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Spent cake tea
    #14257992 - 04/08/11 11:04 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

So after doing loads of reasearch last night I found the community was split on Spent Cake tea.

Some say "waist of time dont do it"  Some said "it would make you really sick".  And I was really blow away by the large number of people claiming it didnt work.

Well luckily there are those of you that tried it and it did work for them so I gave it a shot.

I took two spent cakes that didn't flush a 3rd flush I got the spores from a non sponsored vendor(never again).  But anyways I have to make room for 12 more cakes so I decided these guys are done and they have to go. 

I choped them up in very small chunks boiled the water set it on low and waited for the boil to slow down.  I then added the mussies stired frequently and lightly simmered for 10 minutes.

I added tea bags and let it sit off the heat for another 5 minutes.  I then separated all the crap out with a coffee filter, way too much work(I am talking about 15minutes tea was ice cold by the time I was done) I am going to get cheesecloth next time.

I drank it and waited thinking it wouldn't work, well about a hour later I was definitely feeling something.  I didn't think it would be strong or anything but boy was I wrong.  I ended up having a really nice level two trip and it was totally worth it I also smoked really dank buds along side.  But I drank tea at 9:30 started to feel it faintly around 10:15 and by 10:45 I was starting to peak.  I peaked for a few hours and never really came down.  I ended up going to bed around two after just feeling so happy and I still feel that way.

So any of you that claimed it didn't work especially the people that said they used like 5 cakes and felt nothing.  You either trip too often, have way too high of a natural tolerance, or you fucked it up.  Because it works it didn't taste bad at all tasted like tea, and my stomach felt fine.
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Re: Spent cake tea [Re: ChronicSmoke]
    #14258027 - 04/08/11 11:11 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I also spilled a bunch of tea when I was filtering it maybe 1/4 of the whole drink what a bummer I might have tripped even harder.


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Re: Spent cake tea [Re: ChronicSmoke]
    #14258300 - 04/08/11 12:18 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

nice, i did a tea with about 5 cakes or something like that and i got a nice body buzz split between 2 people. nothing crazy but yeah.. theres not alot of psilocybin in them so its not really worth it unless you made a massive amount with lots of cakes and boiled it down or somethin idk


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Re: Spent cake tea [Re: Ghostwriter]
    #14258339 - 04/08/11 12:28 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Must be genetics, man. I tried this twice and it either didnt work, or  got 1 - 1.5 gram equivalent. Not all cakes are equal?


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Re: Spent cake tea [Re: mukhail]
    #14258346 - 04/08/11 12:29 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

yeah id say my dose was about equivelent to about maybe 1 gram if that


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Re: Spent cake tea [Re: Ghostwriter]
    #14258457 - 04/08/11 12:52 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I've always heard that spent cake tea came on fast (just like regular shroomie tea) but it was weak unless you just used a crazy amount of cakes. I'm probably going to do this with my spent cakes, but I also want to eat an eighth or so next to it to make sure I get a nice trip. I don't like mild trips at my young age. I'm all about the brain frying atm. :hehehe::raveface:


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Re: Spent cake tea [Re: Joolz]
    #14258473 - 04/08/11 12:56 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I tried spent cake tea once and I really didn't feel anything at all. Maybe some minor threshold effects. I can't remember how I did it, it was such a long time ago.

I'm glad it worked for you though!


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Re: Spent cake tea [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
    #14258540 - 04/08/11 01:18 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

:puke:

..I'd rather throw those cakes outside in a compost pile and have a chance at getting more fruits than to drink that.


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Re: Spent cake tea [Re: Cynosure]
    #14259242 - 04/08/11 03:36 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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:puke:

..I'd rather throw those cakes outside in a compost pile and have a chance at getting more fruits than to drink that.



It tasted like tea, and weather isn't good for outdoor mushies where I am.


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Re: Spent cake tea [Re: ChronicSmoke]
    #14259248 - 04/08/11 03:37 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I also have a pretty low tolerance but still I was really buzzed.


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Re: Spent cake tea [Re: ChronicSmoke]
    #14259361 - 04/08/11 03:57 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Wow, spent cake tea....
what will you inventive heads think up next?


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Re: Spent cake tea [Re: shroomie_glen]
    #14259808 - 04/08/11 05:29 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Wow, spent cake tea....
what will you inventive heads think up next?




I dont follow.


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Re: Spent cake tea [Re: ChronicSmoke]
    #14259864 - 04/08/11 05:37 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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ChronicSmoke said:
Quote:

shroomie_glen said:
Wow, spent cake tea....
what will you inventive heads think up next?




