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De-realization + head fog from lots of marijuana and dxm usage, how long till it goes away..
    #14246297 - 04/06/11 06:48 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

A couple years ago I was messing around with dxm once a week to once every other week, high doses and low doses. I had some completely mind-blowing experiences on it, completely undescribable. We smoked tonsss of weed while peaking too. I dropped the dxm though because I noticed how all my cognitive abilities and everything deteriorated like hell and I was worried I was fucking my brain up. However, I still continued to smoke week daily, only thing is I have this terrrrible derealization I recieved from all this. Everything I do feels like I'm watching myself and I have no control over it, complete dissociation, it's very fucking scary. Thankfully my grades and everything stayed intact.

I can't enjoy anything anymore with this condition, my life was beginning to revolve around smoking because it was the only thing that brought me happiness besides love. It's not as bad as I make it sound, life goes on, I have some happiness here and there, but nothings like I used to be. I caught myself and decided I needed to stop every drug and see if I really fucked myself up and if this derealization is permanent.. I feel very strongly that this derealization is persisting because every time I smoke it brings back all that dissociation, and I don't smoke low quality whatsoever, straight white nug. I'm on day 3 clean of everything, I feel good, but this derealization is persisting. I'm taking nootropics and they seem to really help.

My question is, has anybody else experienced this? How long till I feel better? Got any advice? I would seriousely appreciate everybodies answers to get rid of this. It has actually brought me enlightment in a way, I view my stance in life from a different perspective everyday, and you learn a lot about yourself.


EDIT: Sorry, I was in a rush. Forgot to mention when I was smoking I was burning down an eighth a day. Could this cause derealization on it's own?

Edited by Jvells (04/06/11 09:45 AM)

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Re: De-realization + head fog from lots of marijuana and dxm usage, how long till it goes away.. [Re: Jvells]
    #14246390 - 04/06/11 08:01 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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EDIT: Sorry, I was in a rush. Forgot to mention when I was smoking I was burning down an eighth a day. Could this cause derealization on it's own?



That's the problem with today's media - it's not true that weed is harmless. 1/8oz a day is just inane, in my opinion. You should drop smoking completely for a few months. The dissociation may go away, as well as cannabis tolerance you've built up.

Every action you do has a consequence - and the more/the longer you do it, the more consequences you'll get. So you just have to deal with it for now. Just drop ALL psychoactive substances for some time and you should be fine.

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Re: De-realization + head fog from lots of marijuana and dxm usage, how long till it goes away.. [Re: Nocticula]
    #14246410 - 04/06/11 08:15 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Jvells said:
EDIT: Sorry, I was in a rush. Forgot to mention when I was smoking I was burning down an eighth a day. Could this cause derealization on it's own?



That's the problem with today's media - it's not true that weed is harmless. 1/8oz a day is just inane, in my opinion. You should drop smoking completely for a few months. The dissociation may go away, as well as cannabis tolerance you've built up.

Every action you do has a consequence - and the more/the longer you do it, the more consequences you'll get. So you just have to deal with it for now. Just drop ALL psychoactive substances for some time and you should be fine.



I'm pretty sure your right. I was just living in my own little world there for a little while hahaha.

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Re: De-realization + head fog from lots of marijuana and dxm usage, how long till it goes away.. [Re: Jvells]
    #14246802 - 04/06/11 10:34 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Man, dex fried my friend up pretty good the winter of 07/08.
We and some of our friends went on a binge for pretty much a month. What we didn't know was that the Delsym he was drinking (because he couldn't take Zicam) was 2 to 3 times more mg's than what other people were taking. He is already a sensitive person to drugs, and this binge culminated in him taking ~4000 to 5000mgs in a 3 day period.

After this you could tell he was way off his game.
We went back to school and everyone thought he was fucked up on something.
He basically had a blank face.
For a month.
He couldn't focus at all on school and had to go to the office to remember his locker combination.

I should also mention he was taking Strattera during this period of time.

Anyways, these days he doesn't do many drugs. He occasionally smokes weed or drinks with me. But he is definitely feeling better.

We actually recently talked about all this. He told me that he had been feeling like he was living passively since the dxm, until we tripped acid one night a little more than a year ago, and it "changed his perspective."

