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Debate on marijuana reaches new high
    #14248229 - 04/06/11 03:53 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

http://www.dixiesunlink.com/news/debate-on-marijuana-reaches-new-high-1.2142289

Medical marijuana has been de-prioritized by federal substance enforcement, meaning that while it's still illegal, the FBI won't pursue cases against medical marijuana depots.

While the public is divided on the moral and ethical issues, no one can argue against the fact that medical marijuana has rapidly ascended as one of the fastest growing markets in America.

According to the MSNBC article "Medical marijuana becoming blockbuster drug" by Al Olson published on March 24, de-prioritization has opened up a $1.7 billion a year industry in 15 states. By comparison, Viagra maker Pfizer made $1.9 billion last year.

A report cited in the MSNBC article by the See Change Strategy analysis group showed reliable data on the state of the marijuana industry for the first time. Numbers show that the sales of medical pot could double in the next five years, and that's just counting the 15 states currently allowing medical marijuana use. Another 20 could join in that industry, bringing the market to $8.9 billion by 2016.

Not everyone thinks marijuana should be legal. Corey Christiansen, a sophomore marketing major from Salt Lake City, said he thinks legalizing marijuana would cause more harm than good.

"It would cause more incidents like drunk driving," Christiansen said. "I don't think alcohol, marijuana, cigarettes or anything else like that should be legal. There's got to be a line drawn somewhere."

Logan Reid, research coordinator for the Southwest Behavioral Health Center and Dixie State College adjunct instructor of sociology, weighed in on the medical effects of marijuana.

"The flawed perception is that medical marijuana should be smoked," Reid said. "The medicinal effects are real, but the THC (primary intoxicant of marijuana) which causes them could be taken with a pill."

Reid explained that studies show smoking marijuana seriously increases the chance for lung and heart disease. He also said the canabinoid receptors in the brain are most densely located by the parts of the brain related to emotion, memory, perception and coordination, along with other faculties that are harmed by long-term marijuana use.

"Research unequivocally shows that the negative impacts for using marijuana vastly outweigh the positive," Reid said.

But some students think marijuana's legalization is only a matter of time, and decriminalization will free up room for prosecution against harder drugs.

A group of freshmen gathered outside the McDonald building Thursday in a discussion about the issue. One student was asked his opinion about legalization and soon five others joined in. Some were concerned about the emergence of gang violence due to lack of business, while others argued that without weed profits, the gangs would have less purpose or power. After a long discussion, Kade Hafen, a freshman computer science major from Salina, spoke for the group majority.

"It should be legalized, though it'll probably never happen in Utah," Hafen said. "They need to regulate, you know, Breathalyze for DUIs and that kind of thing. But once I was picked up for stems, what they call ‘plant matter.' I was brought to the judge in shackles in front of people I didn't know. It was dehumanizing. That has to stop."

He didn't accept many of the stereotypes about marijuana either, arguing that marijuana wouldn't be a gateway drug if it were legal. He said because one has to see dealers for pot, it puts one into contact with harder drugs he or she wouldn't encounter in a legal market.

Jenni Kartchner, a junior criminal justice major from St. George, added her opinion as the discussion wound down.

"It could definitely benefit society through taxation," Kartchner said. "But it would have to be for medical purposes only, and it couldn't be allowed in public."

Campus Security Director Don Reid had his own viewpoint, cultivated from 30 years in drug prevention experience.

"The real argument for most young people, when you get down to it, is that if alcohol is legal, then why not marijuana, since they're both subtle highs," Reid said.

He went on to explain why he felt pot should stay forbidden.

"Marijuana is an amotivator," Don Reid said. "If you take a person who is well focused with a good attention span and get them smoking marijuana three to five times a week over a three-year period, then they'll take on an amotivational syndrome. I had friends in college who smoked marijuana. Their attention span is shot, they don't finish projects, they're completely changed individuals."

Don Reid said the dangers of alcohol and legalizing marijuana could intensify the rates of phenomena like DUIs and create a black market for higher potency, unregulated weed.

"When it really comes down to it I'm not as concerned about the life or death issues," Don Reid said. "What I'm most concerned about is that these bright, young college students won't be able to meet their full potential."


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Re: Debate on marijuana reaches new high [Re: 5-HT2A] * 2
    #14248325 - 04/06/11 04:08 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Fuck you, Corey Christiansen.


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Re: Debate on marijuana reaches new high [Re: Newfound_wonder] * 1
    #14248351 - 04/06/11 04:12 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

what a douchebag.

seriously i dont even want to start picking apart his statements


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Re: Debate on marijuana reaches new high [Re: realfuzzhead] * 1
    #14248526 - 04/06/11 04:39 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

fuck all these arguments. What about my personal freedom to put whatever I want in my body?


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Re: Debate on marijuana reaches new high [Re: The Vapor]
    #14248719 - 04/06/11 05:18 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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"It would cause more incidents like drunk driving," Christiansen said. "I don't think alcohol, marijuana, cigarettes or anything else like that should be legal. There's got to be a line drawn somewhere."



