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OfflineGreenvalley
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Why are americans doing the least?
    #14257975 - 04/08/11 10:59 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Out of everything that is going on in the world, why are the American People doing the least? Why is it that any other country will stand up aganst their rouge government and americans wont? are we really in some upside down brainwashing, Orwellian, brave new world?
The people have had NO say in anything that has happened in the government for at least the past 10 years. How does this fucking happen? this is so twisted!
Are people really satisfied with the way things are? and if not why wont they/we do anything? What is that threshold at which people will say enough is enough?

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Re: Why are americans doing the least? [Re: Greenvalley]
    #14258012 - 04/08/11 11:09 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

cause we prefer kicking it old school and chillin'. we'd have to like... get up and act sober to do anything "important" or "proactive".....

duh

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Re: Why are americans doing the least? [Re: Greenvalley]
    #14258124 - 04/08/11 11:38 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I'm extremely satisfied and I will gladly shoot anybody myself who tries to fuck with it.


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Re: Why are americans doing the least? [Re: stranger_danger]
    #14258198 - 04/08/11 11:57 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

The wealthy have learned well from the past. All you have to do is feed and house the poor and they will never rise against you. Why would you complain when you are taken care of so well?

The last remaining task for the wealthy is to give the poor back their drugs. Then they would be satisfied and out of the way entirely. Of course this causes a problem with workers being able to afford the drugs they want and thus not working as hard to get them. Also, you then have the problem of not being able to generate second class citizens with the prison system because people would need to commit actual crimes before losing their rights.

I have no solutions but I do know if I was wealthy I would invest heavily in the welfare of my workers, so that I would be left to my own devices, and they would never rise up.

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Re: Why are americans doing the least? [Re: EdgeChaos]
    #14258331 - 04/08/11 12:26 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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EdgeChaos said:
All you have to do is feed and house the poor and they will never rise against you. Why would you complain when you are taken care of so well?





You know, its funny, thats just what the government has been saying for years.

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Re: Why are americans doing the least? [Re: EdgeChaos]
    #14258792 - 04/08/11 02:16 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

i think a lot of it has to do with nature of what it means to be "an american". It's a young country made up of immigrants in an economic system that operates on the basic premise of "greed is good, greed is god".

the U.S. has always been a divided nation and in reality the U.S. is made up of 50 little countries that we like to make believe are "united states". Americans have truly only been "united" when fighting against a common "enemy". First it was the Brits, then the Native Americans, then the Mexicans, then each other, then the world, then the world again, then, well, you get the point.

We have no real common culture to speak of (unless you see being fat and lazy as a common culture). We've barely any shared history as most of us immigrated here less than a hundred years ago.


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Re: Why are americans doing the least? [Re: gerryjarcia] * 1
    #14259027 - 04/08/11 03:01 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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gerryjarcia said:
i think a lot of it has to do with nature of what it means to be "an american". It's a young country made up of immigrants in an economic system that operates on the basic premise of "greed is good, greed is god".




Who is more greedy?  The person who just wants to keep what he worked for or the person who wants somebody else to pay for what they want?
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the U.S. has always been a divided nation and in reality the U.S. is made up of 50 little countries that we like to make believe are "united states". Americans have truly only been "united" when fighting against a common "enemy". First it was the Brits, then the Native Americans, then the Mexicans, then each other, then the world, then the world again, then, well, you get the point.




That was the original idea but it has kind of been shot all to hell.
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We have no real common culture to speak of (unless you see being fat and lazy as a common culture). We've barely any shared history as most of us immigrated here less than a hundred years ago.




Americans are lazy compared to whom?  The Eurobums?:rofl2:


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Re: Why are americans doing the least? [Re: Greenvalley]
    #14259078 - 04/08/11 03:09 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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Greenvalley said:
Are people really satisfied with the way things are?




Yes, and they should be.  Things are very good here in the US, and to think otherwise shows a glaring ignorance and lack of perspective.

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Re: Why are americans doing the least? [Re: DieCommie]
    #14259471 - 04/08/11 04:20 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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DieCommie said:
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Greenvalley said:
Are people really satisfied with the way things are?




Yes, and they should be.  Things are very good here in the US, and to think otherwise shows a glaring ignorance and lack of perspective.



Yes we do live comfortably and with material luxary; but is that really a good thing? is that all that matters to us?

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Re: Why are americans doing the least? [Re: Greenvalley]
    #14259511 - 04/08/11 04:27 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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Yes we do live comfortably and with material luxary; but is that really a good thing? is that all that matters to us?




To some people it is.  To others, they choose to live a different lifestyle.  The reason things are great in the US is you have the choice to pursue either.  Its all up to you.

Personally, Im not gonna work my ass off for the rest of my life for excess material luxury.  Fortunately I live in a country where I have that option.

