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I am the Walrus
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Needle dripping like crazy... and stuck lids.
#14257376 - 04/08/11 07:57 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ok, last night I was doing my 4th attempt... first attempt with sponsered spores though, so I have much higher hopes this time. Anyway, previously I had cheap needles and was really loading up the jars. Basically I was using one of these cheap needles per jar... now I know that 1 needle can be used to knock up a lot of jars. I was doing 8 jars, but I think that should technically be possible to do that with a single needle. I know I should re-flame between jars, at least every 3 jars or so.
Anyway, last night was my first attempt to shoot just a tiny bit into each cause I was trying to spread it out amongst all 8 jars. So I tried, but as soon as I put a tiny bit in 1 hole in 1 jar... the needle was dripping like crazy and was falling all over the lid as I tried to move to the next hole. This was probably happening before but I thought nothing of it since I wasn't trying to spread it thinner with quality spores. So it turned out I couldn't shoot so little into these jars to do them all with 1 needle. I think that I got about 4 with the good needle, and then I used one of my cheap needles on the other 4. I'm wondering if there is some technique to spread it that thin or maybe I shouldn't have tried to spread THAT thin? How many needles would you guys use to knock up 8 jars and how would you do it without pressing the plunger too much too fast? Before I reached the 5th jar it was long empty.
Another problem I had last night I'll mention too... I had used 1/2 pint mason jars with 4 holes poked in the lid, then another non-punctured lid on top of that, screwed the mason jar ring on top to hold both. I also put a bit of tape on the bottom lid so that it wouldn't pull off when I pulled the top lid off... that worked fine prior to sterilazation, but it didn't even occur to me until last night that both those suckas were like glued on with the vaccuum seal type effect that mason jars are supposed to create (I mean after I sterilized the jars, the mason jars did what mason jars do... seal). Anyway, I think of the 8 jars, only 2 was I able to remove the top lid without also pulling off the bottom lid and exposing the substrate. I was using an inoculation chamber and I tried to seperate them quickly and get the bottom lid back on... but this was a real bitch and something that was unexpected for me since previously I used drinking glasses + alluminum foil. So before I didn't have to worry about these lids stickying together. Should I have used a single lid with 4 holes and then alluminum foil on top of that? Please any advice?
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weilii-coyote


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Re: Needle dripping like crazy... and stuck lids. [Re: I am the Walrus]
#14257430 - 04/08/11 08:17 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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My advice- re-read the PF tek and follow it to the letter. You don't need the extra jar lid with no holes. The verm barrier will keep contaminants out. Also, 1cc per jar is enough spore solution, .25cc per hole, 10 jars per syringe
Edited by weilii-coyote (04/08/11 08:19 AM)
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I am the Walrus
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Re: Needle dripping like crazy... and stuck lids. [Re: weilii-coyote]
#14257667 - 04/08/11 09:44 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Alright, right on... RTFM again, lol. You're right. I've read 5 different PF Tek tutorials, and somehow it never occured to my dumb ass to read the one here on the shroomery. Didn't order from sponsers at first and ended up with crap... Now I did, but didn't bother to use the tutorial here on this site. I'm wondering what the hell I was thinking since this is obviously the place to be for this shit.
So from what you say about the verm barrier, maybe it'll still be ok even though the lids were totally off the jars for a few seconds. Either way I guess it's time to fire up another batch. I gotta get this shit working soon, I'm fuckin dying here without a trip.
Edited by I am the Walrus (04/08/11 09:47 AM)
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