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TravisTokes
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Noob question about tape!
#14250430 - 04/06/11 10:33 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I searched and saw other people answering questions similar to mine but didn't quite find what I was looking for...
Been watching pf tek and lets grow mushrooms vids over and over for the past few weeks and well to cut to the chase I just filled 10 1/2 pint jars with substrate and a centimeter of dry verm and put the lid with four holes on and put tin foil over that and put them in the pressure cooker with out taping the four holes. I was wondering if I messed up big time should I pour all the substrate back out and start over or will the steam not wet the dry layer of verm, also should I tape them after inoculation?
Edited by TravisTokes (04/06/11 10:47 PM)
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TravisTokes
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Re: Noob question about tape! [Re: TravisTokes]
#14250532 - 04/06/11 10:52 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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TravisTokes
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Re: Noob question about tape! [Re: TravisTokes]
#14250555 - 04/06/11 10:58 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Where the trusted cultivators at mannnn!
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Larrythescaryrex
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Re: Noob question about tape! [Re: TravisTokes]
#14250588 - 04/06/11 11:04 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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You forgot to read the learn some fucking patience tek.
This is important BEFORE you start.
-------------------- RIP Acidic_Sloth Sunset_Mission said: "larry the scary rex verily scary when thoroughly vexed invoke the shadows and dust, cast a hex mercifully massacring memories masterfully relocate from Ur to 8th density and become a cosmic bully mulder and scully couldn't decipher his glyphs invoke the shadows and dust, smoke infernal spliffs" April 24th 2011
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TravisTokes
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Sorry I'm excited to grow, and I asked for help not for some asshole to give me a smart ass response, but to actually learn something. Half the videos I watched they used tape and half they didn't so I figured I'd ask someone with some experience. I have been reading and watching videos on cultivation for the past month its not something I decided to do last night. So fuck you go post your put downs on someone else's thread you stuck up fuck.
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m_jacobs
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I would dump them and start over and here is why.
1. You dont dump them and you inoculate them. Because the verm layer is wet, and you didn't follow the proper procedure you have a much higher chance of contamination. So you inoculate and 2 weeks later you find out you have contamination. You just wasted 2 weeks and how ever many CC's of spore solution you used.
2. You dump them out and start over. You lose maybe 3-5 hours redoing everything, and letting the jars cool. You have a MUCH lower chance of contamination.
Like I said. If it were me I would start over.. better to lose 3-5 hours then 2 weeks. GO ahead and start the PC over, and then while your waiting read up on some more teks.
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Re: Noob question about tape! [Re: TravisTokes]
#14250655 - 04/06/11 11:17 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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atttention idiot:
No body is obligated to answer you post at all, let alone in 30 minutes or less.
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Anarchyfest
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1 centimeters ? Really? Next time go for an inch. It will create a better barrier to help keep contaminates out. Also do not tape up your holes afterwards, no reason to, I'm pretty sure the video doesn't mention doing so, Or anywhere on these forums for that matter. Let the verm do its thing. And tape may not be necessary during pcing. But i would go the extra mile and do it. Others might not.
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Re: Noob question about tape! [Re: mikehauncho]
#14250732 - 04/06/11 11:30 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Sometimes it takes people more than 15 minutes to respond.....
but to answer the question...If you don't tape the holes you can steam out some moisture, thus messing up the moisture content. You want to tape the four 1/8 inch holes with either micropore tape or masking tape, painters tape can work too (before/during sterilization).....Then using your still air box inject the syringes through the tape, 1/4 CC in each hole towards the glass.....After all jars are done, take the tape off the holes, and store them at room temp on a shelf or something, off the floor......just make sure you let the jars cool in the PC or pot you used without taking the top off before taking them out to inoculate.....
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i GrOw StUFF
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make sure you get the needle through the dry layer of verm.....The thickness of the dry verm layer should be that of the threads of the top of the jar.
-------------------- The mushrooms, which grow only during the season of torrential rains, awaken the forces of creation and produce an experience of spiritual abundance, of an astonishing, inexhaustible constitution of forms that identifies them with fertility and makes them a mediation, a means of communion, of communication between man and the natural world of which they are the metaphysical flesh.
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TravisTokes
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Re: Noob question about tape! [Re: Anarchyfest]
#14250743 - 04/06/11 11:33 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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if I scrape the dry vermiculite off the top of all 10 jars with a sterile wooden spoon can i still use this substrate (4 cup verm 2 water 2 brown rice flour) when I fill them back up? I will go for one inch this time. and thanks for your input man it probably saved me two weeks of waiting just to start over.
Edited by TravisTokes (04/06/11 11:42 PM)
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Re: Noob question about tape! [Re: TravisTokes]
#14250812 - 04/06/11 11:50 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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If I were you I would consider starting new, with a new mixture just to be safe....BRF and Verm are cheap. If you already sterilized you can always just inoculate and see the results.....If you have enough syringes you can inoculate your jars that you sterilized already AND make some new ones.....Its up to you....It wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility for your jars to still work out.....Ide say they would still work......but thats just an opinion...
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The point of starting over is to get the correct water ratio.
I agree with everything i GrOw StUFF said. I would like to add that I personally like to remove the tape afterward and use micropore tape.
Store the jars at around 25°C. They seem to grow the fastest at that temperature.
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m_jacobs
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Re: Noob question about tape! [Re: yessir]
#14252406 - 04/07/11 10:27 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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So what did you end up doing?
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TravisTokes
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Re: Noob question about tape! [Re: m_jacobs]
#14252699 - 04/07/11 11:43 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I decided the three hours wasn't worth risking waiting three weeks to find out I had contaminated the cakes or messed up their hydration so I went out and bought some masking tape and started over with new substrate just to be on the safe side.
There were a good amount of people telling me the cakes would still be fine because of the tin foil over them but hey you can never be to safe especially when it's my first time and I still have a lot to learn.
& I forgot to mention I made the dry verm layer 1 inch this time
Edited by TravisTokes (04/07/11 11:54 AM)
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i GrOw StUFF
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Re: Noob question about tape! [Re: TravisTokes]
#14263058 - 04/09/11 01:04 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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In the future just make the dry verm layer equal to that of where the threads of the jar start.....You need the needle to penetrate the dry verm layer
-------------------- The mushrooms, which grow only during the season of torrential rains, awaken the forces of creation and produce an experience of spiritual abundance, of an astonishing, inexhaustible constitution of forms that identifies them with fertility and makes them a mediation, a means of communion, of communication between man and the natural world of which they are the metaphysical flesh.
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