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The Morning Glory of Morning Glory: Entheogenic Nootropics * 1
    #14257283 - 04/08/11 07:06 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I recall reading on Erowid that Aztec shamans would take as little as ~50 seeds to reach a desired effect with Morning Glory seeds. Upon testing this on many mornings (5AM, ingest 3g/2 seed packets of chewed Morning Glories) and taking note of the effects as they transpired during my normal everyday routine (2 hour long trip to school, leave my house at 7AM so 4 hours will pass until I arrive at school, a good amount of time to observe the effects unfold. A bowl of cannabis was also had 1hour after ingestion.

They are indeed active at such a low dose. In fact, there are times when my 3g trips are better than my 10-18g trips. It feels as though a direct pathway to Source/Higher Self is opened up and I will receive many bursts of information/data/things which allow me to complete certain puzzles in my life throughout the day. They tend to be my most deep, introspective trips at these doses. I am beginning to understand the true power of the seeds.


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Re: The Morning Glory of Morning Glory: Entheogenic Nootropics [Re: sunset_mission]
    #14257314 - 04/08/11 07:17 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Have you tried consuming the seeds without diluting the experience with cannabis ? If you have a little patience it would pay off . What I have done in the past is ground them made a tea and then sprinkled the ground seeds on a muffin and really enjoyed a Saturday morning. Waste not want not.


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Re: The Morning Glory of Morning Glory: Entheogenic Nootropics [Re: fuzzy wuzzy]
    #14257508 - 04/08/11 08:57 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Welcome to the Shroomery, friend. :ghandi:

Yes, I have taken the seeds without the aid of cannabis. I would not necessarily call it "diluting the experience" as I have a good relationship with both of these plant teachers and mixing them results in an excellent synergy which emphasizes and amplifies the effects of both of them greatly.

I will point out that math in lysergic-altered senses is a blessing... I am suddenly able to understand and work my way effortlessly through topics which have given me headaches for weeks whenever I attend math class on a low LSA dose and I am better able to understand everything!

Oh how I wish I knew about Morning Glories back in Jr. High - High School :lol: They manage to teach me better than my flesh and blood professors. :psychsplit:


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Re: The Morning Glory of Morning Glory: Entheogenic Nootropics [Re: sunset_mission]
    #14257676 - 04/08/11 09:45 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

:lol:

I do enjoy low doses of both Morning Glory and Woodrose.  I tend to treat them like I do smoking cannabis, I just sit in the dark and think about things.  More often than not, I come out of the experience with many new perspectives on a certain project I'm working on in my life, creative ideas to put to work, and lucid dreams (as I dose 4-5 hours before bed).  I don't dose like this very often (maybe once a month when I need a creative boost or to work through a creative problem). 

I'm sure you can figure out that math without the aid of the seed! :thumbup:


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Re: The Morning Glory of Morning Glory: Entheogenic Nootropics [Re: Cynosure]
    #14257776 - 04/08/11 10:09 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Of course! Whenever I understand a topic on LSA I usually do not need to dose and analyze it again as I will already retain the knowledge that I come to when I am in that headspace.

The benefits on my sober life have been astronomical. It almost feels like I am temporarily imbued with my Higher Self for that entire day. It also assists me in channeling (music, ideas) and generally tapping into some pool of knowledge.

I wonder what long-term benefits a year-long regiment of spaced out nootropical MG doses would create?


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Re: The Morning Glory of Morning Glory: Entheogenic Nootropics [Re: sunset_mission]
    #14257800 - 04/08/11 10:15 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

How "spaced out"? 

I'm assuming spaced out monthly or bi-weekly could be beneficial.  I'd guess that any more of that would create a sort of dependence and hinder your sober creative ability until you dosed again.

Also, if you're going to try this, be sure to report the negative effects!


