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Storing LSD in hot weather
    #14251497 - 04/07/11 04:12 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I will be going to coachella next week and I am bringing along some blotter. I expect it to be hot, very hot. I don't want the lsd to degrade as much as possible. What can I do to protect it? I will be camping and I am bringing 2 coolers along with me, one for regular ice and the other with dry ice. Is keeping the blotter in the dry ice container safe? I am hesitant about keeping it in there though because I am camping and I am afraid of snooping campers looking through my ice chest and finding it. Any suggestions?

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Re: Storing LSD in hot weather [Re: stepup.stepout]
    #14251883 - 04/07/11 07:48 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

The best advice I have for storing blotter when camping is this -

The floor of the tent is usually naturally the coolest area in the tent, usually a nice cool feel. If you have your sleeping bag or airbed, it will insulate that area of the floor to remain cool even when the temps in the tent soar to close to 100F or higher. You store the blotter between the sleeping bag and the floor of the tent and it should keep it within the perfect temp range with none of the worries of moisture condensation in a cooler.

I've also used the insulated pic-nic bags when walking around the venue. I forget what they're actually called, but it is a bag that keeps hot food hot or cold food cold, so it is thermally resistant to ambient temps...you can probably find them at Wal-Mart/Target type-places.

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Re: Storing LSD in hot weather [Re: stepup.stepout]
    #14251886 - 04/07/11 07:50 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Bring only the amount you plan to eat, give out, or sell. I've been to indio(the town where coachella is held) for festival 8 during halloween 09 and it was 90 to 100 during the day and 50s at night. I brought a small stash of paper for me and my friends and there was no potency loss just storing the paper in a tupperware container in my bag in my tent which probably had a temperature of over 100 degrees by midday (time to get the fuck out of the tent and wake up!)

Try underneath the seats in your car if you're really worried. Also, you can seal up your paper in a bag and put it under your tent too. Watch out for condensation under the tent though and make sure your bag is sealed tight.

Should be fine if you only bring what you need/are going to eat.


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Re: Storing LSD in hot weather [Re: floatingwater]
    #14252233 - 04/07/11 09:42 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Just for clarity, when I said "the floor" I meant the inside floor of the tent :smile:

I tend to think storage in the car would be like putting it into a solar oven, so it may get way hotter in the car than outside...

Those 50 degree nights mean that there will be a lot of cooling thermal mass accumulated during the night, so all day the earth will be releasing the cool and absorbing the heat, so under the sleeping bag on the floor of the tent takes advantage of the heat-exchange, and should never get above about say 70F or so...

LSD is pretty stable though, and I do tend to be a "Better safe than sorry" kinda guy :smile:

Edited by dwpineal (04/07/11 11:14 AM)

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Re: Storing LSD in hot weather [Re: dwpineal]
    #14252337 - 04/07/11 10:12 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

you are not goin to have a problem with losin potency


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Re: Storing LSD in hot weather [Re: dwpineal]
    #14252473 - 04/07/11 10:46 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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All say the earth will be releasing the cool and absorbing the heat




lol

Saying, "Releasing the cool." is like saying, "Turning on the dark."


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Re: Storing LSD in hot weather [Re: healing]
    #14252553 - 04/07/11 11:06 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Would be digging a small hole in the grass and burying it there be ok, as long as it is sealed tight?

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Re: Storing LSD in hot weather [Re: healing]
    #14252637 - 04/07/11 11:28 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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healing said:
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dwpineal said:
All say the earth will be releasing the cool and absorbing the heat




lol

Saying, "Releasing the cool." is like saying, "Turning on the dark."




I meant, "all day" not "all say"

Basically it works like this (the image is for thermal mass heating, but it works the same for cooling)

The cool being "released" is in reference to the fact that the thermal mass of the Earth stores the cool (or heat), and then as ambient temperatures change then the Earth radiates the stored cool or warmth...




This has a lot to do with Earth-birmed housing such as Earthships that use the constant temp of the earth about 5-6FT below the ground for temp regulation within the house...

Mabybe you wanted me to use the word 'Exchanged" instead of "released" as the release mostly refers to the heat?

Here's some more info on this type of technology...
http://www.cd3wd.com/cd3wd_40/vita/coolingp/en/coolingp.htm

Passive cooling systems use simple, low-cost techniques to provide
summer comfort in warm climates for people and animals in
buildings. Such systems can also be used to keep food, liquids,
and other materials at temperatures that will prevent spoiling or
other deterioration.

Ground Cooling

Like water, earth or subsurface rock reduces extremes of heat and
cold. Although the surface temperature of soil rises during hot
summer days, soil at a depth of several feet is much cooler and
generally remains constant year-round. Cool cave habitats date
back thousands of years, and modern versions are being built,
generally for office buildings or for storage. A new generation
of underground homes is popular as builders seek even temperatures
year round with little or no expense for heating or cooling.
These earth-sheltered homes are excavated and/or bermed
with earth for added insulation.


