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Re: the republican candidates are looking good for 2012 [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14335245 - 04/22/11 08:38 PM (13 years, 29 days ago)

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let's see... from the cbs/wsj poll, here are the big guys
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2011/04/06/wsjnbc-poll-a-donald-trump-surprise/

romney AGAIN
donald trump (the fuck?)
huckabee AGAIN
newt gingrich (okay, maybe)
palin AGAIN


yeah so there's the competition. 3 previous failures who couldn't even come close to winning the party's nomination in 2008 and are pretty much blowhards. trump? that guy's a joke, the people voting for him are insane.

gingrich is...well, not ideal and probably doesn't have the force to win, but he's probably the best shot.

but really, if they want any chance in taking out obama, the republicans will need to come up with someone better than that. it's just rehashed shit right now that obama already beat in 2012. and ron paul not even included in the poll, not that he had a chance anyways.





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Pawlenty
Daniels
Somebody else, it's early.

The fucking idiots elected an empty suit running against a ghost (Bush).  Now the empty suit has utterly shit the bed but actually is running.  I am cautiously optimistic.





Actually believing there is a difference between one and the other
is asinine.

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Re: the republican candidates are looking good for 2012 [Re: imachavel]
    #14337706 - 04/23/11 10:28 AM (13 years, 29 days ago)

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Bullshit, Al.  The money has nothing to do with it.




well what does man? not that i'm disagreeing with you, but if not money, then what does?



Al constantly argues that the form of money we use is toxic.  Which is moronic.  The form of the currency is irrelevant to the ability and/or willingness of politicians to plunder the populace.


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Re: the republican candidates are looking good for 2012 [Re: athedrivein61]
    #14337711 - 04/23/11 10:29 AM (13 years, 29 days ago)

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zappaisgod said:
Pawlenty
Daniels
Somebody else, it's early.

The fucking idiots elected an empty suit running against a ghost (Bush).  Now the empty suit has utterly shit the bed but actually is running.  I am cautiously optimistic.





Actually believing there is a difference between one and the other
is asinine.




Believing they are all the same is juvenile and bespeaks an ignorance that should not be allowed to vote.


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Re: the republican candidates are looking good for 2012 [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14337714 - 04/23/11 10:30 AM (13 years, 29 days ago)

Good + Politics = unlikely.


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Re: the republican candidates are looking good for 2012 [Re: PassiveAgressive]
    #14337750 - 04/23/11 10:43 AM (13 years, 29 days ago)

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Good + Politics = unlikely.



Politics is conflict resolution.  There is always going to be somebody unhappy.  Therefor "good" isn't really relevant in the universal sense.  Politics when properly practiced should be a null set system.  When improperly practiced it becomes a jail system for politicians.


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Re: the republican candidates are looking good for 2012 [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14338804 - 04/23/11 02:42 PM (13 years, 29 days ago)

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zappaisgod said:
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athedrivein61 said:



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zappaisgod said:
Pawlenty
Daniels
Somebody else, it's early.

The fucking idiots elected an empty suit running against a ghost (Bush).  Now the empty suit has utterly shit the bed but actually is running.  I am cautiously optimistic.





Actually believing there is a difference between one and the other
is asinine.




Believing they are all the same is juvenile and bespeaks an ignorance that should not be allowed to vote.





Prove it :smirk: Prove to us all the is a difference besides the
actual definition of each word. There may have been a difference at
one point no doubt. But to think that is true today is juvenile.


Its ok, I understand. Its hard knowing that everything you believe in
is bullshit but you must look past all that.

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Re: the republican candidates are looking good for 2012 [Re: athedrivein61]
    #14338981 - 04/23/11 03:14 PM (13 years, 29 days ago)

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athedrivein61 said:
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athedrivein61 said:



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zappaisgod said:
Pawlenty
Daniels
Somebody else, it's early.

The fucking idiots elected an empty suit running against a ghost (Bush).  Now the empty suit has utterly shit the bed but actually is running.  I am cautiously optimistic.





