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Re: Can you insult yourself? [Re: Diploid]
    #14251672 - 04/07/11 05:59 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I never meant to require that he feel insulted, only that he write something as biting as he would to a person who held strong mystic beliefs.

He could have asked to change the terms to something he would be more agreeable to. Instead he just ignored me. I didn't think they were that unreasonable, how hard is it to write up an original insult of oneself?

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Re: Can you insult yourself? [Re: xFrockx]
    #14251776 - 04/07/11 06:48 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I really don't think OC would be capable of writing really nasty, scathing, insults of himself in this thread, do you? Do ya know what I mean? :wink: I'm not talkin some pissy lame pretend insult to himself. I'm now talkin about him writing the sort of brutally honest rants which aim to cut himself down, showing what he sees as his weaknesses and completely attempts to humiliate himself in the process. Not only do I think he's not capable of this, I reckon he wouldn't have the guts. And I am so confident in that that I bet 1 month ban for me if he does it in the next day or two. But no need to ban anyone if he doesn't want to do it. To be adjudicated by whichever moderator or set of moderators who might like to decide.

I am sort of expecting to read an excuse about insulting members, including himself, is against the rules in this forum or something like that. If so, maybe there can be an exemption here for the sake of philosophical inquiry. :yesnod:


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Re: Can you insult yourself? [Re: xFrockx]
    #14253696 - 04/07/11 03:08 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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xFrockx said:
Can you do it? What does it mean to be able to do it, or not do it? Why?




Yes, it is possible. But it exists in so many levels it is hard to describe. Some of these levels are bipolar-connected.

Can you hit yourself really really hard? Can you put your hand on a hot stove? Can you insult yourself? Yes, you can, if you really feel the need, if you have two opposite emotions: like, when you had to do something that hurt the other, but at that moment you had no choice.

This leads to paranoia and self hate. Don't try it.


The art of insult relies in the truth. If you say to someone that he/she is a dickhead, it may mean various things, the word itself doesn't matter. Now it depends on the recievers ego and his/her mindset. Some people whipe it off from their shoulders, some people grow insecure that he/she doesn't like at all for some reason to others, etc.

So, it is possible to insult yourself, but to have unconsious insult from random word, your mind has to be split. Otherwise you could only insult yourself if you truly mean it and know that something is wrong.

Basicly, people do not have to be insulted at all on someones words. In the end, people insult themselves, they think of themselves and they make the translation of that nasty word, they think of some truth that may be applied to it and that makes them bitter.


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Re: Can you insult yourself? [Re: xFrockx]
    #14253811 - 04/07/11 03:26 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I don't think you can. An insult needs to be offensive to be an insult, and
for something to be offensive it has to lay beyond what the person who gets
offended considers an acceptable remark/feeling/opinion, so basically you
can't insult yourself in the normal sense.


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Re: Can you insult yourself? [Re: 13.step]
    #14256648 - 04/08/11 12:38 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I've reacted to certain situations in ways that make me judge myself, ie "That was a stupid thing to say", though usually more in thought than words. If the goal of an insult is to hurt someone's ego, then I've attained the end without necessarily using direct insult at a means.


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