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Re: The Morning Glory of Morning Glory: Entheogenic Nootropics [Re: Cynosure]
    #14258304 - 04/08/11 12:19 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

something about the  LSA does not mix well with cannabis for myself  to me it feels too heavy ....try grinding the seeds and mixing in luke warm water till it's cool  (1 cup water) and get it down in one drink you can strain or not just preference but that is the best tasting way for me and thank you for the warm welcome


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Re: The Morning Glory of Morning Glory: Entheogenic Nootropics [Re: Cynosure]
    #14258393 - 04/08/11 12:38 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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How "spaced out"? 

I'm assuming spaced out monthly or bi-weekly could be beneficial.  I'd guess that any more of that would create a sort of dependence and hinder your sober creative ability until you dosed again.

Also, if you're going to try this, be sure to report the negative effects!




I'd say about 3-5 times a month sits well with me.

I would report negative effects (and I have tried to look for any) but honestly I've found none :shrug: Remember, I've been doing LSA for a few years and this year I'm being even stricter with my usage of it. I experienced no negative long or short term effects from prolonged usage of 3-5 times a week from years ago so I have deemed it reasonable to use to a lesser extent weekly or biweekly. Plus my usage is usually limited to the Spring season.

There is a reason I speak so zealously of these powerful seeds. They also seem to play a role in increasing synchronicities in my day (especially while on them), but I would also attribute that from my prior Ayahuasca experiences as well.


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Re: The Morning Glory of Morning Glory: Entheogenic Nootropics [Re: sunset_mission]
    #14258437 - 04/08/11 12:48 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I have all these seeds but no herb. :thumbdown: You're making me jealous that I can't experience how awesome these things are.


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Re: The Morning Glory of Morning Glory: Entheogenic Nootropics [Re: sunset_mission]
    #14258465 - 04/08/11 12:54 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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(2 hour long trip to school, leave my house at 7AM so 4 hours will pass until I arrive at school,



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Re: The Morning Glory of Morning Glory: Entheogenic Nootropics [Re: Glayvin]
    #14258546 - 04/08/11 01:20 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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(2 hour long trip to school, leave my house at 7AM so 4 hours will pass until I arrive at school,



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Re: The Morning Glory of Morning Glory: Entheogenic Nootropics [Re: Cynosure]
    #14258588 - 04/08/11 01:35 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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(2 hour long trip to school, leave my house at 7AM so 4 hours will pass until I arrive at school,



huh




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I wake up at 5AM. Ingest the seeds at 5:05. Leave my house at 7AM, get to school by 9AM.

4 hours.

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Re: The Morning Glory of Morning Glory: Entheogenic Nootropics [Re: Joolz]
    #14258611 - 04/08/11 01:41 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I have all these seeds but no herb. :thumbdown: You're making me jealous that I can't experience how awesome these things are.




Want me to snail-mail you some ganj? :smilingpuppy:

I would honestly go as far as say that there is divinity in these seeds (or at least, it allows one to greater perceive and realize the Chekinah).

Another funny thing is that, everytime I dose MG's... and look at the sky, ALWAYS, the Sun is obscured enough by clouds that I am able to look into the sky and gaze at this luminescent eye protruding from the clouds. In my mind I don't see "the Sun". I see "the eye of the Universe/Creator". Without fail, I am always able to look at the Sun (at least for several moments more than normal) and not be harmed. I will also close my eyes and meditate on my Third Eye Chakra and visualize a link between my Third Eye and the Sun... indescribable and utterly amazing.

Really... really beautiful experience that I'm thankful to have had. I can now perceive the divinity contained within trees, squirrels, birds, a gentle breeze, fellow human beings, and ultimately contained in everything thanks to these seeds. Mind you, I am able to have these experiences consistently and on ANY dose of Morning Glories.