Actually believing there is a difference between one and the other
is asinine.




Believing they are all the same is juvenile and bespeaks an ignorance that should not be allowed to vote.





Prove it :smirk: Prove to us all the is a difference besides the
actual definition of each word. There may have been a difference at
one point no doubt. But to think that is true today is juvenile.


Its ok, I understand. Its hard knowing that everything you believe in
is bullshit but you must look past all that.



:rofl2:

What word would you like me to define for you?  You make no sense.

Do you really in your benighted fever dreams believe that there is not one whit's difference between, say, Allen West and Bernie Sanders?  Paul Ryan and Barack Obama?  Ron Paul from Barney Frank?  Other than Obama do you know who any of those people are without a fresh google search?  Put down the pipe, child and demand your money back from whatever school failed you so horribly.  There most definitely are differences between parties and individuals.  I believe I read in that Pub thread you made that you seem to think the media is in cahoots with the government.  That made me chuckle.  It depends which party is on power.  If the Republicans are in power the media, generally, are pitbulls.  If the Dems are in power the media are, generally, lapdogs.

Ignorant and blinkered is no way to go through life, son.  If you cannot discern a difference between politicians and the policies that they espouse do us all a favor and stay the fuck home come November.  Do some rips.  It will make you feel superior.


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Re: the republican candidates are looking good for 2012 [Re: zappaisgod] * 1
    #14343454 - 04/24/11 01:12 PM (13 years, 28 days ago)

You're delusional. Have you been forgetting to take your senility pills?


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Re: the republican candidates are looking good for 2012 [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #14343475 - 04/24/11 01:20 PM (13 years, 28 days ago)

So you think there really is no difference at all, huh?  You might want to get checked out for advanced Alzheimer's.  It can strike at any age I've heard.  Or maybe some kind of spongiform thing, I dunno, I don't even play a doctor on TV.


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Re: the republican candidates are looking good for 2012 [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14348370 - 04/25/11 10:32 AM (13 years, 27 days ago)

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Good + Politics = unlikely.



Politics is conflict resolution.  There is always going to be somebody unhappy.  Therefor "good" isn't really relevant in the universal sense.  Politics when properly practiced should be a null set system.  When improperly practiced it becomes a jail system for politicians.






Oh, well, excuse me. Let me rephrase this for better understanding, as I sometime make assumptions about peoples understanding, humor and perspective;

Effective + Large, cancerous, plutocratic, check-less systems = unlikely.

I should mention this... At this point in time, from the perspective of the down and out in the USA or anyone who has been rendered jobless, homeless and otherwise without hope or help from either friend, neighbor, employer, or state institution (ASIDE from incarceration), GOOD + POLITICS = UNLIKELY, still stands true, irregardless of the implied meaning of politics. As a product of the whole, proper politics in contemporary America barely exist.

The core of what I'm saying is don't be easily fooled. There is no GOOD aligned argument for that.


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Re: the republican candidates are looking good for 2012 [Re: PassiveAgressive]
    #14348419 - 04/25/11 10:43 AM (13 years, 27 days ago)

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zappaisgod said:
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PassiveAgressive said:
Good + Politics = unlikely.



Politics is conflict resolution.  There is always going to be somebody unhappy.  Therefor "good" isn't really relevant in the universal sense.  Politics when properly practiced should be a null set system.  When improperly practiced it becomes a jail system for politicians.






Oh, well, excuse me. Let me rephrase this for better understanding, as I sometime make assumptions about peoples understanding, humor and perspective;

Effective + Large, cancerous, plutocratic, check-less systems = unlikely.

I should mention this... At this point in time, from the perspective of the down and out in the USA or anyone who has been rendered jobless, homeless and otherwise without hope or help from either friend, neighbor, employer, or state institution (ASIDE from incarceration), GOOD + POLITICS = UNLIKELY, still stands true, irregardless of the implied meaning of politics. As a product of the whole, proper politics in contemporary America barely exist.

The core of what I'm saying is don't be easily fooled. There is no GOOD aligned argument for that.