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Re: Why are americans doing the least? [Re: DieCommie]
    #14259571 - 04/08/11 04:37 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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DieCommie said:
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Yes we do live comfortably and with material luxary; but is that really a good thing? is that all that matters to us?




To some people it is.  To others, they choose to live a different lifestyle.  The reason things are great in the US is you have the choice to pursue either.  Its all up to you.

Personally, Im not gonna work my ass off for the rest of my life for excess material luxury.  Fortunately I live in a country where I have that option.




right, because all other first world nations choose your lifestyle for you the second you are born :feelssarcasticman: america is the home of FREEDOM. it loved this country so much it made it's home here.

i love hearing ignorant, small minded americans spew on about how this country is so great. only someone with extreme insecurities (i.e. most americans) has to defend a land mass :doublefacepalm:

the u.s. is just like any other country, there is nothing exceptional about it. it has things that suck and things that are great. in the end, any country you live in will have it's pros and cons.


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Re: Why are americans doing the least? [Re: gerryjarcia]
    #14259598 - 04/08/11 04:43 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Do you have a point, or are you just ranting?

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Re: Why are americans doing the least? [Re: DieCommie]
    #14259608 - 04/08/11 04:44 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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DieCommie said:
Do you have a point, or are you just ranting?




just ranting. isn't that what politics is all about?


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Re: Why are americans doing the least? [Re: DieCommie]
    #14259747 - 04/08/11 05:13 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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DieCommie said:
Do you have a point, or are you just ranting?



Just ranting but your guys responses have really given me something to think about :thanx:

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Re: Why are americans doing the least? [Re: Greenvalley]
    #14259876 - 04/08/11 05:39 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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Greenvalley said:
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DieCommie said:
Do you have a point, or are you just ranting?



Just ranting but your guys responses have really given me something to think about :thanx:




glad we could help :fasted:


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Re: Why are americans doing the least? [Re: Greenvalley]
    #14260205 - 04/08/11 06:49 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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Greenvalley said:
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DieCommie said:
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Greenvalley said:
Are people really satisfied with the way things are?




Yes, and they should be.  Things are very good here in the US, and to think otherwise shows a glaring ignorance and lack of perspective.



Yes we do live comfortably and with material luxary; but is that really a good thing? is that all that matters to us?



Feel free to do "the better thing" and live without if you want.  I assume that will be your last post.


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Re: Why are americans doing the least? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14260549 - 04/08/11 08:25 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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zappaisgod said:
Feel free to do "the better thing" and live without if you want.  I assume that will be your last post.




you spew with the vitriol of a fundamentalist, Zappa. why so keyed up?


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Re: Why are americans doing the least? [Re: gerryjarcia]
    #14260668 - 04/08/11 08:56 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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gerryjarcia said:
i think a lot of it has to do with nature of what it means to be "an american". It's a young country made up of immigrants in an economic system that operates on the basic premise of "greed is good, greed is god".

the U.S. has always been a divided nation and in reality the U.S. is made up of 50 little countries that we like to make believe are "united states". Americans have truly only been "united" when fighting against a common "enemy". First it was the Brits, then the Native Americans, then the Mexicans, then each other, then the world, then the world again, then, well, you get the point.

We have no real common culture to speak of (unless you see being fat and lazy as a common culture). We've barely any shared history as most of us immigrated here less than a hundred years ago.




My friend I need to clarify some points:

This country is one of the oldest in the world, considering it hasn't had a revolution in hundreds of years.

The federal government sets the standard for all the states, and the state cooperate to a degree that if you commit a crime in one - they'll arrest you in another. In another country the process of extradition is not nearly as cut and dry. This is a single country with very minor regional differences.

Last point, this country has a very rich culture. Americans spawned the wild west, beat generation, bebop, swing, blues, much of the 60's counter culture and much more. America has a very rich culture, unfortunately corporations have exploited it to the point where few remember. God I love what this country used to be, it used to be great.


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Re: Why are americans doing the least? [Re: ahchela]
    #14260676 - 04/08/11 09:00 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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America has a very rich culture, unfortunately corporations have exploited it to the point where few remember.




Thats bullshit.  The politically correct try to deny us our culture, but we have it nonetheless.  Its alive, its vibrant and its envied across the globe.

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Re: Why are americans doing the least? [Re: Greenvalley]
    #14260754 - 04/08/11 09:18 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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Greenvalley said:
Out of everything that is going on in the world, why are the American People doing the least? Why is it that any other country will stand up aganst their rouge government and americans wont? are we really in some upside down brainwashing, Orwellian, brave new world?
The people have had NO say in anything that has happened in the government for at least the past 10 years. How does this fucking happen? this is so twisted!
Are people really satisfied with the way things are? and if not why wont they/we do anything? What is that threshold at which people will say enough is enough?





until global unrest begins to affect our own society, us Americans probably won't care enough to do anything. most of us are generally too stupid to realize any of it anyways.


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