This was the only time he's ever done a psychadelic, but he said it helped him break out of his funk.
He won't trip anymore though haha.

Anyways, I'm kind of rambling at this point, but I tend to agree with the first responder. Cut out the weed for awhile and start exercising. Get in touch with yourself.

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Re: De-realization + head fog from lots of marijuana and dxm usage, how long till it goes away.. [Re: smokintheherb]
    #14247601 - 04/06/11 02:02 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Just don't drop the weed all at once, you'll go into a psychotic mind-state for a few days. Do it slowly.

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Re: De-realization + head fog from lots of marijuana and dxm usage, how long till it goes away.. [Re: Janamil]
    #14247876 - 04/06/11 02:52 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

listen hun im a medical pot patient and i know alot of other patients and for you to be smoking an eighth a day is way over the top please cut yourself back some every week until your not smoking at all then give it a month or two you will feel alot better. please remeber you only get one body this life so be gentle with yourself, use moderation with everything and you should be fine.


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Re: De-realization + head fog from lots of marijuana and dxm usage, how long till it goes away.. [Re: flutterbi]
    #14247968 - 04/06/11 03:10 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I agree with the general consensus; how long it takes you to get over this depends almost entirely on whether or not you stop smoking weed for a while, or at least cut back. I'd start off doing it once every three or four weeks, for a few months.

I used to do DXM every day; I never stopped smoking weed. The symptoms began to peak at 18, I didn't start becoming grounded again till 21.
When you're not stoned, there's a drastic difference between "tripping" and "sober"
when you're completely baked all the time, there's really no clear distinction. Therefor, it doesn't have any chance to go away.


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Re: De-realization + head fog from lots of marijuana and dxm usage, how long till it goes away.. [Re: LSDXM]
    #14247999 - 04/06/11 03:16 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I had a similar experience following a couple of extremely intense DXM trips and a lot of weed usage. It caused me to have an existential crisis. The crisis part went away but I remain completely obsessed with philosophy/nature of existence. Still do drugs too, lolz.


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Re: De-realization + head fog from lots of marijuana and dxm usage, how long till it goes away.. [Re: flutterbi]
    #14248003 - 04/06/11 03:17 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Depersonalization IMO becomes a persistent problem when one is unable to integrate his/her "drug experiences" into everyday life. If a person is high all the time this becomes difficult because sobriety, adversely, will seem like a chore. You have to honestly ask yourself, are you using these highs to escape certain insecurities and whatnot or are you using them to further enhance and expand your entire reality, sober or not. If the former is true then, at some point, you will get accustomed to the drug and it will stop acting as an effective "problem-number".

There are plenty of people, sure, who can smoke all the time like it's nothing but if you're not one of those people it's a good idea to back off. And even if you are one of those people it's a good idea to cut back every now and again to balance yourself out.

Using DXM a lot can have a heavy depersonalizing effect, too. Remember, it's a dissociative with effects similar to ketamine... which are often described as analgesic. These sorts of drugs can be useful in a psychonautical sense but they tend to lack the more psycho-analytical aspects of other psychedelics and, therefore, are often more easily abused for such reasons.

Either lay off the drugs for a while, try to treat them as occasional rewards for certain accomplishments, or stick to a weekend/once-a-month usage schedule.


IMO no drug should be viewed as totally harmless. Granted, some are clearly safer than others, marijuana being among the safest. But any drug, ranging from caffeine to morphine, can be abused and misused under the right circumstances.


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Re: De-realization + head fog from lots of marijuana and dxm usage, how long till it goes away.. [Re: Remix]
    #14248268 - 04/06/11 03:58 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

An eighth a day? I hope you grow because that must be a REALLY expensive habit

I smoke probably a gram a day

And I'd say your derealization problem is definitely because of the DXM, but smoking an eighth a day isn't helping you feel normal again, that's for sure.

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Re: De-realization + head fog from lots of marijuana and dxm usage, how long till it goes away.. [Re: drr]
    #14248528 - 04/06/11 04:40 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Ones high is another's sobriety.

I know alot of people are saying cut the weed, but its true. The only problem with this is weed helps with things others do not but what is most important is when quitting weed for some people it gets much worse before it gets better. ESPECIALLY when you smoke in that amount, It builds up, when you stop smoking you dont have any cannabiloids to combat THC. I would get scientific studies, ect, ect but Im honestly lazy as fuck and I dont want to argue with someone that might point out a small fault they dont see.

