even the memory of the taste makes me shudder.

I was a bit surprised when, 30 or so minutes later, I had some modest confusion in logging on to the Shroomery to say hey to you all.  Without warning, the brightness of the monitor starting modulating between brighter and dimmer by about 25 - 30%.  Accompanying this was shifts in colors with a generally green overlay, but then THAT would shift suddenly to orange, and sometimes alternate OUT OF SYNCH with the dimming and brightening.  Then a third, simultaneous wavering started in, like a towel or sheet hung out in a breeze...all of these things doing their thing at their own frequency...and I had to log off and go lay down.

All the while the above was happening, I had Shpongle on my ITouch with ear buds. In order to navigate safely upstairs, I had to shut the music off...it was too disorienting.  That's when I noticed the weeee-ooooo-weeee-oooo of what I like to call the DMT music.

Safely in bed under covers, I shut all the lights and the visions began about 5 minutes after that.  Mostly indescribable, abstract stuff, occasional rooms or doors appeared, lots of momentary flickering dark silhouetted objects jumping left and right.

The air in the bedroom was colored a foggy pastel green.  I got the now familiar "stretched" bony Golum-like feeling of fingers of both hands, and my entire body subjectively felt about 9 or 10 feet long.  No floating or sense I'd leave my body, even in the dark.  I'd hoped for more "organic" type of visions, because they are easier to remember and to describe.  Not what happened, though.

I sensed the peak was at about 90 minutes in.  At one point I was absolutely was floored by the simple appearance of the amber IHome dock clock numerals which were reflected, upside down of course, in the polished top of my wife's triple dresser.  The numerals were amber, but the smeared, upside down reflection of the numerals were a rainbow of colors, which, of course, was overlaid with the green foggy air.  That may have been the open eye "sight of the night."  Amazing how a mundane thing can be turned into a miraculous sight like that!

All in all, pretty much over by 4.5 hours, but worth every minute.  All the planning and preparation paid off.

Ohh...and hey, you guys...try to lay off joemalloy!  Despite some folks taking exception to his views, he's a welcomed and excellent addition to almost any discussion.  He brings a much needed balance to what often seems one sided.  He IS a smart guy, and he's often not that far off base, as you may one day discover for yourself.

In closing, thanks for all the good vibes and well-wishing.  I'm ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN that it played a role in this evenings events.  Being granted the privilege of sharing these things with you all increases the value of the experience to me by at LEAST three-fold.

Love and respect to all,

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Edited by Nature Boy (04/08/11 09:55 PM)

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Re: Pharmahuasca - RIGHT NOW! [Re: Nature Boy]
    #14260948 - 04/08/11 10:13 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I'm glad it went well NB!

I had a few questions. Is making pharmahausca really as simple as ingesting Caapi and freebase DMT? Also are the effects like ayahausca? And what's some key differences between the brew and freebase?


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Re: Pharmahuasca - RIGHT NOW! [Re: AbstraKt_I_Am]
    #14261003 - 04/08/11 10:27 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I suppose it CAN be, but I have taken the time to convert  some of my freebase into the fumarate salt.  I think I posted a pictorial on doing that somewhere on this site.  The fumarate salt is stable - in fact, the MOST stable salt of DMT and it is a nice crunchy powder.  The salt form is also WAY easier on your acid stomach and intestines than the freeBASE.

Just to be clear, lets define terms:  Pharmahuasca is MAOI plus DMT, both of which have several potential sources/forms as opposed to Ayahuasca, which is traditionally Caapi predominantly, with a minor admixture of other botanicals, some of which may end up contributing DMT.

Although I have some Manske extracted harmala alkaloids from P. Harmala (Rue) seeds, and about a kilo of white caapi vine, I also have a large supply of CaapiCopy, so I just use that for now 'cause I'm lazy and it works.  Those are my three potential sources of MAOI.

I suggest you experiment and decide what is right for you.  The one experiment I HOPE you will skip is just eating Syrian Rue seeds.  If Rue is going to be your source of MAOI, PLEASE take the time to do a Manske extraction.  Get rid of all the uterotoxic and nausea - making compounds.  It SO easy.  Be kind to yourself!

Edit:  Just realized I missed one of your questions entirely.  Is pharma like Aya??  Mostly.  Doubt its exactly the same.  Even Aya is different each time, so whose to really say?  Not me, that's for sure.  I am NOT an expert on the differences.  I have never had "genuine" Ayahuasca prepared by a South American shaman.

Best,

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Re: Pharmahuasca - RIGHT NOW! [Re: Nature Boy]
    #14263063 - 04/09/11 01:05 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I thought you didn't have to stay away from meat for Pharmahuasca?

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Re: Pharmahuasca - RIGHT NOW! [Re: FUTURIST]
    #14263151 - 04/09/11 01:36 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

You don't have to.  My choice.  Just sayin' what I did.  Its not obligatory.

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