Bullshit.  Apparently your idea of political resolution is taking from some to give to others.  That isn't politics.  It's Robin Hoodism.  Emphasis "hood".  Why do you think the focus of politics is about panhandling bums?  Close to home?


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Re: the republican candidates are looking good for 2012 [Re: zappaisgod] * 1
    #14348573 - 04/25/11 11:15 AM (13 years, 27 days ago)

I'll spare you insult.

Millions of poor and growing (of which I and my family are some) equates a very substantial problem (in case you are unaware.) If politics are created for conflict-resolution, where is the resolution? Robin-hood is fairly irrelevant, whereas my poverty is very real. Anyway, now Mr. Mysterious, Zappisgod, just exactly who are you and what is your motivation to lull me into argument?

Disillusioned America + Politics = The most dangerous concoction known to the current gross total set of species inhabiting planet Earth.



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Edited by PassiveAgressive (04/25/11 11:16 AM)

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Re: the republican candidates are looking good for 2012 [Re: PassiveAgressive]
    #14348651 - 04/25/11 11:33 AM (13 years, 27 days ago)

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I'll spare you insult.

Millions of poor and growing (of which I and my family are some) equates a very substantial problem (in case you are unaware.) If politics are created for conflict-resolution, where is the resolution? Robin-hood is fairly irrelevant, whereas my poverty is very real. Anyway, now Mr. Mysterious, Zappisgod, just exactly who are you and what is your motivation to lull me into argument?

Disillusioned America + Politics = The most dangerous concoction known to the current gross total set of species inhabiting planet Earth.



The greater the feeling of inferiority that has been experienced, the more powerful is the urge to conquest and the more violent the emotional agitation.

-Alfred Adler





Adler, LOL.

Get to work and stop whining.  You can't be that poor if you have money and time for a computer and an internet connection.  I bet you have a cell phone and cable, too.


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Re: the republican candidates are looking good for 2012 [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14348855 - 04/25/11 12:28 PM (13 years, 27 days ago)

I rest my case.


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Re: the republican candidates are looking good for 2012 [Re: PassiveAgressive]
    #14350121 - 04/25/11 04:45 PM (13 years, 27 days ago)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/mitch-daniels-sounds-alarm-but-indiana-republican-hesitant-to-run-in-2012/2011/04/21/AFruhpdE_story_2.html
That record includes shrinking state government employment to its smallest level since the late 1970s (and to the lowest per capita of any state in the country), keeping his budget in the black through the worst of the recent recession without raising taxes, and a package of education proposals that he hopes will be enacted by the end of the month. Daniels says he’s also proud of the work he has done to improve the business climate in the state.


I'm intrigued to learn more about Mitch Daniels and really hope he runs, as he already seems heads-and-shoulders above any of the rest of prospective candidates the GOP has to offer. :yesnod:


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Re: the republican candidates are looking good for 2012 [Re: fireworks_god]
    #14350427 - 04/25/11 05:41 PM (13 years, 27 days ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_E._Johnson

I heard him on Hannity today.  I liked him.


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Re: the republican candidates are looking good for 2012 [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14353889 - 04/26/11 07:28 AM (13 years, 26 days ago)

Ron Paul is the only republican I would vote for.

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Re: the republican candidates are looking good for 2012 [Re: fireworks_god]
    #14354503 - 04/26/11 10:54 AM (13 years, 26 days ago)

Yeah daniels looks interesting, I'm gonna have to research him some more.

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Re: the republican candidates are looking good for 2012 [Re: teknix]
    #14355040 - 04/26/11 12:38 PM (13 years, 26 days ago)

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Ron Paul is the only republican I would vote for.




And he's in. Today in Iowa he is announcing his formation of a presidential exploratory committee.

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Re: the republican candidates are looking good for 2012 [Re: Rebirtha]
    #14356172 - 04/26/11 04:41 PM (13 years, 26 days ago)

palin/trump would be a dream come true, and not because i'd vote for them.


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