E.g. People stuck on small things because they cant look at a bigger picture. Lost in there own inhibitions.

Its a good known fact that parts of weed combat the psychoactive parts of weed, and it seems as when you quit weed especially in huge quantities. This psychoactive part is released and there is nothing to tame it. At least that is what I believe, but the first fact is true.

*Notice of "Insanity" to put on the bottom of my posts as instructed by some people that believe Im batshit insane, lol. Take what I type with a grain of salt.

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Re: De-realization + head fog from lots of marijuana and dxm usage, how long till it goes away.. [Re: Janamil]
    #14248619 - 04/06/11 04:57 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I had feelings of depersonalization last for about a month this past winter... I stopped taking drugs (including caffiene and alcohol) for a few weeks and started to feel pretty much back to normal.

I think most of it is anxiety.

Lay off the drugs for a while and just give it some time, it shouldn't be more than a few months till you feel human again.

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Re: De-realization + head fog from lots of marijuana and dxm usage, how long till it goes away.. [Re: NetDiver]
    #14248766 - 04/06/11 05:30 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Samurai Drifter said:
I had a similar experience following a couple of extremely intense DXM trips and a lot of weed usage. It caused me to have an existential crisis. The crisis part went away but I remain completely obsessed with philosophy/nature of existence. Still do drugs too, lolz.



DUDE FUCKING ME TOO!!!!!!!!!!! :yesnod::yesnod: So today after some time I must say I began to feel like me again. My humor was back, anxiety was gone completely, it was so amazing to remember this part of me I had kinda forgotten. That was day 3 of smoking and my derealization was like tottttally gone, just a littttle head fog, nothing much. I wanted to cry I was so happy to know I didn't fuck myself up or something.

But then some time went by, and I seriously found nothing to be fun in the world and had an extreme craving to smoke, my friend didn't help whatsoever and said to me "dude, your shits gone. your back in you, now hit the shit," and I never could agree with him more, and we smoked straight corner of the bag crystal rips. I got blown as fuck and we watched a movie, I realized how I just need to tone it down and only smoke once and awhile. My DR was very low even after the session, another 3 days and I hope it's gone. Like if it took 3 days for me to feel good again, maybe waiting another 3 days after this session and the head fog will be totally gone VS smoking ALL THE FUCKING TIME and having constant fog and DR.

I just think this ways perfect now, no DR and I mary makes me creative and happy again, WINNING.

Edited by Jvells (04/06/11 05:42 PM)

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Re: De-realization + head fog from lots of marijuana and dxm usage, how long till it goes away.. [Re: Jvells]
    #14248811 - 04/06/11 05:42 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Jvells said:
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Samurai Drifter said:
I had a similar experience following a couple of extremely intense DXM trips and a lot of weed usage. It caused me to have an existential crisis. The crisis part went away but I remain completely obsessed with philosophy/nature of existence. Still do drugs too, lolz.



DUDE FUCKING ME TOO!!!!!!!!!!! :yesnod::yesnod: So today after some time I must say I began to feel like me again. My humor was back, anxiety was gone completely, it was so amazing to remember this part of me I had kinda forgotten. That was day 3 of smoking and my derealization was like tottttally gone, just a littttle head fog, nothing much. I wanted to cry I was so happy to know I didn't fuck myself up or something.

But then some time went by, and I seriously found nothing to be fun in the world and had an extreme craving to smoke, my friend didn't help whatsoever and said to me "dude, your shits gone. your back in you, now hit the shit," and I never could agree with him more, and we smoked straight corner of the bag crystal rips. I got blown as fuck and we watched a movie, I realized how I just need to tone it down and only smoke once and awhile. My DR was very low even after the session, another 3 days and I hope it's gone. Like if it took 3 days for me to feel good again, maybe waiting another 3 days after this session and the head fog will be totally gone VS smoking ALL THE FUCKING TIME and having constant fog and DR.

I just think this ways perfect now, no DR and I mary makes me creative and happy again, WINNING.

This stone right now is like creative, and I'm not slow as shit, WINNING.




AChE inhibitors do quite abit to the CNS when done in huge amounts. Especially coupled with NMDA receptor upregulation.

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