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Whoa Tai Qi + Alchemy + I love shroomery!!
    #14249772 - 04/06/11 08:37 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Wow!! Life is crazy been going through some crazy stuff with my family lately as I am getting older things just keep getting weirder!!

I had to move and leave behind my entire martial arts school and all of my students so I feel the absence very greatly of the joy of sharing with students and friends...

Well I am finally moved in at a new place, I moved out of state and have a new house in a much smaller town in a state where I am closer to nature. Internet is up and running so I can finally come here to show you people some love!!

So here is a book I have been reading let me know if you have read it or books like it!! I am absolutely amazed and intrigued by these subjects---

Spiritual and demonic magic: from Ficino to Campanella

I am going to start posting lots of stuff here again on topics similar to the one above and I hope some of you have interesting things to add as I just started my studies into more Western Concepts of Alchemy and Hermetics

However here is something I have more experience in --PLEASE I know his accent is heavy and this video is kind of hard to follow but I trained under him a long time ago and he knows his stuff--  Mantak Chia --

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Inner Alchemy Cosmic Healing[/url]

I have not finished reading this one yet but going to be posting some questions on it because I know there are people here who are more educated on this subject than I.

Here is a link to the whole book in .pdf format for free Corpus Hermeticum

If your interested in subjects like this or have things to add or maybe you just  want to learn more about Qi-Gong/Tai Chi and Taoist Alchemy stay tuned!!


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Re: Whoa Tai Qi + Alchemy + I love shroomery!! [Re: Forever White Belt]
    #14252349 - 04/07/11 10:14 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks for the book link. I will read it there if it's complete, or maybe even locate a copy. I read Giordano Bruno and the Hermetic Tradition a year ago when I went through this phase of enthusiasm for magick (that I abandoned when I was 19 in 1972).  Like the preface says, Giordano's book by Yates is the more widely read, but I was completely unaware of Waker's book. I did look into buying a set of Lynn Thorndike's  books, but it is prohibitively expensive for the time I would probably spend with it. It took me 20 years to find a complete set of Man, Myth, and Magic, and that was almost 20 years since I bought it (I haven't read every volume).
-MtG

BTW, these links are for you. I recommend them:
http://www.amazon.com/Taoist-Yoga-Immortality-Charles-Luk/dp/0877280673/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1302192922&sr=8-1

http://www.amazon.com/Secret-Golden-Flower-Chinese-Book/dp/0156799804/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1302192981&sr=1-1


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Re: Whoa Tai Qi + Alchemy + I love shroomery!! [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #14260295 - 04/08/11 07:21 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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BTW, these links are for you. I recommend them:
http://www.amazon.com/Taoist-Yoga-Immortality-Charles-Luk/dp/0877280673/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1302192922&sr=8-1

http://www.amazon.com/Secret-Golden-Flower-Chinese-Book/dp/0156799804/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1302192981&sr=1-1





Whoa thank you!! I can get both of those books on Amazon right now for like 8 dollars!! Cannot beat that...

Yea that is not the whole book and the only place I could find it was Amazon for 40 dollars not the kind of cash I have for books right now!! time to save again!!

Here is a great book that I found for free pdf download check it out

http://www.4shared.com/document/jcWuvApK/Frances_A_Yates_-_Giordano_Bru.html


The only person I can find recommendations for Alchemy books from are Terence Mckenna and he really only mentions a few books in his talks and lectures...

any bones you can throw me on this subject I would like more knowledge from this side of the coin-- since all of what I know is from China and India it was orally passed down to me


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Re: Whoa Tai Qi + Alchemy + I love shroomery!! [Re: Forever White Belt]
    #14260670 - 04/08/11 08:58 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

As I said, I read Yates' book a year ago. On this site, I commented on McKenna's very incomplete take on laboratory alchemy, which cannot be divorced from conceptual alchemy, as in the 'Pelican' reference. http://www.esotericonline.net/group/alchemy
If you have questions about alchemy, East or West, I may be able to direct you, as it has been a passion of mine for quite a while.



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Re: Whoa Tai Qi + Alchemy + I love shroomery!! [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #14261329 - 04/08/11 11:45 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

In my readings on western alchemy I have not come across the idea behind the alchemical vessel. Can you explain??

