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Teen testifies he smoked pot with field trip chaperone
    #14248182 - 04/06/11 03:46 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/leadertimes/news/s_730907.html

A teenager testified yesterday that he brought marijuana on a Moose-sponsored field trip and smoked the drug with three others during the ride home, including chaperone and van driver Frederick Joseph Ulmer III, 31.

The 18-year-old Kiski Area student, who was 17 at the time of the trip, testified during Ulmer's preliminary hearing Tuesday that the defendant told them to roll a joint.

(Ulmer) said to go roll it up," the teenager testified yesterday. "We rolled it up and smoked it."

Charges against Ulmer were held for further prosecution by District Judge J. Gary DeComo Tuesday following a 45-minute hearing. Ulmer is charged with seven counts of endangering the welfare of children, four counts of corruption of minors and seven counts of reckless endangerment.

According to court documents, Ulmer, of Third Street, Leechburg, was driving a 15-passenger van with seven 17-year-olds on Nov. 20 from Selinsgrove in Snyder County to Manor Township. They were returning from an overnight trip sponsored by the Leechburg Moose as part of a scholarship program.

At the time of the trip, Ulmer was youth awareness chairman with the Leechburg Moose. The teenagers were students at Lenape Technical School and Kiski Area High School.

State police said that while on the way home one of the male teens allegedly engaged Ulmer in a conversation about marijuana and produced the drug. A few of the passengers, including Ulmer who was operating the van, allegedly smoked the joint, police said.

Trooper Brian Wolfe testified yesterday that the incident was reported to Lenape Technical School by a passenger's mother and then referred to state police. After interviewing passengers, Wolfe said he learned that marijuana was supplied by one of the teen boys who has not been charged.

"He brought it with him on the trip," Wolfe testified.

Wolfe acknowledged that investigators do not have physical evidence that there was marijuana present.

Ulmer and the students were accompanied by Heather Ann Bothell, 33, of Kennedy Avenue, East Vandergrift, who was not associated with the Leechburg Moose at the time and was not acting as a chaperone.

"At one point on the way back ... one of the teenagers had pulled out some marijuana and it was smoked," Bothell testified.

She waived her right to counsel and a preliminary hearing yesterday on four counts of corruption of minors in relation to the incident.

From the van's front passenger seat, Bothell said, she told Ulmer that she didn't think smoking marijuana was a good idea.

"I knew it was a bad idea," she testified. "I tried to tell Fred this is a bad idea."

"He basically was kind of joking about it," she testified, adding that Ulmer said the teens wouldn't tell on him.

Bothell said she did not smoke and wasn't sure who in the van did.

According to court documents and the 18-year-old teen who testified yesterday, Bothell attempted to roll the marijuana into a cigarette form.

Bothell admitted that she did not tell state police the same story she painted during yesterday's hearing.

"I didn't finish my story, I wasn't lying," she said of her conversation with investigators.

The 18-year-old Kiski student testified he brought about two grams of marijuana on the trip and he and two others smoked a joint during the group's overnight stay at a hotel. During the van ride home, the teen said, he, Ulmer and two other passengers smoked the marijuana.

Defense counsel Chuck Pascal argued that charges against his client should be dismissed because investigators cannot test any substance that may have been smoked on the van trip. Plus, he said, there is no indication that Ulmer was impaired while driving or that he put the passengers in danger.

"Even if someone is (driving under the influence) that does not make them guilty of reckless endangerment, even if they have a passenger," Pascal said. "There was no testimony in regards to any unusual driving by the defendant."

District Attorney Scott Andreassi said Pascal's arguments were more suited for pretrial motions and that prosecutors had met their burden for a preliminary hearing.


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Re: Teen testifies he smoked pot with field trip chaperone [Re: 5-HT2A]
    #14248203 - 04/06/11 03:50 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Ulmer is charged with seven counts of endangering the welfare of children, four counts of corruption of minors and seven counts of reckless endangerment.





Not saying he had the brightest idea smoking with a bunch of kids, but that's fucked how many charges are on that guys ass.  I'm also wondering if it counts as corruption if the kids are already corrupt.


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Re: Teen testifies he smoked pot with field trip chaperone [Re: Obey] * 1
    #14248797 - 04/06/11 05:38 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Smoking with kids is a retarded idea. They are stupid and you will get fucked by the law.


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    #14249003 - 04/06/11 06:13 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

i remember when i started smoking pot how hard it was to score weed. It's tough at 13. look at a 13 year old and tell me how young they look. they smoke tho. i finally got a hook, my friends dad sold and we just stole it from him...till he caught on and made us start buying it from him. he still is cool w/ me. and he still gots the fire. just still pricey. cool motherfucker tho. old biker dude.


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    #14249236 - 04/06/11 07:00 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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plustax said:
Smoking with kids is a retarded idea. They are stupid and you will get fucked by the law.




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Re: Teen testifies he smoked pot with field trip chaperone [Re: Humility]
    #14252235 - 04/07/11 09:43 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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A teenager testified yesterday that he brought marijuana on a Moose-sponsored field trip





Sucks for the dude, but he's an idiot if he honestly thought it wouldn't get leaked. Especially if some of the kids didn't smoke any. Have a little common sense for fuck's sake.


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