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the republican candidates are looking good for 2012
    #14252534 - 04/07/11 11:03 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

let's see... from the cbs/wsj poll, here are the big guys
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2011/04/06/wsjnbc-poll-a-donald-trump-surprise/

romney AGAIN
donald trump (the fuck?)
huckabee AGAIN
newt gingrich (okay, maybe)
palin AGAIN


yeah so there's the competition. 3 previous failures who couldn't even come close to winning the party's nomination in 2008 and are pretty much blowhards. trump? that guy's a joke, the people voting for him are insane.

gingrich is...well, not ideal and probably doesn't have the force to win, but he's probably the best shot.

but really, if they want any chance in taking out obama, the republicans will need to come up with someone better than that. it's just rehashed shit right now that obama already beat in 2012. and ron paul not even included in the poll, not that he had a chance anyways.

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Re: the republican candidates are looking good for 2012 [Re: JT]
    #14252590 - 04/07/11 11:15 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Pawlenty
Daniels
Somebody else, it's early.

The fucking idiots elected an empty suit running against a ghost (Bush).  Now the empty suit has utterly shit the bed but actually is running.  I am cautiously optimistic.


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Re: the republican candidates are looking good for 2012 [Re: JT]
    #14252667 - 04/07/11 11:36 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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JT said:
let's see... from the cbs/wsj poll, here are the big guys
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2011/04/06/wsjnbc-poll-a-donald-trump-surprise/

romney AGAIN
donald trump (the fuck?)
huckabee AGAIN
newt gingrich (okay, maybe)
palin AGAIN


yeah so there's the competition. 3 previous failures who couldn't even come close to winning the party's nomination in 2008 and are pretty much blowhards. trump? that guy's a joke, the people voting for him are insane.

gingrich is...well, not ideal and probably doesn't have the force to win, but he's probably the best shot.

but really, if they want any chance in taking out obama, the republicans will need to come up with someone better than that. it's just rehashed shit right now that obama already beat in 2012. and ron paul not even included in the poll, not that he had a chance anyways.




You should count again.


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Re: the republican candidates are looking good for 2012 [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14252805 - 04/07/11 12:14 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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Pawlenty
Daniels
Somebody else, it's early.

The fucking idiots elected an empty suit running against a ghost (Bush).  Now the empty suit has utterly shit the bed but actually is running.  I am cautiously optimistic.




yeah, i was cautiously optimistic until this poll. not that it's the end all, be all. like you said, it's early. but it looks like the same old candidates and we need something new.

and luvdemshrooms, what do you mean count again? the poll is pretty straight forward. pawlenty and all of the other candidates received 5% or less of the responses.

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Re: the republican candidates are looking good for 2012 [Re: JT]
    #14253436 - 04/07/11 02:26 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Dr. Paul :gd_icon: (waits for shit storm)

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Re: the republican candidates are looking good for 2012 [Re: Rebirtha]
    #14253444 - 04/07/11 02:27 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: the republican candidates are looking good for 2012 [Re: Rebirtha] * 1
    #14253470 - 04/07/11 02:34 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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Dr. Paul :gd_icon: (waits for shit storm)




Yeah guys, way to leave out Ron Paul, you know - the guy who won the CPAC straw poll 2 years in a row!

Just because the mainstream media blacklists him doesn't mean you have to!



I really :facepalm: when people (mostly the media) leave Ron Paul out an mention the other guys.

It's not indicative of the true polls and voting population, but a bunch of brain dead CBC/WSJ readers who probably get their political opinion from  the shills who operate those news agencies.


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Re: the republican candidates are looking good for 2012 [Re: Shins]
    #14253616 - 04/07/11 02:54 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

If it's not indicative of the voting population how come every time he runs for Pres he gets clobbered in the primaries?


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Re: the republican candidates are looking good for 2012 [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14254004 - 04/07/11 03:56 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

and he has gained a lot of support over those attempts, much more each time, and is polling fairly well now by most accounts without even announcing that he is running. http://realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/republican_presidential_nomination-1452.html

Also if you have Bachmann or other libertarian/tea party leaning people in the debates, Paul all of a sudden doesn't seem that extreme. Let's not forget one of the debates is cohosted by the Tea Party Express and CNN .

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/12/17/cnn-and-tea-party-express-to-host-first-of-its-kind-tea-party-presidential-primary-debate/

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Re: the republican candidates are looking good for 2012 [Re: Rebirtha]
    #14254021 - 04/07/11 03:59 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

His appeal is strictly limited to strange political junkies who seem to have a particular need to spam polls.  Happens every time.  The real polls open (voting booths) and he sinks like a turd in a punch bowl.  Which is what I think of him.


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Re: the republican candidates are looking good for 2012 [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14254033 - 04/07/11 04:03 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I also think he was shunned out of much of the after debate talks and hidden from media attention. I think it would be harder for the media to do that this time around, but you are right he isn't the heaviest hitter as far as primaries go.

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Re: the republican candidates are looking good for 2012 [Re: Rebirtha]
    #14254134 - 04/07/11 04:23 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I keep hearing all this crap about how he doesn't get enough press.  The funny thing is I hear his name constantly and it isn't just here.  The man gets plenty of attention.


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Re: the republican candidates are looking good for 2012 [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14254575 - 04/07/11 05:46 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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If it's not indicative of the voting population how come every time he runs for Pres he gets clobbered in the primaries?




Maybe because his name is almost completely absent in the mainstream media compared to the others.

Anyways, i just hate when the media doesn't mention him at all even though he's polling pretty well.


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Re: the republican candidates are looking good for 2012 [Re: Shins]
    #14255101 - 04/07/11 07:27 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

His name is NOT almost completely absent the mainstream media.  The constant plaint is false.  He gets more mentions than either Daniels or Pawlenty.


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Re: the republican candidates are looking good for 2012 [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14255397 - 04/07/11 08:21 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

well now he does, but he was definitely shunned in '08, which is what I was saying - he is continuously gaining support.

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Re: the republican candidates are looking good for 2012 [Re: JT]
    #14257192 - 04/08/11 06:19 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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and luvdemshrooms, what do you mean count again? the poll is pretty straight forward. pawlenty and all of the other candidates received 5% or less of the responses.




There are only two (previous failures) on that list that tried for the nomination, not the three you claim.

Palin wasn't running for president.


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Re: the republican candidates are looking good for 2012 [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #14257412 - 04/08/11 08:10 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Did any of you guys see the Bill O'reilly / Donald Trump interview? It was horrible... Donald was coming up with his political positions as the questions were being asked, he doesn't know what he really believes.

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Re: the republican candidates are looking good for 2012 [Re: Rebirtha]
    #14257451 - 04/08/11 08:30 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I didn't see the show but I don't think that is correct.  Trump has been running around being pretty specific for over a month now, more than most people running for office tend to be.  I still hate him.


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Re: the republican candidates are looking good for 2012 [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14273332 - 04/11/11 04:25 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Rush Limbaugh for president!


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Re: the republican candidates are looking good for 2012 [Re: GI_Luvmoney]
    #14273701 - 04/11/11 05:21 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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Rush Limbaugh for president!



i'd take him before trump. then jump ship.

although idk how bad trump would actually be.  he does know how to make money. maybe he is the man to help us settle our deficit? sarcasm

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