I mean is it necessary to have the real lab equip?

Do you need the glass equip to practice an experiment?

What is a basic experiment? I don't really understand the idea of the lab or an experiment in a literal sense...

In what I have learned of eastern alchemy my body is the vessel and all the process mental/psychic/spiritual and physical/biological/internal happen inside me with the elements either coming from inside me saliva/breath/sexual fluid or outside me air/earth/wood/iron...

The exercise has immediate benefits always but the real goal of or gold usually culminates in a synchronicity some time in the near or distant future...

Honestly there is a entire school of my art that I have not even gotten into learning yet for herbal tinctures and such... but they are usually just for injuries from practicing hard or for healing some sick body part...

not much in the way so far of talismans,potions etc...

Shanti


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Re: Whoa Tai Qi + Alchemy + I love shroomery!! [Re: Forever White Belt]
    #14262765 - 04/09/11 11:48 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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In my readings on western alchemy I have not come across the idea behind the alchemical vessel. Can you explain??

I mean is it necessary to have the real lab equip?

Do you need the glass equip to practice an experiment?

What is a basic experiment? I don't really understand the idea of the lab or an experiment in a literal sense...

In what I have learned of eastern alchemy my body is the vessel and all the process mental/psychic/spiritual and physical/biological/internal happen inside me with the elements either coming from inside me saliva/breath/sexual fluid or outside me air/earth/wood/iron...

The exercise has immediate benefits always but the real goal of or gold usually culminates in a synchronicity some time in the near or distant future...

Honestly there is a entire school of my art that I have not even gotten into learning yet for herbal tinctures and such... but they are usually just for injuries from practicing hard or for healing some sick body part...

not much in the way so far of talismans,potions etc...

Shanti




http://forum.alchemyforums.com/index.php

Good questions. I have known about alchemy since age 10 or 11 from my first book of chemistry experiments, where I learned basic lab setups (The Golden Book of Chemistry Experiments). My home lab developed as I did, until such time as I began to imbibe chemicals, and then my interest moved from externalized phenomena to internalized phenomena. BUT, those early experiments evoked a sense of awe and wonder that turns out to be essential as an aspect of the internalized Stone of the Philosophers.' The Psychedelic chemicals, in late adolescence, also served to evoke the primary religious emotions of awe and wonder. Skip several decades, and after years of academia, a doctorate supervised by a Jungian analyst, followed by 8.5 years of personal analysis and training, it suddenly dawns on me that I have passed through the darkness of the Nigredo, the whitening and purification of the Albedo (decades of ethical living, Entheogens, spiritual practices), I am in late middle age and a circle needs to be closed. The desire for completion mean that my years of psychological and spiritual alchemy needed to be joined to physical alchemy. Sulphur-Mercury-Salt, Soul-Spirit-Body, Rajas-Sattva-Tamas, we are a tripartite being, a trinity, as is the alchemical universe.

The vessel in the Indian, Tibetan and Taoist Yogas is  an astral vessel for development (the Inner Fire heats the Manipura/Lower Tan tiien, sublimating those energies to the Heart, wherein Fire becomes Light, which is in  turn sublimated to the Throat to Sound/Vibration, which rises to the Brain Center's Supernal Light, etc., etc.). Now, if you look at my drawing of an alembic (Curcurbit and Alembic Head), you can get a visual symbolism of what I'm alluding to. In Vajrayana, the ascending path of Albedo, rising from the darkness of the Root Center[s] of the Nigredo, culminate in the White Light experience at the Brain center (OM), but that experience/energy/consciousness, travels a descending path through the Throat Center to the Heart Center, in which the Diamond Body/Corpus Incorruptibilis/Immortal Fetus/Philosophers' Stone manifests. In the pic, the Heart is symbolized in the receiving balloon (flask) with the mushrooms (with an Infinity sign).

