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Re: People can sense vibes. [Re: g00ru]
#14258113 - 04/08/11 11:35 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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If you and another person can sense vibes not transmitted through sensory clues, i.e. bodly language, facial expression, voice, etc.
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Re: People can sense vibes. [Re: g00ru]
#14258130 - 04/08/11 11:39 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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It actually is that [simple body language, not auras], only for most people the subtle body language is the most they can detect.
If that were true, then for SOME people, it would be possible to detect auras when someone stands behind a screen. Yet when when this is tested, a 100% failure rate results.
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Re: People can sense vibes. [Re: Diploid]
#14258137 - 04/08/11 11:40 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Well, they clearly aren't testing the right people then. And damn, please don't be so naive as to think science magically has access to people like that.
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Re: People can sense vibes. [Re: g00ru]
#14258147 - 04/08/11 11:44 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Well, judging from all the YouTube videos, and internet blogs, and even Shroomerites who claim this ability, these people can't be that scarce.
Meanwhile, the Million Dollar Challenge (and several others) remain on the table.
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Re: People can sense vibes. [Re: Diploid]
#14258156 - 04/08/11 11:47 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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But that's a farce. You can't expect somebody like Mooji to just agree to be tested upon, that's very tasteless. Watch a few of his dialogues though and see for yourself how well he detects vibes and what people are thinking.
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Re: People can sense vibes. [Re: g00ru]
#14258170 - 04/08/11 11:49 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I mean, just look at that million dollar challenge thing. That's so gay! That's like that gameshow on matilda where the people get sprayed with sticky stuff and have money pasted to them. No self respecting spiritual master is gonna do something like that. They just don't care. You might think this is a cop out. It aint! It's just the way things are.
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Re: People can sense vibes. [Re: g00ru]
#14258257 - 04/08/11 12:09 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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guruu said: You can't expect somebody like Mooji to just agree to be tested upon, that's very tasteless.
How is it tasteless? "Somebody like Mooji"? What's he like, exactly? Wouldn't he want people to be more 'Aware of the Truth'?
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Re: People can sense vibes. [Re: g00ru]
#14258294 - 04/08/11 12:17 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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guruu said: I mean, just look at that million dollar challenge thing. That's so gay! That's like that gameshow on matilda where the people get sprayed with sticky stuff and have money pasted to them. No self respecting spiritual master is gonna do something like that. They just don't care. You might think this is a cop out. It aint! It's just the way things are.
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Re: People can sense vibes. [Re: Diploid]
#14258355 - 04/08/11 12:31 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Diploid said: Well, judging from all the YouTube videos, and internet blogs, and even Shroomerites who claim this ability, these people can't be that scarce.
Meanwhile, the Million Dollar Challenge (and several others) remain on the table.
I don't think something as common as "sensing vibes" is worth that million dollars. It's not like some superhero ability or anything.
It's when a woman is talking to a guy and gets the vibe that he might be a date rapist, and listens to her "better senses" and gtfo.
It's when you walk into a room of people and you notice that the tone is serious. It's when you get the impression you aren't welcome.
it's when a nervous nelly is pacing around behind you and it gives you anxiety (like i said earlier, faster arrythmic vibrations)
it's when you know that girl wants you to talk to her. You might almost say it's like body language. The vibrations of the moment are mathematically equivalent to whatever is going on, so it's not so crazy to think that with time there could possibly be an instrument to measure it. maybe something similar to sonar
who cares what a Mooji is. The continuing study of the science of music has long been involved in "vibes." Did you know that certain keys are preferable for getting your troops feeling heroic? etc etc
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Re: People can sense vibes. [Re: g00ru]
#14258851 - 04/08/11 02:29 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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No self respecting spiritual master is gonna do something like that.
No, they're going to sell books and make YouTube videos instead. Sure.
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Re: People can sense vibes. [Re: the bizzle]
#14258861 - 04/08/11 02:31 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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It's when a woman is talking to a guy and gets the vibe that he might be a date rapist
What are you responding to? Cuz it's not what's being discussed in this thread.
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Re: People can sense vibes. [Re: the bizzle]
#14259143 - 04/08/11 03:23 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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It's when a woman is talking to a guy and gets the vibe that he might be a date rapist, and listens to her "better senses" and gtfo.
Really? Not one of Ted Bundy's 30+ vicitms noticed a damned thing prior to his making his intentions clear. They thought he was charming.
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the cuckoo bird lays its eggs in the nest of other birds. any other bird that tries this will have their eggs removed. the cuckoo egg has the vibes of the expected eggs, it is an effective impostor.
for every "rule" you will have a few rule busters.
but what do you mean by vibes, do you mean what I mean or do you mean something idiotic that you have heard; because this may just have to do with sloppy thinking and sloppy speech/writing, and that is probably your big beef, yet you are nipping and biting at this like it is a major issue.
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Millions of people sent 'good vibes' to Japan and the radiation is spreading and the quakes continue, but so what? Their vibrational level was increased. 
Other people sent millions of dollars so that some of the homeless Japanese got food, water and blankets. God-damned materialists!
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OrgoneConclusion said: Millions of people sent 'good vibes' to Japan and the radiation is spreading ...
Hmm, connection?
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OrgoneConclusion said: And then when I mention testing, suddenly people cannot sense vibes because it is on the spiritual plane and that would violate some ill-defined Kosmic Karma. BZZZT!
It only violates rationality.
If you and another person can sense vibes not transmitted through sensory clues, i.e. bodly language, facial expression, voice, etc. Then that would qualify for the Grand Skeptic Prize.
Of course we know, these thing can only be done in private when no one is looking. 
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OrgoneConclusion said: And then when I mention testing, suddenly people cannot sense vibes because it is on the spiritual plane and that would violate some ill-defined Kosmic Karma. BZZZT!
It only violates rationality.
If you and another person can sense vibes not transmitted through sensory clues, i.e. bodly language, facial expression, voice, etc. Then that would qualify for the Grand Skeptic Prize.
Of course we know, these thing can only be done in private when no one is looking. 
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Re: People can sense vibes. [Re: meatcakeman]
#14260682 - 04/08/11 09:01 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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What about him?
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well i found him relevant to your OP because he publicly supports telepathy, morphic resonance, etc. using scientific methods to test his theories.
so there was nothing particular about him i was trying to mention. i just thought he was relevant to this thread.
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Re: People can sense vibes. [Re: meatcakeman]
#14260862 - 04/08/11 09:51 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Sheldrake's "staring experiment" has been completely debunked by SCICOP. As for his "telephone telepathy", his sample size was about 60 people. Too small to have statistical significance. That plus only four were actually filmed. The rest we have to take his word for. But alright, let's give him the benefit of the doubt on the unfilmed experiments.
The issue of an insufficient sample size can't be dismissed, however, because it renders his result as likely to be a normal statistical variation as to be a real effect. A fair coin will flip heads three times in a row sometimes. If you only flip it three times, your results are meaningless. You have to flip it enough times so that statistical diffusion is sufficient to give the results meaning.
When this problem was pointed out to him, did he run the experiment again with a larger sample like a neutral seeker of truth? No, he published the (invalid) results and went on to invent experiments to test other unrelated effects. This works for him because unless you're versed in statistics theory, 60 samples will seem like plenty.
It's like he got a lucky hit and was afraid to validate it because he knew it night well fail if done with a proper sample size.
P.T. Barnum was soooo right.
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