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hard drive eraser
    #14252949 - 04/07/11 12:49 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

can anyone recommend some good software for erasing a hard drive
beyond recovery.
you know a police on the way so burn everything kinda deal.

there,s a lot of different ones out there and the last thing i need is a false sense of security from a crappy program

thanks:thumbup:


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Re: hard drive eraser [Re: Micawber]
    #14252953 - 04/07/11 12:50 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Jetico BCWipe

http://www.jetico.com/


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Re: hard drive eraser [Re: Micawber]
    #14252961 - 04/07/11 12:52 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Micawber said:

thanks:thumbup:...in advance.




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Re: hard drive eraser [Re: ModularMind]
    #14252982 - 04/07/11 12:55 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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ifoundwaldo said:
Jetico BCWipe

http://www.jetico.com/




I would suggest active killdisk. i believe it does a 7 pass erase and write over that even the Department of defense can't recover your data


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Re: hard drive eraser [Re: InvaderShroom]
    #14253052 - 04/07/11 01:08 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Go with DBAN: Darik's Boot And Nuke

http://www.dban.org/

Bootable CD that has several different options for a wipe including 0 fill, random, DOD (3pass), DOD (7pass), and GUTMANN (crazy amount of passes).

Really, if you're doing something that you don't want to get caught at or have data you don't want read, it's a better bet to have full disk encryption in the event you get popped.  Turn off the computer with a power strip at your foot.  Then pray they don't freeze spray the ram and try to analyze it for the encryption keys in memory.

Checkout http://www.truecrypt.org/ for virtual encrypted disks and full disk encryption.


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Re: hard drive eraser [Re: InvaderShroom]
    #14253083 - 04/07/11 01:15 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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InvaderShroom said:
Quote:

ifoundwaldo said:
Jetico BCWipe

http://www.jetico.com/




I would suggest active killdisk. i believe it does a 7 pass erase and write over that even the Department of defense can't recover your data




BCWipe also does a DOD 7 pass erase.

Never heard of DBAN though. That sounds really good.


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Re: hard drive eraser [Re: ifoundwaldo]
    #14253089 - 04/07/11 01:16 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Just so you guys know, there's no way to fully remove data from a hard drive short of melting it with thermite.

There have been reports of drives that have 7+ wipes on them, thrown into a river, recovered years later and data taken off them.


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Re: hard drive eraser [Re: Micawber] * 2
    #14253140 - 04/07/11 01:26 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I would take a sledgehammer to the drive and pulverize it into pieces small enough to flush.


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Re: hard drive eraser [Re: anomaly100716]
    #14253260 - 04/07/11 01:48 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

What about just sticking a very powerful magnet on it?


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Re: hard drive eraser [Re: anomaly100716]
    #14253484 - 04/07/11 02:36 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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anomaly100716 said:
I would take a sledgehammer to the drive and pulverize it into pieces small enough to flush.




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Re: hard drive eraser [Re: pwnasaurus]
    #14253520 - 04/07/11 02:41 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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pwnasaurus said:
Just so you guys know, there's no way to fully remove data from a hard drive short of melting it with thermite.

There have been reports of drives that have 7+ wipes on them, thrown into a river, recovered years later and data taken off them.




Thats not true.  You need to use a SEM to look at every bit.

Consider if what you said is true, then a hard drive could theoretically hold an infinite amount of information.  Even more than the entire universe can hold.  But a hard drive is a subset of the universe, thus a hard drive cannot hold an infinite amount of information and thus data can (and must be) removed from a hard drive.


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Re: hard drive eraser [Re: DieCommie]
    #14253649 - 04/07/11 03:00 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Or drill multiple holes straight through the drive. I work with computers daily for a living and destroy many hard drives. We have recovered info off drives that have been run over by cars, hit with hammers ect...


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Re: hard drive eraser [Re: Country1]
    #14253662 - 04/07/11 03:03 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Im not sure how running over with a car or hitting with a hammer would destroy the data?  I would expect it not to.


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Re: hard drive eraser [Re: DieCommie]
    #14253667 - 04/07/11 03:04 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

fdisk, it's been built into dos/windows forever.

the F stands for format.

OR you could use diskpart.exe if you run a newer version of windows.


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Re: hard drive eraser [Re: Shins]
    #14253801 - 04/07/11 03:24 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Shins said:
fdisk, it's been built into dos/windows forever.

the F stands for format.

OR you could use diskpart.exe if you run a newer version of windows.




Worst advice in the thread. Formatting doesn't get rid of data, it just deletes partitions. All that data is still there and fully recoverable.


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Re: hard drive eraser [Re: Gumby]
    #14254340 - 04/07/11 05:04 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

thanks all
ill try out theses suggestions
(well hopefully not for real):bouncey:


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Re: hard drive eraser [Re: Micawber]
    #14254367 - 04/07/11 05:09 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

If your concern really is the police, you would be much better off to use TrueCrypt full disk encryption with a dummy operating system as a smokescreen.

Im not sure how much time you think you are gonna have once they start breaking down the door...  Doing multiple wipes will take hours.  Having your disk encrypted ahead of time would be much better.


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Re: hard drive eraser [Re: DieCommie]
    #14254429 - 04/07/11 05:18 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Anyone confirm/rebuke a powerful magnet on hard drive wiping everything? Doesn't it just pretty much set all of the data to 0's?


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Re: hard drive eraser [Re: twighead]
    #14259686 - 04/08/11 04:59 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Even if a powerful electromagnet did flip all the bits to a one or zero, if someone REALLY wanted to read the data, they could magnetically analyze the drive to reconstruct the contents.


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Re: hard drive eraser [Re: Micawber]
    #14259754 - 04/08/11 05:14 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

You forgot the most important question.

What is a good program you can use to recover lost data on a hard drive?

Ya know, so you can test out the effectiveness of these programs listed.


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