It's already been drawn. Don't like things here, pack your bags. If only people like this realized they step on others feelings and views while protecting their own. Self-serving media whores and propaganda spreaders. Education and regulation, not throwing kids in jail to become murderers or gangsters and making furniture for slave wages.
This person really irks me =P


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Re: Debate on marijuana reaches new high [Re: Darklight203]
    #14248847 - 04/06/11 05:48 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

The ignorance abounds in Utah.  Half of these college kids are likely Mormon and so are spewing words fed to them through peers and church authorities.  I bet you Corey Christiansen has never even dipped a spit o chew, ever took a sip of beer, or even tried to smoke the ganj(even without inhaling) in his whole life.


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Re: Debate on marijuana reaches new high [Re: The Vapor]
    #14248865 - 04/06/11 05:52 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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The Vapor said:
fuck all these arguments. What about my personal freedom to put whatever I want in my body?




:thaaannks:


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Re: Debate on marijuana reaches new high [Re: Sir Cypher]
    #14248997 - 04/06/11 06:13 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Reid is a moron for thinking just THC would be a great thing.  Recent research that has been on NatGeo shows indicate CBD greatly enhances the effects of marijuana.  The people who received only THC had a lot of anxiety and even some symptoms of psychosis. 

Christiansen, a marketing major, is definitely a qualified expert to make those statements.  :flowstone:  People that don't know relevant facts about a subject shouldn't be arbitrarily commenting on it, so shame on the journalist who wrote that.  It boggles my mind that so many FDA approved drugs carry black box warnings (i.e. accutane) and drastically alter mood, personality, and thought processes yet no one looks twice.  A fucking plant that has been consumed by humans for countless centuries (or millennia) eventually gets stigmatized because of politics and greed at one point in history causes so much debate. 

I don't research the issue much, but research has to have been done on medical marijuana and the statistical correlation of things like car accidents, suicide, and murder tied directly to the use of it and it alone.  You never see that in these articles.  It's a waste of breath to even comment on it, because the people against it aren't going to change their minds.  The only good thing is that it just keeps on getting legalized for medicinal purposes, decriminalized, and the federal govt. is backing off on the dispensaries.  :thumbup:  Once our generation and education improves hopefully all of the idiocy will die off with the elderly. :lol:


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Re: Debate on marijuana reaches new high [Re: 5-HT2A]
    #14249526 - 04/06/11 07:54 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

"It would cause more incidents like drunk driving," Christiansen said. "I don't think alcohol, marijuana, cigarettes or anything else like that should be legal. There's got to be a line drawn somewhere."

It's a positive sign of the times when you have to go that far to find a poster boy for your propaganda; his peers think he's batshit, even if they don't say it.


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Re: Debate on marijuana reaches new high [Re: blujay]
    #14249545 - 04/06/11 07:58 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

BTW: driving high is a different animal bro, obv... hasn't tried any drunk driving.

Which is good

Except it means he also doesn't realize an alert but stoned driver can navigate all but the most extreme circumstance with a cool head and safe response time...

I'm sure Irving Rosenfeld did it for a while, before he built up his herculean tolerance level.


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Re: Debate on marijuana reaches new high [Re: blujay] * 2
    #14249999 - 04/06/11 09:12 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Its hard to believe that marijuana is prohibited on the federal level medically , and yet thousands of potentially harmful prescriptions dont even get a second look. Why the hell is marijuana such a big deal.

We need some fucking 'critical thinking' and some 'critical problem' solving in this world. my god . this whole weed hype is probably some cover up so people focus on it , rather than other things


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Re: Debate on marijuana reaches new high [Re: blujay]
    #14250067 - 04/06/11 09:24 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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blujay said:
"It would cause more incidents like drunk driving," Christiansen said. "I don't think alcohol, marijuana, cigarettes or anything else like that should be legal. There's got to be a line drawn somewhere."

It's a positive sign of the times when you have to go that far to find a poster boy for your propaganda; his peers think he's batshit, even if they don't say it.




Yeah. The guy is obviously a Mormon.  He is reciting their belief that people shouldn't take drugs, including coffee, tea, cigarettes, cocaine, heroin, etc.  Religion is the opium of the masses.


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Re: Debate on marijuana reaches new high [Re: melfdis]
    #14251275 - 04/07/11 02:20 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Marijuana is illegal because of the money. If big pharma could patent and sell it tommorow it would be legal and everyone who ever said anything bad about it would pretend they were always in love with it. Down with America and down with the goverment that let shit like this happen.


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    #14251560 - 04/07/11 04:46 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Some people just can't seem to get over the fact that a substance does not disappear off the face of the earth when you pass a law banning it.. Or at least I'd imagine that to be what's going on in this guy's mind if he's saying alcohol should be illegal. Cause, you know.. that worked so well in the 20's


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Re: Debate on marijuana reaches new high [Re: sorahtak]
    #14252327 - 04/07/11 10:11 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I don't even know what to do when I read articles like this anymore. It just gets me depressed for the human race in general. Imagine what we could accomplish if we stopped worrying about insignificant things like this.


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