I dont follow.



I was simply saying that is a pretty ingenius way to extract any remaining psilly from something that i wouldn't have ever considered usable.
Just a compliment of sorts on how resourceful people can be.... the term "heads" is just referring to colleagues sharing our hobby.


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Re: Spent cake tea [Re: shroomie_glen]
    #14259887 - 04/08/11 05:41 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

shroomie_glen said:
Quote:

ChronicSmoke said:
Quote:

shroomie_glen said:
Wow, spent cake tea....
what will you inventive heads think up next?




I dont follow.



I was simply saying that is a pretty ingenius way to extract any remaining psilly from something that i wouldn't have ever considered usable.
Just a compliment of sorts on how resourceful people can be.... the term "heads" is just referring to colleagues sharing our hobby.




Gotta squeeze every last drop of that amazing substance. :raveface:


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Re: Spent cake tea [Re: Joolz]
    #14259985 - 04/08/11 05:57 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I was very happy about it, I was about to just toss them in the trash but instead I got a nice trip out of it.  I will always make tea from spent cakes, IMO it felt like a 1g trip so its like throwing away a gram of mushrooms.

Yea I wanted to make sure I let everyone know it worked for me because alot of the community said it didn't.  Thanks for the "heads" explanation had no clue.

Thankfully someone was brave enough to try it because it was gross making it but I was shocked by the taste it wasn't bad at all.  I chugged it down and cant wait till next time I am going to eat some mushies to increase the potency of the trip.


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Re: Spent cake tea [Re: ChronicSmoke]
    #14260064 - 04/08/11 06:18 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I thought mycelium didnt contain any psilos, only the fruits.
Did you notice any pupil dilation? Thats really the best way to see if its active.


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Re: Spent cake tea [Re: Kaiser]
    #14260140 - 04/08/11 06:34 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Did you notice any pupil dilation? Thats really the best way to see if its active.




You mean it's easier to tell if it will make you trip by looking at a persons eyes than if it makes you trip?


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Re: Spent cake tea [Re: Kaiser]
    #14260145 - 04/08/11 06:36 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I thought mycelium didnt contain any psilos, only the fruits.
Did you notice any pupil dilation? Thats really the best way to see if its active.



My pupils were dilated but I was also smoking weed.  I didn't see objects shifting, waving or reaching out to me like I normally do when taking actually mushrooms.  But the high was so different I was laughing had some really great thinking, I went outside to smoke a bowl everything just seemed weird and looked very strange I ended up freaking out and rushing back downstairs.  But man it was a great time, definitely going to do it again.


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Re: Spent cake tea [Re: ChronicSmoke]
    #14260164 - 04/08/11 06:39 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I didn't want to move at times I was just melting into my couch, crazy body high it was nice because I was almost able to separate the highs from mushrooms and really appreciate just the body high part(psilocybin) even though I did have CEV and some OEV's like smokeyness and really bright colors.  But no crazy moving stuff and thats what I live for.


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Re: Spent cake tea [Re: ChronicSmoke]
    #14260183 - 04/08/11 06:44 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Spent cake tea from what I heard has always felt like a low dose of shrooms. You just get the body high and a little giggly, but generally not any visuals. Just like if you took a gram or two of some cubes.


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Re: Spent cake tea [Re: Joolz]
    #14262379 - 04/09/11 09:59 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Spent cake tea from what I heard has always felt like a low dose of shrooms. You just get the body high and a little giggly, but generally not any visuals. Just like if you took a gram or two of some cubes.



pretty much. I made tea from a spent popcorn casing in high school and it was definitely active but mild. Mild visuals, giddyness, enhancement of color but not much else.


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Re: Spent cake tea [Re: ChronicSmoke]
    #16359663 - 06/10/12 05:14 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Yikes sounds gross I would hate to think that but please


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Re: Spent cake tea [Re: lavablitz]
    #26192809 - 09/16/19 09:18 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

I am necroing old threads relevant to the topic of mycelium grown on soft agar as a rapid means of psilo production because I believe to be a largely unknown and unexplored yet still very relevant topic for discussion and experimentation. I note that many are ignorantly opposed to concept, wishing to not face displeasing consequences of my necromancy, if any mods have problem, tell me and I'll stop.

Hi all :smile:
I have never been an active member here or of the DMT nexus, occasional long time lurker. These threads referenced can be found at the bottom of the post.