MEANWHILE, while obtaining and constructing even Spagyric (plant alchemy) experiments, every object becomes a ritual item, every Operation (Calcination, Distillatio, Sublimatio, Coagulatio, etc.) are both internal states (see Edward Edinger's book The Anatomy of the Psyche for details on the psychological alchemy), is a ritual. The experiments partake of astrology, Qabalism, and magick. Magick manifests as Synchronicities. For example, just as my interest in setting up a alchemical lab arose, a teacher with whom I work, who knew nothing of my new desire, offered me two kits of organic chemistry glassware! Later, he gave me 'hazardous' mercury thermometers. Mercury has several essential alchemical meanings. I had kept several lab items from childhood; chemicals, glassware, and a 3-pole ring stand I built in the 9th grade. I dredged the childhood materials (as well as the latent emotions in my deep psyche) and constructed a small table in my study. I became creative. I won the expensive vacuum pump on an eBay auction, and you know how competitive that can be. I met a kind soul in The Shroomery's Chemistry & Pharmacology forum - a biochemist - who directed me to the right kind of pump. Then the actual work began with a Saturnian exlixir (the process begins with Saturn and all of its astrological, and magickal associations, and moves to the Sun- the inner planets/chakras and outer planets have correspondences which are supposed to align one with more Synchronicities). The resultant elixir did elicit Saturnian-oriented dreams. This is where my Jungian training in psychspiritual alchemy came in. I'm closing the circle between chilhood and old age, the Puer and the Senex. I'm moving into the Rubedo, the reddening, the alchemical Gold, psychospiritual wholeness. My inner is reflected in the outer lab apparatus. There, the inner processes meet with outer processes. Earth, Air, Fire, Water, and Spirit form the Pentragrammatic microcosm which is me.



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Re: Whoa Tai Qi + Alchemy + I love shroomery!! [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #14265063 - 04/10/11 12:03 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I have known about alchemy since age 10 or 11 from my first book of chemistry experiments, where I learned basic lab setups (The Golden Book of Chemistry Experiments). My home lab developed as I did, until such time as I began to imbibe chemicals, and then my interest moved from externalized phenomena to internalized phenomena. BUT, those early experiments evoked a sense of awe and wonder





Your story was bringing me back in time... When I was 9 or ten I got to Toys R Us for my birthday and I bought a Home Chemistry Set... That shit was awesome!! However it didn't take me long to dispose of one experiment wrong and it culminated in an explosion of acid hail fireballs that landed on my right arm!! HaHa I remember running through my house with my arm all flaming up... I still have the scars to prove it, man I wonder what my mom did with that chem set??

I wanted to ask you about this--

Exercises

The Middle Pillar

  1. The establishment of Malkooth.
  2. Circulation of the Light
  3. The Fountain of Light
  4. Malkooth as Kether
  5. Relationship of Tiphareth to Malkooth and Kether



I was reading about it here Secret Fire: The Relationship Between Kundalini, Kabbalah, and Alchemy by Mark Stavish, M.A.    I guess I have had this article for a while in pdf. just never finished it

Any way I don't know if you have practiced this or not but I was reading into it its damn near identical to the practice we initiate people into my Qi-Gong school and it is the primary practice to test people on whether or not they are capable of really getting deep into the art.

We call it Hugging the Tree and its really basic but the stances that we use are where the all the secrets of releasing the Secret Fire are hidden... it looks like this

I even use the same time requirement for a student who really wants to become advanced in the art --- 3 or 4 years -- the parallels keep stacking up its uncanny...

I wonder if this was intentionally left out of the literature?? I mean without the stance Hugging the Tree I really do not see how this could possibly help in releasing the Secret Fire.. There are so many little postures and poses that need to be kept up so the energy/qi doesn't stagnate... I am convinced that these are the exact same practices so this confuses me a little...

I would hate to find out that other things so important to the exercise could be left out like this or maybe its just this article??

Any way if you have anything like this article please send me some love!!


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Re: Whoa Tai Qi + Alchemy + I love shroomery!! [Re: Forever White Belt]
    #14265171 - 04/10/11 12:43 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

http://www.amazon.com/Path-Alchemy-Energetic-Pathways-Enlightenment/dp/0738709034/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1302416797&sr=8-3
This is the first book I read when I got the laboratory alchemy bug. It needs rereading. I am a Western man with mere yellow-belt training in Judo and  Jujitso, and an intro course to the short Yang form of Tai Chi. The questions you ask all require a lot of time. Read Will Parfitt's Elements of the Qabalah, from B&N at $4.98. You will have spent the best $5.00 in your life on Qabalistic matters. I have read many of the classic works on Kabbalah, and this is a skeletal and PROFOUND gem of a book on the subject, divorced from its Judaic matrix.