Night Radiant Cooling

Even in hot desert regions, the night sky is often quite cool.
This permits the radiation of large amounts of heat from a building.

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Re: Storing LSD in hot weather [Re: dwpineal]
    #14252662 - 04/07/11 11:34 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Coolness is an absence of thermal energy, it cannot be released; things that are cool can absorb heat (thermal energy,) but things that are warm cannot absorb coolness, instead they release thermal energy.


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Re: Storing LSD in hot weather [Re: healing]
    #14252716 - 04/07/11 11:46 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Okay, cool, I totally appreciate the info - now how should I be stating what I am trying to say above?

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Re: Storing LSD in hot weather [Re: dwpineal]
    #14253581 - 04/07/11 02:49 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks for the info, I'll keep it in mind. One more question: Would it be better to roll on the first day and then trip on the second, or is there a cross tolerance between MDMA and lsd?

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Re: Storing LSD in hot weather [Re: dwpineal]
    #14253717 - 04/07/11 03:11 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Okay, cool, I totally appreciate the info - now how should I be stating what I am trying to say above?




I don't know. I couldn't be arsed to read it lol.


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Re: Storing LSD in hot weather [Re: healing]
    #14253795 - 04/07/11 03:22 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Edited by waves (04/22/11 12:25 AM)

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Re: Storing LSD in hot weather [Re: waves]
    #14253993 - 04/07/11 03:54 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah I agree keep it on you. Its nice to always have it right there with you. Coachella is a big place and you will really wear yourself out walking back and forth from camp to shows every time you want to take/give a hit. You will wear yourself out anyway. I got back from Coachella and my legs/feet were sore for a week.

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Re: Storing LSD in hot weather [Re: drr]
    #14254063 - 04/07/11 04:10 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah last year I was incredisore after every night haha, but I went totally sober last year so that by itself was draining. I will definitely find a way to keep it on my persons, but I like to come up with very unique hiding places to be absolutely sure my goodies don't get taken away.

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Re: Storing LSD in hot weather [Re: stepup.stepout]
    #14254240 - 04/07/11 04:42 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I had acid in a car for 3 days during a festival where the temperature in the car had to be well over 100 degrees pretty much the whole day. It was in a small container wrapped in foil. It was fine, no potency loss after that and over a year of being wrapped in foil inside a container at room temperature.

Don't sweat it, your stash is safe. So many people are afraid of their hits suddenly being weak for whatever reason, thankfully it doesn't seem to work like that for the most part.

There isn't a cross tolerance between MDMA and LSD that I know of. I'd probably trip first since I'm usually worn out the day after rolling, but then again I'm kind of loopy after tripping too for a bit. Really I doubt it would make much of a difference, just do whatever you're feeling at the time. I hope you know for sure that your E is real with a reagent test or prior use of the same stuff, one of my worst ever drug experiences was with only a pill and a half of some fake ass adulterated rolls. Since then I refuse to eat anything that's untested.

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Re: Storing LSD in hot weather [Re: Best]
    #14254276 - 04/07/11 04:50 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I don't have a test myself, but I use pillreports quite frequently and will never dose unless it has been tested.

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Re: Storing LSD in hot weather [Re: stepup.stepout]
    #14254396 - 04/07/11 05:14 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Some people just ingest massive amounts of drugs throughout festivals

I'm not like that though

I usually will get one good, solid trip in, and then after that, it feels good to come down, and I will just smoke pot the rest of the time.
Others I will micro dose throughout so I am constantly high but never overwhelmed. That way I can keep using the psychedelic without the natural anti-addictive property kicking in by blowing my mind and humbling me. Not the best way to use psychedelic drugs, but at a festival, sometimes your goal is just to get high, not have a spiritual experience.

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Re: Storing LSD in hot weather [Re: healing]
    #14254504 - 04/07/11 05:31 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Quote:

dwpineal said:
All say the earth will be releasing the cool and absorbing the heat




lol

Saying, "Releasing the cool." is like saying, "Turning on the dark."



lol my thoughts exactly :dancer:

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Re: Storing LSD in hot weather [Re: dwpineal]
    #14254603 - 04/07/11 05:51 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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dwpineal said:
Just for clarity, when I said "the floor" I meant the inside floor of the tent :smile:





Hah, I actually thought about typing "see if dwpineal has an answer for you" but i digress.

I get condensation underneath my tent and underneath my sleeping pad inside my tent too.. But then again I also wake up sweating bullets on a soggy pillow at festivals as well

Gotta watch out for the early morning dew in the midwest too.. Festival season is right around the corner.. :pedobear:


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