I not long ago I found an old post of an older tek that had been long forgotten and thought to be bunk due to a reportedly terrible translation.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7680529

The Brack and Kobel method of psilocybin production.

The claim is that mycelium in some mushrooms (maybe not pan cyans, as one member showed a law enforcement study of pan cyans that tested no psilocybin prior to pinning, though consuming pre-fruited mycelium of Cubes anecdotally produces effect) is active, and it's speed of growth makes it a viable option for rapid actives production. The mistranslation is generally interpreted as myc grown in LC.
However, LC myc catabolises it's actives very quickly at exactly the one week mark and requires close and difficult (complex, apparatus for testing) monitering to be harvested in the small optimal window. The other common mis-interpretation is to grow on hard agar. This results in myc that is unable to penetrate the surface, thereby providing too thin a layer of myc, low yields.

The solution posed is that agar mixed to 1/10th the dilution of hard agar allows for mycelial penetration. and one ought to harvest once the myc has carpeted the surface.

Reportedly effectively done by Brack and Kobel whilst working for sandoz in the 50s, also effectively used to grow sclerotia and fruit from this substrate. The sclerotia is extremely clean and easily harvested, and the agar is rightly priced if using it at 1/10th regular dilution.

The corrected translation of the tek recieved very little interest, admittedly the title and body of text is offputtingly dense in the old post.

I am curious to see if this is a viable tek for producing actives at 6x the speed. (So much more in the fruit, I realise, still I see potential benefit here, grow bulk then and extract to another medium if eating heaps of myc is unappealing, the tek also mentions an extraction tek (I know fast degradation, make some agar jellies with it or mix it with some other protective medium, add flavours too :smile: )

I tried to revive the old thread to little avail. Then I tried making a post in the cultivation thread, mixed responses. A lot of ill will toward the concept. A good point was made by footpath; "Just about everyone knocks what they don't try and don't even take time to read anything legitimate about. They mainly just proliferate speculative rumors from the populous. Ultimately, I am 99% certain that 99% of the people here Do Not have the means to produce anything beyond anecdotal evidence. And that, most of the time, they don't even bother to create that."

Now, please, forgive my arrogance for making three posts on the same topic and necroing an 11 year old thread about an abandoned tek from the 50s. I am curious, and see potential benefit to the community at large, perhaps the advanced crowd will be more likely to share in my curiosity.

I will also post this to the DMT nexus.

I am a noob. I know nothing. I am in process of growing my first PF jars. I have no experience with agar. I am a student on government assistance who has just been kicked out of home and am shortly to live in a tent in the backyard of my law abiding Aunt. My pf jars have had to be moved to another location 3 hours from my Aunts. There will be renovations there in a months time for a month and a half. My jars will have to be spawned to completely autonomous bulk monotubs on my first grow.

I am an avid reader and have a lot of curiosity, that is just about all that is going for me as a cultivator.

If anyone feels any curiosity toward such a beautiful tek, a week, a little agar and some curiosity is the minimum requirements for some results. I believe that others may have favourable conditions, supplies and skills for such experimentation earlier than I will be able to.

Have a go if you will and tell us all how you go :smile:

Look at this, promising anecdotal reports regarding growing strong, active azurescens mycelial mats on agar. Easier than sclerotia even and better substrate for sclerotia too.
https://www.shroomery.or...hp/Cat/0/Number/7789758

Spent cake tea, effective -
https://www.shroomery.or...umber/14257992#14257992

Eating cakes and mushroom stem bases on surface of cakes -
https://www.shroomery.or...umber/14992441#14992441

Mycelium extraction teks -
https://www.shroomery.or...hp/Number/539138#539138

https://www.shroomery.or.../Number/4387553#4387553

General cultivation shroomery thread -
https://www.shroomery.or...r/26191459/fpart/1/vc/1

Advanced cultivation thread -
https://www.shroomery.or...lat.php/Number/26192695

Law enforcement study on what stage of Pan cyan myc contains actives, with pan cyans they found that it isn't until pinning, note, I've heard reports of other species that contain notable actives prior to pinning and this is the only source I found to say this about pan cyan, we trust cops right haha-
http://www.fanaticus.com/forensic.htm

The old post on the supposedly correctly translated Brack and Kobel method -
https://www.shroomery.or...wflat.php/Number/7680529


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Re: Spent cake tea [Re: ChronicSmoke]
    #26193026 - 09/16/19 09:18 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

This thread has been closed.

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