The transcendence from Malkuth (the realm of sensory life, which we already transcended developmentally when we moved from Sensori-Motor to Preoperational tp Concrete Operational to Formal Operational Thought, where an intelligent person such as yourself surely resides intellectually), already took place. The transcendence from the Astral Triangle (Yesod-Hod-Netzach) to the Ethical Triangle (Geburah-Tiphereth-Chesed) is BEST described by Parfitt. It occurs when we Realize our essential identity as The Witness; when our primary identification with the body-personality (egoic mind and body) has been superceded by an identification with Awareness. Read Parfitt.



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Re: Whoa Tai Qi + Alchemy + I love shroomery!! [Re: Forever White Belt]
    #14267415 - 04/10/11 02:41 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Why is it that you only pretend to hug a tree?


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Re: Whoa Tai Qi + Alchemy + I love shroomery!! [Re: teknix]
    #14272781 - 04/11/11 02:44 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Why is it that you only pretend to hug a tree?




lol too many people would call us tree huggers

just for you markos

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Re: Whoa Tai Qi + Alchemy + I love shroomery!! [Re: Forever White Belt]
    #14277404 - 04/12/11 11:06 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Tree's also have energy. I like to call their energy "root" energy.

You can exchange energy with them, and give metta to it after you are done, as in showing appreciation.

The question wasn't in ridicule, only curiosity.  If you were to stumbled upon me in the woods, (being very sneaky) you may see me give a tree a hug. lol.

I do have a question I would like to ask you.

What do you call the chi that comes from the heavens?


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Re: Whoa Tai Qi + Alchemy + I love shroomery!! [Re: teknix]
    #14277633 - 04/12/11 11:58 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Tree's also have energy. I like to call their energy "root" energy.

You can exchange energy with them, and give metta to it after you are done, as in showing appreciation.

The question wasn't in ridicule, only curiosity.  If you were to stumbled upon me in the woods, (being very sneaky) you may see me give a tree a hug. lol.

I do have a question I would like to ask you.

What do you call the chi that comes from the heavens?




Good question with two answers one short and one really involved... first the short one


Prenatal (Chien/Heaven)Prenatal meaning from birth

Heavenly Chi is also a good way to put it.

If you want me to explain in depth this is called

The Union of Wood and Metal (Wood and Metal the Reversal of Yin and Yang)

For the body to be in harmony the energies of Yin and Yang and the five elements must be in equilibrium. The process to obtain this harmony has been recorded in the Taoist books written with metaphorical cosmological principals. Using the trigrams of the "I-Ching" and the jargon of Taoist technical terms , the process of developing internal work were hidden from the "uninitiated".


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Re: Whoa Tai Qi + Alchemy + I love shroomery!! [Re: Forever White Belt]
    #14277727 - 04/12/11 12:25 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Conservation, Restoration, and Transmutation are the basic principals of storing and circulating chi energy. Conservation involves stopping the loss of sexual energy. Restoration entails correct diet, curbing every kind of desire, calming the emotions , and keeping the body , mind, and spirit (Union of the Three Treasures) in the middle way avoiding extremes. Transmutation occurs in this stillness of the mind and body by regulating the breath. One hundred days is usually enough time required to transform the essence to subtle form and awaken the heat current of chi energy.(depending on age and health)

After the essence (sexual hormones and fluids) has been transformed to subtle form by the inner heat current derived from nutrition and regulated breathing, one should hold it (by force of the will) in the ocean of chi until the heat current ascends there from the Hui Yin energy center (between the genitals and anus) through the spinal column (governor channel) to Bai Hui energy center (soft spot on top of the head). With the tongue as a connector the heat energy current descends from the top of the head down the front and center (functional channel) of the body to the point of origin., Hui yin energy center. This circle of energy circulating around the torso is known as "hsiao chou tien" or the small heavenly cycle and is commonly referred to in English as the Micro-cosmic orbit.