I also led a nice hour long discussion regarding Plato (and his work Allegory of the Cave), Yin&Yang/Duality, the nature of reality and other things in my English class today with a much better organization and structure to my thoughts. My professor was :wowz: Thank you MG :bunnyhug:

Man I can't wait for Philosophy class + LSA next term... :aum::datass::awecid:


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Re: The Morning Glory of Morning Glory: Entheogenic Nootropics [Re: sunset_mission]
    #14259230 - 04/08/11 03:35 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I've had several Morning Glory seeds trips throughout the years, the last probably being about 4 years ago. Recently I bought some in Pathmark (6-7 packets) and intend to wash them thoroughly. The most I've ever done in one sitting was 10gs and had a really bad trip (too much glassy eye and body nausea most likely due to not washing them good). Definitely very trippy and good with music in general though. But I don't understand how you are bale to walk around so much while on them. In my experience the pins and needles in the legs becomes difficult to travel while I'm on them.

I'll definitely try a smaller 3g dose, not looking to get spacedout, just want the touch of the hand of lady morning. Usually my dose would be around 5-8 grams.


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Re: The Morning Glory of Morning Glory: Entheogenic Nootropics [Re: soakked]
    #14262644 - 04/09/11 11:09 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

It makes me :sad: when people have negative experiences/get turned away from them predominately because of the body load/nausea. I almost swore away from these seeds because of that reason but then I just took every precautionary measure I could.

- Quick rinse with soap/detergent and water for 30 seconds-1 minute than towel drying the seeds

- Empty stomach, maybe a light light snack (a cracker or 2) to help

- One Benadryl 45 minutes prior

- A small hit of weed from a pipe/one-hitter, or a half-packed bowl an hour after eating. Be warned, you'd have to take small, slow-roasted hits for the first 4-5 hits as I HAVE vomited a few occasions from smoking a joint with friends after dosing MG's in the past (though, I did not wash the seeds or do any other precaution)

- Stay still when you feel those nauseous pangs. Breath control helps TREMENDOUSLY!!!!!!

Try the 3g dose, but definitely do some quality toking as well. The slight anxiety I get from weed is completely non-existant and music euphoria is amaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaazinggggg.... :raver2::rockon::trippinballs:


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Re: The Morning Glory of Morning Glory: Entheogenic Nootropics [Re: sunset_mission]
    #14281512 - 04/12/11 11:38 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Very interesting thread. I like the point about increased mathematical ability. I remember very vividly, among not much else, of suddenly having a perfect conceptualization and understanding of math so advanced I've never even seen the symbols (existent ones lol) on a heavy HBWR trip. Sounds like a tripping delusion, probably is, but I never got a similar feel from any other psychedelic. I achieve "perfect understanding" at times but never in any mathematical terms. If this happens again I WILL write it down, and see if anything legitimate is up.

You've posted about taking nootropical doses of both HBWR and MG. Do you recommend MG over HBWR or is that just what you're currently experimenting with? Last time I took a 5 seed dose of HBWR (too much for nootropic) I couldn't concentrate for shit, very unlike most low dose drug experiences.


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Re: The Morning Glory of Morning Glory: Entheogenic Nootropics [Re: KingEmblem]
    #14282747 - 04/13/11 08:50 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I've taken MG's for 4 years and it was at the start of this year that I did trials with 100 HBWR seeds. My mathematical understanding (due to my increased focus, concentration, better organization of thoughts, much better memory recall and just a better grasp of math somehow) is consistent every single time I do LSA (doesn't matter whether it's MG or HBWR) and tackle algebra.

I recommend neither over neither. They both serve their purpose.

I've determined that HBWR's are perfect for intelligence increasing (as it was/is used in Ayurvedic medicine) as it never really blasts you into a full-blown trip. It definitely throws my brain into full throttle, that's for sure.

Whereas all my spiritual/entheogenic experiences on LSA have been with Morning Glories. I recommend either as nootropics but my personal preference is MG's as, even in nootropical doses, I gain some very profound insights.

Morning Glories are perfect for sitting in complete darkness and contemplating, whether it be extensive personal reflecting or thoughts of grandeur and divine comprehension.


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