The heat current has been described as a feeling of warm or hot water circulating up the back and down the font of the face and torso. After the first "turning of the wheel of the law" or complete circuit, the circulation will be automatic in accord with respiration, the heat ascending with inhalation and descending with exhalation. This stage is the foundation of Internal work and Chi Kung and represents the beginnings of the higher levels of Shen Kung (Spiritual Work)


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Re: Whoa Tai Qi + Alchemy + I love shroomery!! [Re: Forever White Belt]
    #14277782 - 04/12/11 12:36 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Thank you for the reply.

Rofl, that's exactly what I've been doing!

Moving the fire down to the root. After holding it to my Dan Tien.

I found the gate of neutrality, but still have some work to do in that regards. Largely due to selfish personal desires and the "comfort zone".

It's going to take some work, but to achieve the golden balance, I feel I will have to go far away from civilizattion.


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    #14277826 - 04/12/11 12:48 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Do you think those that are heavier on Yang energy are better healers and have more potent metta, than one who is balanced?

The more I strive for neutrality, the less love I feel. The fire is more prominent, as well as even existent. It seems to be just beneath metta, and when it rages it seems to weaken love.

Is it because of an inability to split focus aptly?


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    #14277966 - 04/12/11 01:15 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I feel I will have to go far away from civilizattion.





Yeah practice makes perfect and when you are forced to live in an urban setting I agree that its very distracting...

I moved from CA to AR just so I can reestablish my connection with nature... Thank god I live a short walk away from a breath taking view of mountains and my own private lake!! It makes a world of difference for my motivation (after 13+ years of practice) it always helps to have something to inspire!!

Nature is a great motivator!

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Do you think those that are heavier on Yang energy are better healers and have more potent metta, than one who is balanced?




Remember the heart and mind are synonymous in Chinese thought. The heart(Li) is the house of fire and passion and the kidneys(Kan) or lower abdomen are the house of water and the sexual essence and pleasure. By concentrating the mind (fire) in the lower dan tien (water) the water (essence) will be scorched by fire to become steam (chi energy) that will circulate in the micro-cosmic orbit reversing the positions of Heaven and Earth (Chien-Kun) to the prenatal condition. Equilibrium is the result of fire in the water no longer rising up to rouse toe passions and water(essence) no no longer flowing downward as it is steamed by the fire and rises.

I know that was long winded and I have a picture that I can show you a good correspondence but I have to find it...  Yang Energy is positive in nature reflecting *Heaven Fire Hear(mind) Life(Kun) Green Dragon Mercury Sun Left Eye Positive Yang Wood Meditation Female Spirit

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The more I strive for neutrality, the less love I feel. The fire is more prominent, as well as even existent. It seems to be just beneath metta, and when it rages it seems to weaken love.

Is it because of an inability to split focus aptly?




I am not sure what you mean here by metta??

What do you have trouble splitting your focus between?? There are steps maybe to remove or add depends I think on you!


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    #14278064 - 04/12/11 01:34 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I feel I will have to go far away from civilizattion.





Yeah practice makes perfect and when you are forced to live in an urban setting I agree that its very distracting...

I moved from CA to AR just so I can reestablish my connection with nature... Thank god I live a short walk away from a breath taking view of mountains and my own private lake!! It makes a world of difference for my motivation (after 13+ years of practice) it always helps to have something to inspire!!

Nature is a great motivator!

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Do you think those that are heavier on Yang energy are better healers and have more potent metta, than one who is balanced?




Remember the heart and mind are synonymous in Chinese thought. The heart(Li) is the house of fire and passion and the kidneys(Kan) or lower abdomen are the house of water and the sexual essence and pleasure. By concentrating the mind (fire) in the lower dan tien (water) the water (essence) will be scorched by fire to become steam (chi energy) that will circulate in the micro-cosmic orbit reversing the positions of Heaven and Earth (Chien-Kun) to the prenatal condition. Equilibrium is the result of fire in the water no longer rising up to rouse toe passions and water(essence) no no longer flowing downward as it is steamed by the fire and rises.

I know that was long winded and I have a picture that I can show you a good correspondence but I have to find it...  Yang Energy is positive in nature reflecting *Heaven Fire Hear(mind) Life(Kun) Green Dragon Mercury Sun Left Eye Positive Yang Wood Meditation Female Spirit

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The more I strive for neutrality, the less love I feel. The fire is more prominent, as well as even existent. It seems to be just beneath metta, and when it rages it seems to weaken love.

Is it because of an inability to split focus aptly?




I am not sure what you mean here by metta??

What do you have trouble splitting your focus between?? There are steps maybe to remove or add depends I think on you!




Metta is love for all, and being able to feel love for all, at anytime.

Between Love and Fire. Mind is not synonymous to love with me.

Although it is evident to distinguish nothing, lol.


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Re: Whoa Tai Qi + Alchemy + I love shroomery!! [Re: Forever White Belt]
    #14278636 - 04/12/11 03:22 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Why is it that you only pretend to hug a tree?




lol too many people would call us tree huggers

just for you markos

Huge Collection of Books in pdf.




WOW! Thanks! :smile:


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    #14278654 - 04/12/11 03:25 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Thanks for the book link. I will read it there if it's complete, or maybe even locate a copy. I read Giordano Bruno and the Hermetic Tradition a year ago when I went through this phase of enthusiasm for magick (that I abandoned when I was 19 in 1972).  Like the preface says, Giordano's book by Yates is the more widely read, but I was completely unaware of Waker's book. I did look into buying a set of Lynn Thorndike's  books, but it is prohibitively expensive for the time I would probably spend with it. It took me 20 years to find a complete set of Man, Myth, and Magic, and that was almost 20 years since I bought it (I haven't read every volume).
-MtG

BTW, these links are for you. I recommend them:
http://www.amazon.com/Taoist-Yoga-Immortality-Charles-Luk/dp/0877280673/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1302192922&sr=8-1

http://www.amazon.com/Secret-Golden-Flower-Chinese-Book/dp/0156799804/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1302192981&sr=1-1





Hmmm.  :shrug:  http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/12569204#12569204


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    #14281161 - 04/12/11 10:44 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I'm reading The Living Qabalah by Will Parfitt and it's giving me some strange feelings. :cool:


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    #14282315 - 04/13/11 05:18 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I'm reading The Living Qabalah by Will Parfitt and it's giving me some strange feelings. :cool:




Perhaps its the Realization that you're a Self that has a personality, instead of the other way around, that lends itself to strangeness, It's equivalent to saying that we'e not human beings having a spiritual experience, but rather, we're spiritual beings having a human experience. Archetypal mystical position.


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    #14287069 - 04/13/11 10:08 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Yea :thumbup:

Do you think a good connection to the energy behind the personality is the feeling of the body?


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    #14291784 - 04/14/11 06:17 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Yea :thumbup:

Do you think a good connection to the energy behind the personality is the feeling of the body?




I think the body is the physical manifestation of the personality. I think they arise together from a more rudimentary source. - the Buddhist 'dependent arisings,' karmic, samskara forms; leftover morphogenetic residues, whatever.


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    #14294397 - 04/15/11 07:25 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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leftover morphogenetic residues


:naughty:


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My body I will give to pleasures,
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any fear at all, for whenever I will—
and I will have the will, strengthened
as I’ll be with contemplation and study—
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    #14319165 - 04/19/11 06:54 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Long Arm Slow form

Great for all levels of practice!! Just remember most if not all these forms should be practiced at at least 1/2 the video taped speed... The slower you can practice these kind of forms the more inner sensitivity you will develop



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    #14319243 - 04/19/11 07:09 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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leftover morphogenetic residues


:naughty:




NOT genetic residues, morphogenetic!  :playboy:


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    #14319331 - 04/19/11 07:26 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Forever White Belt,

Thank you for another helpful and informative video. :smile:


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    #14319348 - 04/19/11 07:31 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Forever White Belt,

Thank you for another helpful and informative video. :smile:




Your very welcome!!


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    #14326318 - 04/21/11 04:17 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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love!!




This is Grandmaster Wong-Kiew Kit?

Was he / is he your teacher?


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    #14333881 - 04/22/11 03:15 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

No I never heard of him nor learned from him. I could not find one person besides him on the internet who was doing this stance correctly how I learned it so I posted his picture...

It is really a simple exercise but it takes a long time to learn how to fully relax in the skeleton. Simple but takes a short lifetime to master.


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